Top Gear: Patagonia Special

[Chris_H]

There are two episodes. The first is 20:30 on the 27th December with the second on the 28th also at 20:30. Apparently, there's a bit of an issue......

[Amirhussain]

[Pints]

Chris_H said:

Apparently, there's a bit of an issue......

How so?

[speedking31]

Because 28 is the last two digits of the model number of the Porsche that caused such a furore, so to placate the Argentinians the BBC has agreed to show some of the programme on the 27th

[pork911]

will there be any racial slurs that the presenters, producers and BBC standards don't realise are derogatory before broadcast and complaint?

Edited by pork911 on Monday 8th December 19:54

[Munter]

pork911 said:

will there be any racial slurs that the presenters, producers and BBC standards don't realise are derogatory before broadcast?

There's probably some Argy bargy between the cars.

[Potatoes]

pork911 said:

will there be any racial slurs that the presenters, producers and BBC standards don't realise are derogatory before broadcast and complaint?

I hope so

[pork911]

Potatoes said:

I hope so

you're a fan of public service broadcaster racial slurs?

[Potatoes]

pork911 said:

Potatoes said:

I hope so

you're a fan of public service broadcaster racial slurs?

You sound like a Radio 4 interviewer trying to corner the interviewee into agreeing to something they probably shouldn't/don't agree with.

No, I'm a fan of pushing the boundaries in this overly sensitive culture we live in...

Sometimes JC pushes a little far but we need these characters in our broadcasting world to keep it interesting.

That's my view anyway

ETA - I keep double posting for some reason?!

Edited by Potatoes on Monday 8th December 20:02

[anonymous-user]

Munter said:

pork911 said:

will there be any racial slurs that the presenters, producers and BBC standards don't realise are derogatory before broadcast?

There's probably some Argy bargy between the cars.

Apparently they've got some new opening credits too

[Jonny_]

Potatoes said:

You sound like a Radio 4 interviewer trying to corner the interviewee into agreeing to something they probably shouldn't/don't agree with.

No, I'm a fan of pushing the boundaries in this overly sensitive culture we live in...

Sometimes JC pushes a little far but we need these characters in our broadcasting world to keep it interesting.

That's my view anyway

ETA - I keep double posting for some reason?!

Edited by Potatoes on Monday 8th December 20:02

I'm glad I'm not alone in distinguishing between poking fun at racial stereotypes and/or past confrontations ("comedy") and actually abusing, harming or excluding someone based on their race ("racism").

Quite looking forward to the TG special, just hope it isn't a flop after all this hype.

[MG CHRIS]

What happened with the 2nd series this year normally 2 a year there has only been 1 this year.

[Welshbeef]

MG CHRIS said:

What happened with the 2nd series this year normally 2 a year there has only been 1 this year.

Yes only 6 episodes all year yet we were promised a P1 v 918 v La Ferrari at the track once it was dry.... Nothing

Pants on fire.

[Zoobeef]

pork911 said:

will there be any racial slurs that the presenters, producers and BBC standards don't realise are derogatory before broadcast and complaint?

Edited by pork911 on Monday 8th December 19:54

I'm confused at the minute. I'm watching family guy and it's full of racial slurs, how come this comedy can do what they want and the top gear comedy cannot?

[pork911]

Zoobeef said:

pork911 said:

will there be any racial slurs that the presenters, producers and BBC standards don't realise are derogatory before broadcast and complaint?

I'm confused at the minute. I'm watching family guy and it's full of racial slurs, how come this comedy can do what they want and the top gear comedy cannot?

hmmm let me see

public service broadcaster, family show, deliberately include 'slope' joke to reference the guy, then post complaint plead ignorance that they knew or ought to have known 'slope' might be offensive - though i'm guessing the crew weren't referring to locals in that way off camera and i can't say i ever heard jonathan head using the term etc

[anonymous-user]

Zoobeef said:

I'm confused at the minute. I'm watching family guy and it's full of racial slurs, how come this comedy can do what they want and the top gear comedy cannot?

It's because TG is also categorised as "factual" (as some of their material is precisely that.)
The problems arise when the line between factual and comedy starts to blur.
Although the TG fanboyz will jump up and down and says it's obvious when Jennifer, Gerbil and Slow are being serious or not, not everyone agrees.

[Zoobeef]

Ahh so you can be as rasist as you like as long as it's down as being a comedy show beforehand. Even though it's still on the BBC (3)
I'm sure everyone will agree that top gear stopped being factual a long time ago.

[DJRC]

pork911 said:

Potatoes said:

I hope so

you're a fan of public service broadcaster racial slurs?

Absolutely! My credo is that everyone and everyone should have the piss ripped out of them all the time.

Im ginger. With freckles.

[anonymous-user]

Zoobeef said:

I'm sure everyone will agree that top gear stopped being factual a long time ago.

Those who "get" Top Gear would.
Those who don't, won't.

[pork911]

Crossflow Kid said:

Zoobeef said:

I'm confused at the minute. I'm watching family guy and it's full of racial slurs, how come this comedy can do what they want and the top gear comedy cannot?

It's because TG is also categorised as "factual" (as some of their material is precisely that.)
The problems arise when the line between factual and comedy starts to blur.
Although the TG fanboyz will jump up and down and says it's obvious when Jennifer, Gerbil and Slow are being serious or not, not everyone agrees.

maybe have a little flash of 'banter' on the screen at appropriate moments to flag and excuse any racial slurs?

ahh but that wouldn't work because clarkson, hammond, the crew, producers and BBC standards didn't know 'slope' was a slur, probably just thought it was a term of endearment