GHOSTBUSTERS 3
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My Eldest asked me to get this, I found myself thinking - ah, it can't be that bad, people who loved the first ones just objected to the female cast. I was wrong, very, very wrong.
It's just a really bad film, the characters are lazy, the story is a horrible mix of copying the original whilst trying to be the opposite, the 'homages' to the original are obvious and clunky. It's poorly acted the cast just doesn't gel. It's not funny and it's not creepy.
It's one of the most annoying reboots I've ever seen, the original was smart and original, it was funny, the characters were great and you rooted for them, not in this one.
It's just a really bad film, the characters are lazy, the story is a horrible mix of copying the original whilst trying to be the opposite, the 'homages' to the original are obvious and clunky. It's poorly acted the cast just doesn't gel. It's not funny and it's not creepy.
It's one of the most annoying reboots I've ever seen, the original was smart and original, it was funny, the characters were great and you rooted for them, not in this one.
9 1/2 minutes of Kate McKinnon ad-libbing https://youtu.be/v8hfSKLU9vs
So I went ahead and watched it, albeit not in a way that would give the producers any money. Thought I should after all this, since I may be proven wrong and enjoy it?
I wasn't wrong. A few thoughts
- Every man in the film is a dick or an idiot. I know I'm not the first person to make this observation, but once you see it you can't unsee it
- No one acts in a realistic manner, from small things like a subway worker walking along the tracks to that whole crowd at the concert celebrating instead of running in panic. Or the bit with the Police after Bill Murray's cameo (boy you could see he did not want to be there). Shouldn't you be arresting them?
- No sense of peril or tension. No one ever seems scared or amazed by what they're seeing. Like the scene with the mannequin coming to life that could have been creepy were it not for the fact that Patty just walked around talk to herself for no reason.
- Most of it seems improved, and not in a good way. Anything with the potential to be funny gets ruined by being carried on too long, repeated or over explained. Whole scenes just drag on too long, go nowhere or suddenly cut away.
- I've no idea what Kate McKinnon was going for, but she was incredibly annoying and acted in a way no human would. The writers seem to think the audience are idiots so will take someone throwing out a bunch of random scientific terms as intelligence
- Speaking of which, Chris Hemsworth was so stupid he looked like he had a mental illness. Although I will say he gave me the one laugh I had in this film when saying he took the lenses out of his glasses because they kept getting dirty.
- Awful villain who they give up on halfway though the film and is a very obvious dig at the nerd fanboy stereotype
- What the hell was the scene with the military about? It looks like it's going to turn into some sort of bizzare dance number, then just stops
It's bad folks. Not funny bad in a Battlefield Earth way, not offensively bad, just plain old bad.
3/10
I wasn't wrong. A few thoughts
- Every man in the film is a dick or an idiot. I know I'm not the first person to make this observation, but once you see it you can't unsee it
- No one acts in a realistic manner, from small things like a subway worker walking along the tracks to that whole crowd at the concert celebrating instead of running in panic. Or the bit with the Police after Bill Murray's cameo (boy you could see he did not want to be there). Shouldn't you be arresting them?
- No sense of peril or tension. No one ever seems scared or amazed by what they're seeing. Like the scene with the mannequin coming to life that could have been creepy were it not for the fact that Patty just walked around talk to herself for no reason.
- Most of it seems improved, and not in a good way. Anything with the potential to be funny gets ruined by being carried on too long, repeated or over explained. Whole scenes just drag on too long, go nowhere or suddenly cut away.
- I've no idea what Kate McKinnon was going for, but she was incredibly annoying and acted in a way no human would. The writers seem to think the audience are idiots so will take someone throwing out a bunch of random scientific terms as intelligence
- Speaking of which, Chris Hemsworth was so stupid he looked like he had a mental illness. Although I will say he gave me the one laugh I had in this film when saying he took the lenses out of his glasses because they kept getting dirty.
- Awful villain who they give up on halfway though the film and is a very obvious dig at the nerd fanboy stereotype
- What the hell was the scene with the military about? It looks like it's going to turn into some sort of bizzare dance number, then just stops
It's bad folks. Not funny bad in a Battlefield Earth way, not offensively bad, just plain old bad.
3/10
'sigh' - My GF made me watch this after I made her watch Westworld ("you just want to see the naked girls, perv!")- It's bad, really, really bad.
The dance number - This isn't the Mask where it works and is actually funny, WTF are you thinking when you came up with this idea?
Everyone tries to be the "funny" one so no-one is taken seriously.
The cameos, oh dear god the cameos - those poor suffering guys, it was like watching something horrible but you can't turn away, like a orphanage being hit by a meteor whilst in the middle of an earthquake when a plane shipping 1000's of poisonous snakes crashes into it releasing the angry, fire covered snakes.
Every Man is a moron/buffoon/incompetent.
The neon coloured ghosts are bright and stupid instead of scary.
No-one reacts like an actual human being would in the entire film.
Claiming that's it's forging a new story whilst really trying to cram in all the best bits of the original is awful to see.
The script is dire
The acting is dire
The direction is for the most part dire
On the positive side I really like physical humour so the slap-stick got a few laughs, I think it happened twice.
The dance number - This isn't the Mask where it works and is actually funny, WTF are you thinking when you came up with this idea?
Everyone tries to be the "funny" one so no-one is taken seriously.
The cameos, oh dear god the cameos - those poor suffering guys, it was like watching something horrible but you can't turn away, like a orphanage being hit by a meteor whilst in the middle of an earthquake when a plane shipping 1000's of poisonous snakes crashes into it releasing the angry, fire covered snakes.
Every Man is a moron/buffoon/incompetent.
The neon coloured ghosts are bright and stupid instead of scary.
No-one reacts like an actual human being would in the entire film.
Claiming that's it's forging a new story whilst really trying to cram in all the best bits of the original is awful to see.
The script is dire
The acting is dire
The direction is for the most part dire
On the positive side I really like physical humour so the slap-stick got a few laughs, I think it happened twice.
Finally saw it last night after my wife bought me the GB blu-ray box set that included it - and I thought "what the hell, give it a chance".
It really is as bad as some people said. A couple of minor chuckles (mostly from Hemsworth) - but that's about it. Some of the dialog had me cringing and there was no chemistry at all between the characters. The jokes were entirely predictable, with men (as expected) being the butt of many of them. The rest of the gags seemed to consist of stupid gross out humour, over the top shouty hysterics or forced awkward moments - very much in the spirit of what was predicted in post #5 of this thread.
My wife fell asleep 10 minutes before the end and we went to bed shortly after watching it. She turned to me as I was switching the lights off and said "that was a s
t film".
Says it all really.
It really is as bad as some people said. A couple of minor chuckles (mostly from Hemsworth) - but that's about it. Some of the dialog had me cringing and there was no chemistry at all between the characters. The jokes were entirely predictable, with men (as expected) being the butt of many of them. The rest of the gags seemed to consist of stupid gross out humour, over the top shouty hysterics or forced awkward moments - very much in the spirit of what was predicted in post #5 of this thread.
My wife fell asleep 10 minutes before the end and we went to bed shortly after watching it. She turned to me as I was switching the lights off and said "that was a s
t film".Says it all really.
Moonhawk said:
Finally saw it last night after my wife bought me the GB blu-ray box set that included it - and I thought "what the hell, give it a chance".
It really is as bad as some people said. A couple of minor chuckles (mostly from Hemsworth) - but that's about it. Some of the dialog had me cringing and there was no chemistry at all between the characters. The jokes were entirely predictable, with men (as expected) being the butt of many of them. The rest of the gags seemed to consist of stupid gross out humour, over the top shouty hysterics or forced awkward moments - very much in the spirit of what was predicted in post #5 of this thread.
My wife fell asleep 10 minutes before the end and we went to bed shortly after watching it. She turned to me as I was switching the lights off and said "that was a st film".
Says it all really.
and yet the New Statesmen's Film critic rated it one of the ten best films of the year.....It really is as bad as some people said. A couple of minor chuckles (mostly from Hemsworth) - but that's about it. Some of the dialog had me cringing and there was no chemistry at all between the characters. The jokes were entirely predictable, with men (as expected) being the butt of many of them. The rest of the gags seemed to consist of stupid gross out humour, over the top shouty hysterics or forced awkward moments - very much in the spirit of what was predicted in post #5 of this thread.
My wife fell asleep 10 minutes before the end and we went to bed shortly after watching it. She turned to me as I was switching the lights off and said "that was a s
t film".Says it all really.
I wonder why.....
JagLover said:
and yet the New Statesmen's Film critic rated it one of the ten best films of the year.....
I wonder why.....
Haha - just read their reviewI wonder why.....
"this Ghostbusters improves in every way on the original"
There was nothing in this movie that improved on the original.
With the exception of the ghosts in the mirrors (which looked really cool) - even the SFX looked 'off'.
They also state in the review
"For his new take on a film regarded erroneously in some quarters as a comedy classic"
Erm - Ghostbusters is nothing if not a comedy classic. It's the 34th highest grossing movie of all time (adjusted for inflation) and to this day remains the highest grossing comedy of all time (again inflation adjusted).
JagLover said:
and yet the New Statesmen's Film critic rated it one of the ten best films of the year.....
I wonder why.....
Some years ago I listened to a talk on the radio with someone from one of the film magazines (I think it may have been Empire), and the subject of gender and culture came up. I cannot remember the exact words the guy from the magazine said, but it was something like, 'If the film challenges gender and/or cultural diversity, the film will automatically get one or two extra stars, irrespective of all other merits or if the film is actually crap'. I am paraphrasing, but that was the gist of it.I wonder why.....
chris watton said:
Some years ago I listened to a talk on the radio with someone from one of the film magazines (I think it may have been Empire), and the subject of gender and culture came up. I cannot remember the exact words the guy from the magazine said, but it was something like, 'If the film challenges gender and/or cultural diversity, the film will automatically get one or two extra stars, irrespective of all other merits or if the film is actually crap'. I am paraphrasing, but that was the gist of it.
I don't think it did that either. Arbitrarily swapping the gender of a few characters is not challenging gender or cultural diversity.- The bosses of the two colleges were men - check.
- The 'token' black female did a menial job and was the only non scientist - check.
- Gender stereotype of women being hysterical - check.
- Woman fawning over an attractive guy - check.
- Menial job takeaway delivery guy was ethnic minority - check.
- Bad guy is a geeky, socially awkward male - check.
- Woman licking a phallic symbol - check.
Throw in some dance moves....afterall women like that sort of thing.....because, well, they're women....just look how popular Mama Mia was.......right?
Edited by Moonhawk on Saturday 31st December 10:21
Moonhawk said:
"this Ghostbusters improves in every way on the original"
There was nothing in this movie that improved on the original.
Erm - Ghostbusters is nothing if not a comedy classic. It's the 34th highest grossing movie of all time (adjusted for inflation) and to this day remains the highest grossing comedy of all time (again inflation adjusted).
Christ, that's laughable...I wanna read it now..but I don't wanna read crap.There was nothing in this movie that improved on the original.
Erm - Ghostbusters is nothing if not a comedy classic. It's the 34th highest grossing movie of all time (adjusted for inflation) and to this day remains the highest grossing comedy of all time (again inflation adjusted).
What is amusing, is how Ghostbusters destroys the s
tty revamp, even without inflation. 
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&...
Ghostbusters $229,242,989 adjusted $586,218,600
Ghostbusters II $112,494,738 adjusted $243,974,800
s
t Ghostbusters (2016)$128,350,574 adjusted $129,858,800Now that's funny
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