Films where the bad guys win?

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Nezquick

1,462 posts

127 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Man On Fire

MacW

1,349 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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The Hitcher (original, not seen the remake)

FourWheelDrift

88,661 posts

285 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Valkyrie - conspirators executed Hitler survives.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

213 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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The Life of Brian.

FourWheelDrift

88,661 posts

285 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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The Strangers

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Halmyre said:
Conpsiracy thrillers are a good source for this topic:

Blow Out
The Conversation
The Parallax View
Three Days of the Condor

TV Series:

Edge of Darkness
I can see the others but not condor

I distinctly remember the hit man killing the top guy instead of condor and then asking condor if he wanted to team up.

How about eiger sanction bad guy lives at the end three innocent die.

Mutley

3,178 posts

260 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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thesyn said:
Protagonists win rather than all out bad guys?
Agreed, it's all down to your/the films point of view as to who the bad guy is

Adam B

27,354 posts

255 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Crossflow Kid said:
Adam B said:
Quiet American (think it was, Clooney movie)
Wasn't that filmed as Syriana?
The American - was the film I meant

Halmyre

11,255 posts

140 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Pesty said:
Halmyre said:
Conpsiracy thrillers are a good source for this topic:

Blow Out
The Conversation
The Parallax View
Three Days of the Condor

TV Series:

Edge of Darkness
I can see the others but not condor

I distinctly remember the hit man killing the top guy instead of condor and then asking condor if he wanted to team up.

How about eiger sanction bad guy lives at the end three innocent die.
At the end of Condor one of the bad guys is still alive and asks Redford "how far can you walk?"

Eiger Sanction is arguably another anti-hero as protagonist; one of the other mountaineers was his target, the other two were "collateral damage" in effect (in any envent, their deaths are an accident and Eastwood's character doesn't find out which was the target until afterwards).

Another suggestion from me: Robocop.

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

137 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Films where the properly bad guys win:


Funny Games (original version, assume the remake ends the same)

A Serbian Film - pretty sure that the bad guys won out in the end. No intention to watch it again to confirm.

motorizer

1,498 posts

172 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Spartacus

TLandCruiser

2,789 posts

199 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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JFReturns said:
Watchmen.
Were they bad guys? or were the good guys doing bad things for the greater good biggrin

Carl_Spackler

2,651 posts

189 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.





Sort of.

gwm

2,390 posts

145 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Fight Club

His alter ego Tyler Durden - the bad guy - ruins his life, achieves his goals and ultimately kills him.


RB Will

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9,672 posts

241 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Guffy said:
Hans Lander from Inglorious Basterds got away with just some minor flesh wounds wink
I bloody love that character. I thinks its his generally polite cheerful way which then switches to cold death merchant.

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Halmyre said:
At the end of Condor one of the bad guys is still alive and asks Redford "how far can you walk?"

Eiger Sanction is arguably another anti-hero as protagonist; one of the other mountaineers was his target, the other two were "collateral damage" in effect (in any envent, their deaths are an accident and Eastwood's character doesn't find out which was the target until afterwards).

Another suggestion from me: Robocop.
Yes but the bad guy was his trainer. he was a traitor who was to be executed. Eastwood let him live after finding out and completely in the clear because the boss thought he killed all three possible suspects.

Id say that definitely means the bad guy won.

Halmyre

11,255 posts

140 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Pesty said:
Halmyre said:
At the end of Condor one of the bad guys is still alive and asks Redford "how far can you walk?"

Eiger Sanction is arguably another anti-hero as protagonist; one of the other mountaineers was his target, the other two were "collateral damage" in effect (in any envent, their deaths are an accident and Eastwood's character doesn't find out which was the target until afterwards).

Another suggestion from me: Robocop.
Yes but the bad guy was his trainer. he was a traitor who was to be executed. Eastwood let him live after finding out and completely in the clear because the boss thought he killed all three possible suspects.

Id say that definitely means the bad guy won.
Damn, I'd forgotten about Ben!

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Cold weather brought the limp out smile

Pope I've Got to waste you a litle smile love that film.

Halmyre

11,255 posts

140 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Pesty said:
Cold weather brought the limp out smile

Pope I've Got to waste you a litle smile love that film.
I read the book when it first came out. Found out years later it was supposed to be tongue in cheek (according to the author). Didn't get the 'Yurasis Dragon' joke until I saw someone else comment on it.

EarlOfHazard

3,605 posts

159 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Was gonna put Man on Fire but was beaten to it.
Anyway, There Will Be Blood.