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Hugo a Gogo said:
Welshbeef said:
Gripping quality drama from the BBC.
This ,strictly, horizon are worth the licence fee alone. No wonder other countries are in awe of the BBC.
get outThis ,strictly, horizon are worth the licence fee alone. No wonder other countries are in awe of the BBC.
Also what else is on Sat night to compete at the same time... Um zilch plus its all for Children in Need
I don't agree that he should have judged him and elected to discard the evidence.
I'm pretty sure that if that were to happen in real life with the impossible to imagine stress and then discovering what appears to be the killer with the child porn and him laughing at how lovely your child was -- Id imagine most would react in a burst of violence (though not covering it up).
I'm pretty sure that if that were to happen in real life with the impossible to imagine stress and then discovering what appears to be the killer with the child porn and him laughing at how lovely your child was -- Id imagine most would react in a burst of violence (though not covering it up).
Much as I'm enjoying this, there was a gaping chasm in the plot last night!
top detective skills from Baptiste for noticing the disturbed concrete years later. However, what about French Plod forensics going over Garrett's boat at the time, picking up Tony's DNA/fingerprints/clothing fibres? The thing would be riddled with it - there's no way Tony had time to do a proper clean-up and get back to collect Emily, even if he was late
top detective skills from Baptiste for noticing the disturbed concrete years later. However, what about French Plod forensics going over Garrett's boat at the time, picking up Tony's DNA/fingerprints/clothing fibres? The thing would be riddled with it - there's no way Tony had time to do a proper clean-up and get back to collect Emily, even if he was late
PurpleTurtle said:
Much as I'm enjoying this, there was a gaping chasm in the plot last night!
top detective skills from Baptiste for noticing the disturbed concrete years later. However, what about French Plod forensics going over Garrett's boat at the time, picking up Tony's DNA/fingerprints/clothing fibres? The thing would be riddled with it - there's no way Tony had time to do a proper clean-up and get back to collect Emily, even if he was late
Agreed. And the cover up at Mayoral level - it's many years since the Belgian paedo trial (Marc DuTroux ? sic) and it seems utterly unlikely anywhere would attempt to sweep something like this under the carpet. Especially when so many cops would have access to the evidence etc etc.top detective skills from Baptiste for noticing the disturbed concrete years later. However, what about French Plod forensics going over Garrett's boat at the time, picking up Tony's DNA/fingerprints/clothing fibres? The thing would be riddled with it - there's no way Tony had time to do a proper clean-up and get back to collect Emily, even if he was late
Unless corruption really is so endemic.
I wonder if the central locking had packed up in Baptiste's 406 last night - he unlocked with the key and the mugger-cop had to try and reach across instead of simply opening the passenger door, collect envelope, and have it on his toes...
Welshbeef said:
I don't agree that he should have judged him and elected to discard the evidence.
The tapes were found, though, weren't they - when the boat was found drifting, they had the bags of tapes and commented about how Garrett was financing the mayors election campaign.And he spotted the mark in the concrete when it was first laid. commenting that it was strange that Garrett would have allowed the contractors such a poor finish on his own house, but there was an embargo placed on excavating it due to lack of evidence which got lifted while he was with Tony back in the present, hence his dash to the scene to see what was there. A bit strange that he'd have been able to lift the shirt out and hide it with all those people around knowing he was looking for evidence.
Getting quite difficult to tell between flashback and now though - Baptiste is OK because he wears glasses now so even if he's not moving you can still tell, the parents hair is the giveaway for them, but the female detective is a bit confusing.
PurpleTurtle said:
Much as I'm enjoying this, there was a gaping chasm in the plot last night!
top detective skills from Baptiste for noticing the disturbed concrete years later. However, what about French Plod forensics going over Garrett's boat at the time, picking up Tony's DNA/fingerprints/clothing fibres? The thing would be riddled with it - there's no way Tony had time to do a proper clean-up and get back to collect Emily, even if he was late
Have they got the boat? And wasn't their some legal block on touching any of his property anyway? I was dozing so not really paying attention, I'll have to watch that episode again. Seems well written, I doubt there is a hole.top detective skills from Baptiste for noticing the disturbed concrete years later. However, what about French Plod forensics going over Garrett's boat at the time, picking up Tony's DNA/fingerprints/clothing fibres? The thing would be riddled with it - there's no way Tony had time to do a proper clean-up and get back to collect Emily, even if he was late
SteveScooby said:
When the reporter was interviewing Bourg, the camera panned out and showed kids toys in his house....
I also spotted this, but then the mrs spotted some wellies by the door near the toys, looked like maybe 2 pairs adult size and 1 child.At least the limp question has now been answered, and explains the copper in jail.
I think the reporter still holds whatever was/should have been in that envelope, (not even sure it was ever in the car after 1 of the Brussels comments) and i think it could be the, "missing key" so too speak. Now that Bourg is visiting the reporter, i think a bombshell is coming
I've not liked the reporter from the start, or the local French Mayor.
Ziane took something from the crime scene - don't know what.
Ziane gave something to the reporter - don't know what - could be the above.
Looks like reporter gave something to Baptise that Ziane was trying to get back - it was either the evidence or maybe the dirt the journalist had to get Ziane put away.
Either way Ziane has been put away for assaulting Baptise and/or for the contents of that envelope which probably show his shady past.
So I suspect whatever Ziane took from the crime scene will play a big part - but we don't know if the reporter had it.
There was a big gap between the crime and Ziane handing the envelope to the reporter.
Ziane gave something to the reporter - don't know what - could be the above.
Looks like reporter gave something to Baptise that Ziane was trying to get back - it was either the evidence or maybe the dirt the journalist had to get Ziane put away.
Either way Ziane has been put away for assaulting Baptise and/or for the contents of that envelope which probably show his shady past.
So I suspect whatever Ziane took from the crime scene will play a big part - but we don't know if the reporter had it.
There was a big gap between the crime and Ziane handing the envelope to the reporter.
RichB said:
Mojooo said:
...There was a big gap between the crime and Ziane handing the envelope to the reporter.
Was there? I thought both events occurred in the past time setting not the present. Don't shout at me if I'm wrong though. 
If Ziane had found something you would have thought he would have done something with it within the first few days.
droopsnoot said:
Getting quite difficult to tell between flashback and now though - Baptiste is OK because he wears glasses now so even if he's not moving you can still tell, the parents hair is the giveaway for them, but the female detective is a bit confusing.
Agree with that. At first she was in uniform in the past and plain clothes now but lately she is casually attired in both the past and the present.Mojooo said:
Looks like reporter gave something to Baptise that Ziane was trying to get back - it was either the evidence or maybe the dirt the journalist had to get Ziane put away.
I thought it was whatever the journo was holding over Ziane to make him co-operate in the first place. Envelope that Ziane handed to the journo seemed quite small but thick, whereas the envelope handed to Baptise looked like it was paperwork. Also Baptise mentioned that Ziane had never handed in any evidence while they were talking to Sieg in the hotel, which wouldn't have been true if the journo had passed it on to Baptise.The boat death piece is bothering me...I know it shouldn't but I cannot help myself...unless I'm totally confused and getting it all wrong (again).
It's very convenient finding a camera c/w incriminating tape pre-loaded on the boat. Why is the camera on the boat? Why is the tape still in it (being an architect he would - sans doubt - have access to a Bang and Olufsen 72" flat screen in his opulently appointed man cave)?
Are we to think the abuse happened on board? Or did matey just store the gear there and view it on the tiny camera screen? Would the local plod not have scoured every last inch of the craft looking for evidence? Including DNA. Both the perp and his victims (all 53 of them).
The casual way it was dealt with (the tapes apparently being too much for the plod to watch them all - is that how it works???) seems very at odds with this being a drama about infant abduction.
And Baptiste's English missus - she's been given quite an airing so far...wonder how else she might be tied into this sorry affair?
It's very convenient finding a camera c/w incriminating tape pre-loaded on the boat. Why is the camera on the boat? Why is the tape still in it (being an architect he would - sans doubt - have access to a Bang and Olufsen 72" flat screen in his opulently appointed man cave)?
Are we to think the abuse happened on board? Or did matey just store the gear there and view it on the tiny camera screen? Would the local plod not have scoured every last inch of the craft looking for evidence? Including DNA. Both the perp and his victims (all 53 of them).
The casual way it was dealt with (the tapes apparently being too much for the plod to watch them all - is that how it works???) seems very at odds with this being a drama about infant abduction.
And Baptiste's English missus - she's been given quite an airing so far...wonder how else she might be tied into this sorry affair?
The Don of Croy said:
...being an architect he would - sans doubt - have access to a Bang and Olufsen 72" flat screen in his opulently appointed man cave...
Unlikely he'd have one of those back in 2006 and anyway his opulently appointed country retreat wasn't built back then so one assumes he viewed them on his Yacht. The Don of Croy said:
Are we to think the abuse happened on board? Or did matey just store the gear there and view it on the tiny camera screen? Would the local plod not have scoured every last inch of the craft looking for evidence? Including DNA. Both the perp and his victims (all 53 of them).
I think it was just a convenient place for him to store stuff.I think we're supposed to think that Tony cleared up all the evidence on the boat, as they did show him making at attempt at cleaning up (although it's a bit far-fetched to think he'd be able to get rid of all traces). Or maybe it's connected with the "embargo" somehow. Anyway, I do think they could have easily dramatised it a bit differently to avoid the implausibility. E.g., Tony could have tried a bit harder not to leave any traces in the first place !
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