Jurassic World
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Seen this on Friday. Only us in the cinema. Can see why, what a crock.
Far too many nods to the original, from the camera shots/angles, the clothing they had on (little lad wearing a tea-towel shirt just like the kid from the first) to straight up cut n paste jobs like *dramatic pause* "RUUUUNNNN!!!!". Not sure if that was the intention, but I hated it.
Other things wrong:
1) the interlude comedy moments... Marvel can pull these off, the little 10 second scenes where there is a funny quip or action. Here they failed big time, they all felt shoe-horned. Take for instance the CEO guy with his comedy helicopter skills (needless) and the instructor running for the bushes to vomit when he landed (needless). Or that guy from "New Girl" pretending to be a gallant hero by staying back to watch the monitors and leaning in for the kiss... flat as a fking fence.
2) the secret plot thing with the army guy was dropped like it was hotter than hot. Chinese jonny ive seemed like an interesting chap but was quickly overlooked.
3) that kid. fk me kid actors are universally terrible, but I wanted to throttle this kid and his adolescent-keanu-reaves brother after about 5 minutes. One second he's wailing like its the end of the world, the very next he's all smiles shouting "wait till mom sees this!" like its all one big joke. Make your fking mind up lad, you're either terrified or you aren't!
4) them heels. Now I presumed the main lady who looked like a rip off pepper pots and tied her shirt in a bow above her stomach (again nod to the first one, I think) had also tossed her heels and was running around barefoot. Nope, had those ridiculous heels on the whole time. Sorry but you're ankles would be in smithereens (so I am reliably informed by my OH, just so people don't think I go running in heels!).
5) Above posts just reminded me, product placement. Obvious to the max. If we weren't getting shots of varios Mercedes (including a 6x6! and cool Unimogs), we were getting shots of all the fast food places and tat shops you normally find at theme parks.
It really did feel like a pea-roast of JP with some bad comedy, bad acting and a ton of bigger is better gloss thrown in. I have to say I wasn't even all that convinced by the CGI, which considering the time span between this and the first one which pioneered the technology should be something that isn't even questioned. Riding a motorbike through the woods flanked by raptors is a cool image, but it looked like a video game. Also some scenes had entirely too many dinosaurs in, like they were showing off how many dino's they can render in a single scene. Just not necessary.
I want what Spielberger is smoking.
JP1 is still the top dog in this series.
EDIT: Oh and 6) The cinema we went to had it shown in some weird square aspect. We waited for the film to fill the screen like it normally does when the license plate appears. But it didn't. We enquired and apparently its not been recorded in wide, but flat. So watching in 2D, we had two glaringly obvious black bars either side of the screen! I assume this is because it was filmed in 3D and they use a different aspect ratio? Apparently Tomorrow Land was the same.
Far too many nods to the original, from the camera shots/angles, the clothing they had on (little lad wearing a tea-towel shirt just like the kid from the first) to straight up cut n paste jobs like *dramatic pause* "RUUUUNNNN!!!!". Not sure if that was the intention, but I hated it.
Other things wrong:
1) the interlude comedy moments... Marvel can pull these off, the little 10 second scenes where there is a funny quip or action. Here they failed big time, they all felt shoe-horned. Take for instance the CEO guy with his comedy helicopter skills (needless) and the instructor running for the bushes to vomit when he landed (needless). Or that guy from "New Girl" pretending to be a gallant hero by staying back to watch the monitors and leaning in for the kiss... flat as a fking fence.
2) the secret plot thing with the army guy was dropped like it was hotter than hot. Chinese jonny ive seemed like an interesting chap but was quickly overlooked.
3) that kid. fk me kid actors are universally terrible, but I wanted to throttle this kid and his adolescent-keanu-reaves brother after about 5 minutes. One second he's wailing like its the end of the world, the very next he's all smiles shouting "wait till mom sees this!" like its all one big joke. Make your fking mind up lad, you're either terrified or you aren't!
4) them heels. Now I presumed the main lady who looked like a rip off pepper pots and tied her shirt in a bow above her stomach (again nod to the first one, I think) had also tossed her heels and was running around barefoot. Nope, had those ridiculous heels on the whole time. Sorry but you're ankles would be in smithereens (so I am reliably informed by my OH, just so people don't think I go running in heels!).
5) Above posts just reminded me, product placement. Obvious to the max. If we weren't getting shots of varios Mercedes (including a 6x6! and cool Unimogs), we were getting shots of all the fast food places and tat shops you normally find at theme parks.
It really did feel like a pea-roast of JP with some bad comedy, bad acting and a ton of bigger is better gloss thrown in. I have to say I wasn't even all that convinced by the CGI, which considering the time span between this and the first one which pioneered the technology should be something that isn't even questioned. Riding a motorbike through the woods flanked by raptors is a cool image, but it looked like a video game. Also some scenes had entirely too many dinosaurs in, like they were showing off how many dino's they can render in a single scene. Just not necessary.
I want what Spielberger is smoking.
JP1 is still the top dog in this series.
EDIT: Oh and 6) The cinema we went to had it shown in some weird square aspect. We waited for the film to fill the screen like it normally does when the license plate appears. But it didn't. We enquired and apparently its not been recorded in wide, but flat. So watching in 2D, we had two glaringly obvious black bars either side of the screen! I assume this is because it was filmed in 3D and they use a different aspect ratio? Apparently Tomorrow Land was the same.
Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Tuesday 30th June 09:39
Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Tuesday 30th June 09:40
ali_kat said:
The product placement in the film was not at the behest of the studio, but was rather the idea of the writers and director Colin Trevorrow as a way to satirize the corporatization of popular entertainment, and to represent the sponsorship within the actual Park
yes, and it was brilliant to be honest.ali_kat said:
The product placement in the film was not at the behest of the studio, but was rather the idea of the writers and director Colin Trevorrow as a way to satirize the corporatization of popular entertainment, and to represent the sponsorship within the actual Park
This. You'd be fking mental to think that the biggest most famous theme park in the world (JW definitely would be) would NOT be crammed full of brands. Jesus there's even a scene in there about them trying to sell naming rights to the I-Rex to Verizon/AT&T I think? I loved all the first bit as I think it totally nailed how quickly the public really would get bored about dinosaurs being available to see again.
The early scene with the T-Rex had this bang on, the teenager was so bored of dinosaurs he couldn't be bothered to even look at it instead of his mobile phone. The whole thing carries on the base idea of man vs nature from the first film beautifully. Malcolm's "slapped it on a lunchbox" rant come true in a gloriously blasé nightmare.
Edited by MiniMan64 on Tuesday 30th June 13:25
MiniMan64 said:
The early scene with the T-Rex had this bang on, the teenager was so bored of dinosaurs he couldn't be bothered to even look at it instead of his mobile phone. The whole thing carries on the base idea of man vs nature from the first film beautifully. Malcolm's "slapped it on a lunchbox" rant come true in a gloriously blasé nightmare.
I actually thought the movie was incredibly clever and self aware. The scene with the great white, to me, was a perfect illustration.Remember the movie that kicked off the monster movie fest? Right, Jaws, way back in the '70s. That cumulated to the masterpiece that was Jurassic Park, using frickin dinosaurs to hunt for people. Now, even those dinosaurs aren't enough to entertain them (and by them I do mean the movie goer, the kid in the park is just the analogy), people want bigger, better and with more teeth.
The branding didn't irk me. Yes, it was blatant, but I'd expect there to be a Starbucks and a Samsung/Apple store in such a park. Them all using the same brand of vehicles also makes sense and Merc is the perfect choice, from Uber luxury to G-wagons (6x6 AMG was in there ) to vans and unimogs. Give me one brand that has such a diverse range.
moanthebairns said:
the only thing I was hugely disappointed about was the quote "I've spared no expense never featured".
? Really. I distinctly remember the new "corp guy" (indian business man) saying something in the lines of: "In the vision of John Hammond, spared no expense."Edited by ZesPak on Tuesday 30th June 13:38
Otispunkmeyer said:
Now I presumed the main lady who looked like a rip off pepper pots and tied her shirt in a bow above her stomach (again nod to the first one, I think) had also tossed her heels and was running around barefoot. Nope, had those ridiculous heels on the whole time. Sorry but you're ankles would be in smithereens (so I am reliably informed by my OH, just so people don't think I go running in heels!).
It's a nod to Richard Attenborough and his white suit & hat (shoes).MiniMan64 said:
moanthebairns said:
the only thing I was hugely disappointed about was the quote "I've spared no expense never featured".
It was several times, by the new owner (who I thought was criminal underused!) Perhaps I missed it as it wasn't Richard saying it...or could have been with the amount of bds munching food or texting in the cinema...
Its the first film in years I want to go and see again at the cinema.
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