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joema said:
Who'd want to be tank crew? Not me.
Nor me. Fish in a literal barrel or what?I'd give that a solid 7.5/10 for Sunday afternoon entertainment value.
Reminded me of Peckinpah's Cross of Iron in many ways, especially the end credits.
Liked the closing shot of used brass.
Cheers,
Whatty
Asterix said:
On top of the tank? Funny - it was all live ammo. Still had the projectiles still in. Was a real rookie error that I spotted immediately.
Good catch. By that stage I was too busy figuring out why more popcorn always seems to end up on the floor rather than in me. Startled by enemy fire perhaps?My mate, Arms and Automotive Militaria Dealer reckoned the Sherman's tow cables looked a bit too 1950's.
TOV!E said:
Sorry disagree, Hollywood s
t, the ending was laughable , ( you have just shoot all my mates so I will let you go )
The more I reflect on this film the more the ending really annoyed me. Ruined what could've been one of the finest ww2 films made IMO. 300 SS troops couldn't take out a disabled Sherman tank? Do me a favour. t, the ending was laughable , ( you have just shoot all my mates so I will let you go )I suspect it couldn't have been made if it didn't have the american heroic bulls
t that they like to lap up, Massive shame. Still very much enjoyed it mind, but it did ruin the film. Watched this last night. What a thoroughly absorbing movie. One of the best cinematic experiences I've ever had. I urge everyone to go and see it, we have to show support by going to the cinema in the hope they make more like this.
Ok the ending was a little contrived and the SS soldier who looked under the tank was a bit weak but to me it said that the SS soldier was just like the young American earlier on. The sense of paranoia and claustrophobia was immense. The gory nature was welcomed as I can imagine that was exactly like it was.
9/10 for me.
Ok the ending was a little contrived and the SS soldier who looked under the tank was a bit weak but to me it said that the SS soldier was just like the young American earlier on. The sense of paranoia and claustrophobia was immense. The gory nature was welcomed as I can imagine that was exactly like it was.
9/10 for me.
A solid 9/10 from me. Watched it yesterday and came out the cinema blown away. Ok maybe the end wasn't factually perfect but it's a Hollywood blockbuster at the end of the day. Thought it was gritty and absorbing and thought Brad Pitt was fantastic. The entire cast was superb. One of the better Hollywood offerings I've seen in a long while, even my missus loved it, even though she watched most of it through her hands or through streaming tears and came out with her nerves jangling. Thoroughly enjoyed it!
spikey78 said:
Went to see it this afternoon, thought it was a bit rubbish. Just didn't 'believe' the characters-typical stereotypical all Ameercan gung-ho douchebags.. Action scenes were pretty good, script and story pretty dumb Hollywood nonsense
For me the characters were the best bit of the film. All of them very believable especially Logan and Labeouf.spikey78 said:
Went to see it this afternoon, thought it was a bit rubbish. Just didn't 'believe' the characters-typical stereotypical all Ameercan gung-ho douchebags.. Action scenes were pretty good, script and story pretty dumb Hollywood nonsense
You must have watched a completely different film to me. I found it a pretty good fictional action movie, however the futility of the whole war thing was portrayed really well.Sadly they spoiled it a bit with the very final final scene
If anyone thinks the main character was a little over the top, they really did make em like that
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lafayette_G._Pool
I went with my ex-Royal Artillery Dad in his 70s and my uncle in his late 70s and both thoroughly enjoyed it for what it was.
If you're looking for a WW2 documentary with a tedious slow moving story , you'll be disappointed.
Elroy Blue said:
I've just seen it and was really disappointed.
I found the 'going around in circles' with the Tiger plain ludicrous.
What was ludicrous about it? They had nowhere to hide that they could have reached before the Tiger would have shot them, their strongest armour was on the front of the tank so they need to keep that pointing at the enemy gun. IIRC, after the first tank got hit, there was at least one other tank with Fury charging the Tiger. Once they've closed the gap, the sides and rear are much thinner armour than the front, and by shooting the engine they get a mobility kill and will almost certainly stop the turret traverse (hand controls remain but they would be to slow to defend the Tiger if the engine went), completely disabling the tank. The American tanks were never going to win a stand and bang fight with the Tiger, it would have shredded them one by one and they'd have been very lucky to penetrate the frontal armour, so they really had two options - sit still and die, or charge and have at least some chance of winning.I found the 'going around in circles' with the Tiger plain ludicrous.
Ok, so the Tiger could have traversed it's hull and turret together and would have probably been able to keep it's gun on Fury, without exposing it's weaker sides and rear, but the crew likely panicked, as hardened German tank crews were in short supply by the end of the war, so there were some pretty green men getting into the vaunted Tigers.
The most fearsome battlefield weapon of WWII, the Jagdtiger, was let down in combat by inexperienced crews (and the fact they broke down so much they often couldn't get to the fight). German tank commander Otto Carius wrote accounts of two situations when Jagdtigers were in practically un-losable situations and ended up either refusing to engage the enemy to pick off easy kills, or getting their own vehicles destroyed by panicking and trying to retreat, turning their tanks away from the enemy and taking shots through their rear armour, when the enemy would never have been able to penetrate them frontally. These were monsters with 128mm guns that could destroy any target on the WWII battlefield, at ranges where the enemy would never be able to penetrate the incredible front armour of the Jagdtigers, and yet on the rare occasion they were in a position to fight, the inexperience of the crews hobbled them. With that in mind, a Tiger crew not traversing their hull and allowing a Sherman to flank them seems entirely plausible.
So what seems silly about it?
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