Walking Dead Season 5 - Spoilers will be cannibalised

[mustdash]

Silverage said:

One thing I do like is how the word "zombie" has never been used in any episode. Our group obviously call them "walkers" and each other group they meet has a different name, but the Z-word is never used. Presumably this is deliberate from the writers, but why?

I watched an episode of the 'making of' (or similar) and this was explained. The word 'Zombie' is never used because in TWD World there has never been a concept of zombies prior to the outbreak of 'walkers', so people were totally unaware of anything to do with them until it actually happened.

[Bullett]

That's a rubbish reason. The living dead, undead etc have been part of stories for hundreds if not thousands of years, returning from the dead etc (zombie Jesus?) they may not have used the word zombie though but that word has been around a long time as well. Haitian it seems but I found references back to 1700's in a quick google.

[Negative Creep]

Bullett said:

That's a rubbish reason. The living dead, undead etc have been part of stories for hundreds if not thousands of years, returning from the dead etc (zombie Jesus?) they may not have used the word zombie though but that word has been around a long time as well. Haitian it seems but I found references back to 1700's in a quick google.

Standard in most zombie films though

[Bullett]

Yeah, weird isn't it?
But then in a lot of 'zombie' films they are not zombies either - normally infected. I am Legend they were more like vampires than zombies.

[Funk]

I'm really struggling to stay with TWD after a reasonable start to this season.

Finally I thought there was a 'greater mission' with a bigger story but no, it's the same-old, same-old. I don't really give a st if the characters live or die.

[Negative Creep]

Bullett said:

Yeah, weird isn't it?
But then in a lot of 'zombie' films they are not zombies either - normally infected. I am Legend they were more like vampires than zombies.

I guess it's to increase their threat since the protagonists initially don't know what's going on or how to stop it, but that does of course mean the audience is waiting for them to catch up. I don't count the 28 Days/Weeks ones as zombies since they were still alive and could be killed by normal means (still great films though). Long time since I've seen Legend but wasn't it an airborne virus?

[Squawk1066]

Funk said:

I'm really struggling to stay with TWD after a reasonable start to this season.

Finally I thought there was a 'greater mission' with a bigger story but no, it's the same-old, same-old. I don't really give a st if the characters live or die.

I feel the same.

Wasn't mad scientist bloke introduced along with the other 2 as soldiers, whose only task was to make sure he got to Washington alive?

[Halb]

Modern film 'zombies' are a creation of George A Romero and fairly recent. Zombies before his breakthrough film, Night of the Living Dead were quite different, and nominally connected to religion/magic.

[Funk]

Yes, except now he's been shown to be a Walter Mitty character who was lying to get protection.

It would have been a better story to actually have followed that potential line - that they do have someone who can cure the zombie infection and the story behind how they go about fixing the world. To not have that as an option now kinda removes the focus.

[Negative Creep]

Halb said:

Modern film 'zombies' are a creation of George A Romero and fairly recent. Zombies before his breakthrough film, Night of the Living Dead were quite different, and nominally connected to religion/magic.

Also I believe it was the first film to feature a black man as the hero, with the woman you assume will be the lead spending most of it catatonic with shock and the wholesome young couple getting killed halfway though. Then there's the ending and the reason he was shot rather open to interpretation. Considering the racial tensions at the time, it's easy to forget it was groundbreaking in more was that just introducing us to modern zombie

[Squawk1066]

Funk said:

Yes, except now he's been shown to be a Walter Mitty character who was lying to get protection.

It would have been a better story to actually have followed that potential line - that they do have someone who can cure the zombie infection and the story behind how they go about fixing the world. To not have that as an option now kinda removes the focus.

Are we to assume they are just ignoring the original introduction of those characters for the sake of this new story arc?

[Silverage]

So they live in a world with no concept of zombies at all in fiction or anything and then when it all goes wrong, what do they get? Zombies! What are the chances?

[Halb]

Squawk1066 said:

Are we to assume they are just ignoring the original introduction of those characters for the sake of this new story arc?

Ignoring what?

[thetapeworm]

Funk said:

Yes, except now he's been shown to be a Walter Mitty character who was lying to get protection.

It would have been a better story to actually have followed that potential line - that they do have someone who can cure the zombie infection and the story behind how they go about fixing the world. To not have that as an option now kinda removes the focus.

They probably decided to keep that story for season 12.

[Squawk1066]

Halb said:

Squawk1066 said:

Are we to assume they are just ignoring the original introduction of those characters for the sake of this new story arc?

Ignoring what?

They originally introduced scientist bloke and his 2 army companions as being on a mission to get him to Washington. Giving the impression he was being protected by soldiers. Now that's suddenly not the case, or have I missed something?

[Pesty]

Squawk1066 said:

They originally introduced scientist bloke and his 2 army companions as being on a mission to get him to Washington. Giving the impression he was being protected by soldiers. Now that's suddenly not the case, or have I missed something?

I don't think anybody said they were actual soldiers. He may have acted like he used to be one. And gave you that impression?

[Hugo a Gogo]

Squawk1066 said:

Halb said:

Squawk1066 said:

Are we to assume they are just ignoring the original introduction of those characters for the sake of this new story arc?

Ignoring what?

They originally introduced scientist bloke and his 2 army companions as being on a mission to get him to Washington. Giving the impression he was being protected by soldiers. Now that's suddenly not the case, or have I missed something?

he was with Abraham and Rosita, as far as we know she isn't army, she just had a khaki baseball cap on, and they had an army truck. Abraham was in the army though, thatt's where he got the truck

Eugene met Abraham as we saw in the flashback last week, and told him the lie about needing to get to Washington

[joema]

Save the mission stuff for Hollywood.

We are watching the journies of normal people. Curing zombies or anything of the like seems a typical Hollywood strory line and a tad predictable. For normal people...

[Funk]

joema said:

Save the mission stuff for Hollywood.

We are watching the journies of normal people. Curing zombies or anything of the like seems a typical Hollywood strory line and a tad predictable. For normal people...

Well then we may as well pack up and skip to the part where they're all dead.

[Calza]

Does anyone else 'Like' TWD on facebook?

Two things that really really bug me:

1. All the AMC links and vids etc are blocked in the Uk. Poor show.
2. They post spoilers! I found out that bob had died before it had aired in the UK. Surely that's not gravy?