Top Gear Series 22
Discussion
I'm a bit of a Pug fan having rescued an old 306 L from a HG failure, and then buying a lovely (IMO!) 407 HDI 110.
I then bought a brand new 208 and it's a nice little car.
They did go through a rough patch but overall Pugs tend to be good cars with good engines and chassis from my experience
I then bought a brand new 208 and it's a nice little car.
They did go through a rough patch but overall Pugs tend to be good cars with good engines and chassis from my experience
The Peugeot segment was funny for about five minutes, but it was dragged out for far too long. It would have been nice if they'd ended showing the RCZ-R or the 208 GTi 30 to prove that Peugeot is starting to make some decent stuff again.
La Ferrari, all very nice, but doesn't really do anything for me. As others have already said, it just isn't pretty enough for me.
La Ferrari, all very nice, but doesn't really do anything for me. As others have already said, it just isn't pretty enough for me.
greggy50 said:
I think its a decent looking car to be honest also had a boggo diesel 1.6 HDI 92hp one as a hire car and even that was very well equipped with a big touch screen sat nav, climate, parking sensors etc... and seemed a lot of car for the money.
Also interior quality was really very high far better than a Focus and even a Golf in terms of materials and was certainly a nicer place to sit than either of those two cars to be honest handed the car back amazed you don't see many on the roads looks nice, drives as good as the focus, good value and loads of equipment for a low price its a very good car far better than the previous versions.
Have the TG trio ever done a substantially negative feature on Fords like the one they did on Peugeot?Also interior quality was really very high far better than a Focus and even a Golf in terms of materials and was certainly a nicer place to sit than either of those two cars to be honest handed the car back amazed you don't see many on the roads looks nice, drives as good as the focus, good value and loads of equipment for a low price its a very good car far better than the previous versions.
Not seen all TGs output, but, cannot remember ever seeing anything like the Peugeot feature for Ford so maybe partly explains why UK's roads have lots of Fords on them. Cannot see TG's largely negative slant for Peugeot improving Peugeot sales in the UK anytime soon. Why this TG Ford favouritism and bias?
Actually, since the asset stripped remnants of MG-Rover were allowed to die, there's been an increase of Peugeots locally in front of Neighbours' garages where once MGs and Rovers were parked. Those French cars mostly driven by women.
TG has strong influence on the way consumers view cars and those who drive them. No question. Certainly nobody has ever been known to actually admit that TG influences their car choice, but reveal it does so in other more reliable ways.
MGJohn said:
Not seen all TGs output, but, cannot remember ever seeing anything like the Peugeot feature for Ford so maybe partly explains why UK's roads have lots of Fords on them.
"Buy a Ford" has been the default behaviour for a vast number of British motorists since the 1960's or even earlier, which pre-dates Top Gear. I think you're rather over-estimating the show's influence!MGJohn said:
greggy50 said:
I think its a decent looking car to be honest also had a boggo diesel 1.6 HDI 92hp one as a hire car and even that was very well equipped with a big touch screen sat nav, climate, parking sensors etc... and seemed a lot of car for the money.
Also interior quality was really very high far better than a Focus and even a Golf in terms of materials and was certainly a nicer place to sit than either of those two cars to be honest handed the car back amazed you don't see many on the roads looks nice, drives as good as the focus, good value and loads of equipment for a low price its a very good car far better than the previous versions.
Have the TG trio ever done a substantially negative feature on Fords like the one they did on Peugeot?Also interior quality was really very high far better than a Focus and even a Golf in terms of materials and was certainly a nicer place to sit than either of those two cars to be honest handed the car back amazed you don't see many on the roads looks nice, drives as good as the focus, good value and loads of equipment for a low price its a very good car far better than the previous versions.
Not seen all TGs output, but, cannot remember ever seeing anything like the Peugeot feature for Ford so maybe partly explains why UK's roads have lots of Fords on them. Cannot see TG's largely negative slant for Peugeot improving Peugeot sales in the UK anytime soon. Why this TG Ford favouritism and bias?
Actually, since the asset stripped remnants of MG-Rover were allowed to die, there's been an increase of Peugeots locally in front of Neighbours' garages where once MGs and Rovers were parked. Those French cars mostly driven by women.
TG has strong influence on the way consumers view cars and those who drive them. No question. Certainly nobody has ever been known to actually admit that TG influences their car choice, but reveal it does so in other more reliable ways.
DuncanM said:
I'm a bit of a Pug fan having rescued an old 306 L from a HG failure, and then buying a lovely (IMO!) 407 HDI 110.
Rescuing a Pug. Funny you mention that. Long time friends had their daughter's 206 parked up on their drive for close to two years following MoT failure with a very long list of fails. She asked me to take it and get it weighed in for scrap to free up space for their other cars. Took my sons along and the older one, on seeing the car, stated no way is this a scrapper. We towed it to our place and my sons went to the scrap yard ( about half a dozen 206s there all the same colour silver! ) getting a Fuel pump for the starting issues and fixing that with spares from the scrap yard. They soon had it running ( with one of my spare batteries ) and I agreed that provided they got stuck in and worked their way through the failure list, they could keep the car and sell it on. My older son who mainly managed this Pug Project was working sixty miles away most of the week so it took time to work through that long MoT list but, we got there in the end. Only to have it fail on EMISSIONS! My friendly MoT tester thought almost certainly the emissions fail was down to the Catalytic Converter in his experience of 206 and Peugeot Testing. So it proved. A fifty quid Cat-Conv. off ebay and the retest obtained a pass. Fitted that ourselves.I also did quite a lot of work on this car and in doing so, came to realise how flimsy these cars are compared to others I've worked on. Even so, with all the aches and pains sorted for not too much outlay, I have been pleasantly surprised by how well the car runs now.
The timing belt is an unknown quantity so to be on the safe side, I'll renew that and then we shall have more confidence in the little car when we decide to sell it. Amazing how some TLC can transform the way a car performs. The improvement in this car is little short of amazing after our work. Fresh Oil and filter helped too.
One of my older son's MG/Rover mad friends works for a Peugeot dealership and marked our cards about what to look for with these 206 petrol engines. They are prone to suffer Cylinder Head Gasket problems apparently. He came round in his new demonstrator which as diesels go, that one goes well.
Who knew? I didn't ... are you listening clever clog BBC WATCHDOG types? You brainwashed a Nation into believing only Rovers do that HGF thing! Know-nowt plonkers! ... Who knew indeed!
JonRB said:
MGJohn said:
Not seen all TGs output, but, cannot remember ever seeing anything like the Peugeot feature for Ford so maybe partly explains why UK's roads have lots of Fords on them.
"Buy a Ford" has been the default behaviour for a vast number of British motorists since the 1960's or even earlier, which pre-dates Top Gear. I think you're rather over-estimating the show's influence!MGJohn said:
JonRB said:
MGJohn said:
Not seen all TGs output, but, cannot remember ever seeing anything like the Peugeot feature for Ford so maybe partly explains why UK's roads have lots of Fords on them.
"Buy a Ford" has been the default behaviour for a vast number of British motorists since the 1960's or even earlier, which pre-dates Top Gear. I think you're rather over-estimating the show's influence!civicduty said:
Lincsblokey said:
Scuffers said:
Drive Blind said:
i've seen at least 2 918 v P1 vids, it seems it's Ferrari being awkward
918 v P1 drag race, the 918 has it up to about 130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfLqa4vlmFI
Stunningly impressive bike!918 v P1 drag race, the 918 has it up to about 130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfLqa4vlmFI
200bhp at the crank, no bottom end (compared to IL4's)
Shame it had to be Italian & Red, if they had brought along a ZX10R, or, for the ultimate test, the ridiculous fast BMWS1000RR, I doubt either the Porsche or P1 would have seen it for dust.
0 - 62 = 3.11s
0 - 124 = 7.00s
1/4 mile = 9.93s @ 149.8mph
Max Speed = 192mph
McLaren P1
0 - 62 = 2.7s
0 - 124 = 6.8s
1/4 mile = 9.8s @ 152mph
Max Speed = 217mph
Porsche 918
0 - 62 = 2.5s
0 - 124 = 7.2s
1/4 Mile = 9.9s @ 146mph
Mas Speed = 214mph
Oh yeah the two cars would be eating so much dust it would be untrue.
look up BMW HP4.....
Plus, the Ducati is hideous to get off the line, the electronics on the BMW (as an example) are far more advanced, a decent launch would have helped the panigirlys times no end!
The HP4 cracks over 200mph with its stock exhaust on it, let alone any mods.
So yes, until it ran out of puff, its gone.
Edited by Lincsblokey on Wednesday 25th February 14:36
Lincsblokey said:
If only the BMW was that tame.
look up BMW HP4.....
The McLaren P1 has a 0-62 mph time of 2.8 seconds, the same as a BMW HP4.look up BMW HP4.....
It has a 0-124 mph time of 6.8 seconds, one tenth of a second faster than the HP4.
The P1 has a 0-186 mph time of 16.5 seconds , the HP4 does it in 19.1 seconds.
So yes it would beat one in a straight line and then absolutely leave one for dead on the track as you would expect being 50x the price.
You could of course achieve a similar affect with a tunned up GTR for only 3/4x the price of the bike I
MGJohn said:
TG has strong influence on the way consumers view cars and those who drive them. No question. Certainly nobody has ever been known to actually admit that TG influences their car choice, but reveal it does so in other more reliable ways.
I'll admit that they did influence the choice of one car for us, in one of the first episodes of the current format of Top Gear Clarkson tested the Citroen Berlingo and rated it very highly. Based on that knowledge when looking at one in the Citroen dealers (considering a C3 as a small hatch) we decided to test drive it and bought one. The fact that in a serious car review Clarkson rated it was definitely an influence.andyps said:
MGJohn said:
TG has strong influence on the way consumers view cars and those who drive them. No question. Certainly nobody has ever been known to actually admit that TG influences their car choice, but reveal it does so in other more reliable ways.
I'll admit that they did influence the choice of one car for us, in one of the first episodes of the current format of Top Gear Clarkson tested the Citroen Berlingo and rated it very highly. Based on that knowledge when looking at one in the Citroen dealers (considering a C3 as a small hatch) we decided to test drive it and bought one. The fact that in a serious car review Clarkson rated it was definitely an influence.Someone has actually admitted the influence....
... to Andy.In my direct experience, not just stuff on the net and car related sites, simply listening to work colleagues, relatives and others discussing the latest TG on the box, soon becomes obvious it has massive influence certainly in the UK.
Unlike andyps, few ever admit it, but, it's there all the same.
There again sheeple me ..... No way would you ever see me buy a car which did not appear on TG's "Cool" wall ... except my MGs and Rovers .... Most uncool ...
spats said:
Did I mishear of did Olly Murrs sing " Don't cry for me Argentina" while doing his lap?
Yes, this hasn't suffered a meltdown so I think they missed it - https://en-gb.facebook.com/OllyMursArgentina <--- public I can see it and I'm not a member of FB.But the tour might be on hold.
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