"Topical" Comedy on Radio 4
Discussion
marcosgt said:
It's ok, for balance he goes to Mecca with Donald Trump next week... 
Whilst those of right wing leaning froth about all the 'lefties' on the Beeb's comedy shows, can any of you propose a FUNNY right winger? Ian Hislop seems to just be anti-establishment, whilst I'll concede Clarkson is both funny and right wing, but can you think of many others?
I'm all for balance, and surely with all that expensive education some of them must be clever enough to be funny, but it seems being right wing and funny is pretty much impossible... Is it just the case that the funny who are right-wing realise that overtly right-wing comedy often looks like bullying or arrogance?
I suspect it's more to do with the kind of person that goes in to being a comedian.Whilst those of right wing leaning froth about all the 'lefties' on the Beeb's comedy shows, can any of you propose a FUNNY right winger? Ian Hislop seems to just be anti-establishment, whilst I'll concede Clarkson is both funny and right wing, but can you think of many others?
I'm all for balance, and surely with all that expensive education some of them must be clever enough to be funny, but it seems being right wing and funny is pretty much impossible... Is it just the case that the funny who are right-wing realise that overtly right-wing comedy often looks like bullying or arrogance?
marcosgt said:
The Don of Croy said:
Weird times. And then I see a trailer for 'Bear Grylls walks Alaska with Obama' - we're clearly through the looking glass now...
It's ok, for balance he goes to Mecca with Donald Trump next week... Whilst those of right wing leaning froth about all the 'lefties' on the Beeb's comedy shows, can any of you propose a FUNNY right winger? Ian Hislop seems to just be anti-establishment, whilst I'll concede Clarkson is both funny and right wing, but can you think of many others?
I'm all for balance, and surely with all that expensive education some of them must be clever enough to be funny, but it seems being right wing and funny is pretty much impossible... Is it just the case that the funny who are right-wing realise that overtly right-wing comedy often looks like bullying or arrogance?
M.
Plenty of right wing people can be funny - Rod Liddle, James Delingpole, BJ and JC among them. They all can write amusingly but there is a huge difference between writing and (for want of a better description ) stand up . Left wing people just are better at it . Right wing stand up? Well, there is always Jim Davidson.
Anyway - who bloody cares - if it makes me laugh it makes me laugh and giggling at something Stephen Fry says isn't going to alter anybody but an idiot's politics is it? I am middle -to slightly left but read the Spectator every week because it is a cracking read and enormously entertaining . I won't be voting tory any time soon though..
Anyway - who bloody cares - if it makes me laugh it makes me laugh and giggling at something Stephen Fry says isn't going to alter anybody but an idiot's politics is it? I am middle -to slightly left but read the Spectator every week because it is a cracking read and enormously entertaining . I won't be voting tory any time soon though..
coppice said:
Plenty of right wing people can be funny - Rod Liddle, James Delingpole, BJ and JC among them. They all can write amusingly but there is a huge difference between writing and (for want of a better description ) stand up . Left wing people just are better at it . Right wing stand up? Well, there is always Jim Davidson.
I didn't want to mention the elephant(s) in the room! 
You are right, of course, not sure people laugh with Boris, though and Rees Mogg was tedious last time he was in HIGNFY, almost as if under orders to not be funny this time... (he was the time before!).coppice said:
Anyway - who bloody cares - if it makes me laugh it makes me laugh and giggling at something Stephen Fry says isn't going to alter anybody but an idiot's politics is it? I am middle -to slightly left but read the Spectator every week because it is a cracking read and enormously entertaining . I won't be voting tory any time soon though..
I agree, but every few weeks we get another diatribe about 'lefties ruining comedy', but as you say there's not really any right wing stand ups (although grandstanding, from any wing, gets boring pretty quickly), so maybe the answer for those who do complain is to watch BBC Parliament instead (or buy the Jim Davidson Big-Bigot-Boxset or for real right-wing extremist comedy, watch one of the Republican talk-offs with wacky bigot-retard Donald Trump, now that is comedy gold, except that the Americans might actually give him power!!!!) M
Edited by marcosgt on Wednesday 16th December 15:58
thismonkeyhere said:
MC Bodge said:
Did anybody else have the misfortune of hearing that comedy with Maureen Lipman that was set in Hull a few weeks ago?
Truly dire. A bit like that Citizen Khan, but set on the East coast and worse.
Truly dire. A bit like that Citizen Khan, but set on the East coast and worse.
Heard ten minutes of it. Couldn't cope with any more than that. s
te.Two points - Maureen Lipman is from Hull (pronounced Herl by lercals ) so the accent is correct.
- Hull is not on the East Coast any more than London is. It sits on the river Humber, some miles away from the North Sea.
The programme was indeed beyond belief dire
- Hull is not on the East Coast any more than London is. It sits on the river Humber, some miles away from the North Sea.
The programme was indeed beyond belief dire
Edited by coppice on Friday 18th December 10:35
coppice said:
Two points - Maureen Lipman is from Hull so the accent is correct.
- Hull is not on the East Coast anymore than London is. It sits on the river Humber some mile away from the North Sea.
The programme was indeed beyond belief dire
Don't like facts get in the way of a good rant! - Hull is not on the East Coast anymore than London is. It sits on the river Humber some mile away from the North Sea.
The programme was indeed beyond belief dire
I didn't hear this, which is probably just as well as I remember Mauren Lipman as being very funny
M.
marcosgt said:
coppice said:
Two points - Maureen Lipman is from Hull so the accent is correct.
- Hull is not on the East Coast anymore than London is. It sits on the river Humber some mile away from the North Sea.
The programme was indeed beyond belief dire
Don't like facts get in the way of a good rant! - Hull is not on the East Coast anymore than London is. It sits on the river Humber some mile away from the North Sea.
The programme was indeed beyond belief dire
I didn't hear this, which is probably just as well as I remember Mauren Lipman as being very funny
M.
Europa1 said:
Much of the new "comedy" in the 6:30pm slot is dire and relies on regional accents/reedy voices. Equally appalling was "Gloomsbury" which boasted a pretty stellar cast, but was the biggest pile of steaming, self indulgent, "aren't-we-all-incredibly-intellectually-witty" crap I have had the misfortune to hear in a long while. I stuck a whole half hour out of grim fascination and determination, but didn't even smile, far less laaugh.
I heard some of that too and did wonder in what way it could be considered "comedy".thismonkeyhere said:
Europa1 said:
Equally appalling was "Gloomsbury"
'Is' not 'was' - still on every week I think.1830 R4 Comedy is part of my commuting entertainment/survival plan, but I groan out loud, swear, and go back to tunes when I find out it's Gloomsbury. Rubbish.
Is Gloomsbury the'Sackville-West' thing? If so, yes, that was an all time low...
Seems it was although I wouldn't recognise it from the Beeb's description
"...a riotous comedy about the Bloomsbury Group."
I have to say, though, 'stellar' though the cast may be, they've all had some stinkers (Sessions, especially, seems to be very up himself most of the time), so putting them together always had a 50-50 chance of producing a major effluent outage!
M
Seems it was although I wouldn't recognise it from the Beeb's description
"...a riotous comedy about the Bloomsbury Group."
I have to say, though, 'stellar' though the cast may be, they've all had some stinkers (Sessions, especially, seems to be very up himself most of the time), so putting them together always had a 50-50 chance of producing a major effluent outage!
M
Edited by marcosgt on Friday 18th December 17:28
The last episode of the Now Show was absolutely dire.
The laughter actually sounds canned, as the show now should be.
Why no piss take of the self-confessed lesbian clout-botherer who wants the statue of Cecil Rhodes in Oriel college Oxford removed because....
....."There's a violence to having to walk past the statue every day on the way to your lectures, there's a violence to having to sit with paintings of former slave holders whilst writing your exams."
Oh, wait........
The laughter actually sounds canned, as the show now should be.
Why no piss take of the self-confessed lesbian clout-botherer who wants the statue of Cecil Rhodes in Oriel college Oxford removed because....
....."There's a violence to having to walk past the statue every day on the way to your lectures, there's a violence to having to sit with paintings of former slave holders whilst writing your exams."
Oh, wait........
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