Top Gear Series 22
Discussion
RobinBanks said:
MGJohn said:
Who knew? I didn't ... are you listening clever clog BBC WATCHDOG types? You brainwashed a Nation into believing only Rovers do that HGF thing! Know-nowt plonkers! ... Who knew indeed! 
You really are grasping at straws to try to make that comment relevant.
RobinBanks said:
MGJohn said:
Who knew? I didn't ... are you listening clever clog BBC WATCHDOG types? You brainwashed a Nation into believing only Rovers do that HGF thing! Know-nowt plonkers! ... Who knew indeed!
You really are grasping at straws to try to make that comment relevant.MGJohn said:
RobinBanks said:
MGJohn said:
Who knew? I didn't ... are you listening clever clog BBC WATCHDOG types? You brainwashed a Nation into believing only Rovers do that HGF thing! Know-nowt plonkers! ... Who knew indeed!
You really are grasping at straws to try to make that comment relevant.RobinBanks said:
MGJohn said:
RobinBanks said:
MGJohn said:
Who knew? I didn't ... are you listening clever clog BBC WATCHDOG types? You brainwashed a Nation into believing only Rovers do that HGF thing! Know-nowt plonkers! ... Who knew indeed!
You really are grasping at straws to try to make that comment relevant.TG has huge influence as does the BBC in many things and not always positive in all its forms.
WATCHDOG ... TOP GEAR. To Differentiate. Spot the difference. Huge influence not always good.
That bloke next to you ... does he really ...
Rich_W said:
loads of people on this thread said:
You think McLaren don't do this? You think they don't have specific press cars that are optimized? You think they don't send a team of people to accompany their cars to media events? ALL the manufacturers do it! Chris Harris made himself look massively stupid with that post. No wonder Ferrari got the hump with him afterwards Not because it's not true they optimise cars for tests. But because the inference was ONLY they do it. I've see internal memos from 5 manufacturers regarding "Press Cars" and the rules surrounding them and who works on them and etc etc
BorkFactor said:
According to the McLaren Twitter page, they were ready with a car to be tested and Top Gear cancelled?
https://twitter.com/mclarenauto
The plot thickens...
What you reckon 10%? 20% more boost? Proper suspension set up for Dunsfold? https://twitter.com/mclarenauto
The plot thickens...
ralphrj said:
McLaren wouldn't let them test the P1 on the Top Gear track - presumably because they knew that the 918 would be faster.
I would be in no way surpised if all 3 manufacturers have tested each others cars and know a) what sort of lap time they do and b) What sort of track favours their car over the others.To me. On a lap of say Silverstone I'd expect the Ferrari (most power, lightest weight) to be fastest just from the P1 both of whom are a relatively large chunk of time ahead of 918.
I suspect though the Nurburgring may be a different story, hence why McLaren chose not to release their video like Porsche did. I also suspect the 918 would run a LaF very bloody close as well. If not beat it perhaps?
Edited by Rich_W on Monday 23 February 22:06
ks), the 3-way is on, at a venue to be decided, to take place in the Spring, and shown later in the year as a one-off special.I reckon everything so far has just been a nifty way to hype it up.
Sunday Times article said:
It’s on: hypercar ‘holy trinity’ set for ultimate track battle
The scene is set for what is being billed as the greatest showdown in supercar history. This spring, the three most advanced cars on the planet are due to go head-to-head on the track for the first time.
McLaren’s 217mph P1 and the 211mph Porsche 918 Spyder will be brought together with the Ferrari LaFerrari (top speed unknown, but more than 217mph) in a contest organised by Top Gear.
Each will be in the hands of the Stig, Top Gear’s mysterious, unnamed racing driver, who will take their combined 2728bhp, hi-tech hybrid systems and carbon-fibre chassis to the limit as he sets a lap time for all three.
After all the hype about these hypercars, this could prove the ultimate test of speed, grip and streamlining. The results matter far more to each firm than having the best top speed or fastest acceleration — whatever they might say.
Andy Wilman, executive producer of Top Gear, said that Ferrari and McLaren were the most fiercely competitive, and were still discussing exactly where and how their cars would be tested. “That’s your Foreman and Ali,” he said. Porsche, whose 918 is the cheapest of the three at a mere £625,000, may assume that its car’s four-wheel-drive system will give it an advantage on any track.
The three cars — dubbed the holy trinity — are likely to race at the site of previous closely fought motorsport battles in mainland Europe: Monza in Italy or Imola in the republic of San Marino. The Paul Ricard circuit in France is another possibility. Dry weather is crucial for the test.
“We’re aiming for a big, iconic circuit where the Stig can get a decent speed up on the straights,” said Wilman. The showdown will not be shown in the current Top Gear series, which is due to finish at the end of this month, so it is likely to be screened as a one-off episode later this year.
Until now, the hypercars had only been tested together on public highways as opposed to a racetrack, and at road-legal speeds. Top Gear highlighted the issue in last Sunday’s episode after James May had reviewed the £1m LaFerrari. “Who here would like to see which of these cars is the fastest round our track?” Jeremy Clarkson asked the audience, to resounding cheers. “So would we.”
He said that Porsche was happy to run the 918 against its rivals but that McLaren had objected to the test being held at Top Gear’s Dunsfold test track.
Clarkson went on to say that Ferrari had banned its customers from allowing its cars to be tested, on pain of being blacklisted from buying any future limited-edition Ferrari.
After soaking in the groans of disappointment from the studio audience, McLaren told The Sunday Times last week that it would now be happy for the £866,000 P1 to be tested at Dunsfold or any other track.
Ferrari has also reached an agreement with the BBC. “I replied to Top Gear, ‘We’re not [normally] interested in this sort of thing [head-to head challenges] but if you tell me when, where, I’ll give you a car — if I have a car,’” said Stefano Lai, communication director at Ferrari. “I don’t think anybody will buy or not buy a car if you do a lap one-tenth of a second less or more [than a rival]. A car is more than that.”
The contest is a matter of pride for the manufacturers, rather than sales. All three limited-edition cars are already sold out.
The scene is set for what is being billed as the greatest showdown in supercar history. This spring, the three most advanced cars on the planet are due to go head-to-head on the track for the first time.
McLaren’s 217mph P1 and the 211mph Porsche 918 Spyder will be brought together with the Ferrari LaFerrari (top speed unknown, but more than 217mph) in a contest organised by Top Gear.
Each will be in the hands of the Stig, Top Gear’s mysterious, unnamed racing driver, who will take their combined 2728bhp, hi-tech hybrid systems and carbon-fibre chassis to the limit as he sets a lap time for all three.
After all the hype about these hypercars, this could prove the ultimate test of speed, grip and streamlining. The results matter far more to each firm than having the best top speed or fastest acceleration — whatever they might say.
Andy Wilman, executive producer of Top Gear, said that Ferrari and McLaren were the most fiercely competitive, and were still discussing exactly where and how their cars would be tested. “That’s your Foreman and Ali,” he said. Porsche, whose 918 is the cheapest of the three at a mere £625,000, may assume that its car’s four-wheel-drive system will give it an advantage on any track.
The three cars — dubbed the holy trinity — are likely to race at the site of previous closely fought motorsport battles in mainland Europe: Monza in Italy or Imola in the republic of San Marino. The Paul Ricard circuit in France is another possibility. Dry weather is crucial for the test.
“We’re aiming for a big, iconic circuit where the Stig can get a decent speed up on the straights,” said Wilman. The showdown will not be shown in the current Top Gear series, which is due to finish at the end of this month, so it is likely to be screened as a one-off episode later this year.
Until now, the hypercars had only been tested together on public highways as opposed to a racetrack, and at road-legal speeds. Top Gear highlighted the issue in last Sunday’s episode after James May had reviewed the £1m LaFerrari. “Who here would like to see which of these cars is the fastest round our track?” Jeremy Clarkson asked the audience, to resounding cheers. “So would we.”
He said that Porsche was happy to run the 918 against its rivals but that McLaren had objected to the test being held at Top Gear’s Dunsfold test track.
Clarkson went on to say that Ferrari had banned its customers from allowing its cars to be tested, on pain of being blacklisted from buying any future limited-edition Ferrari.
After soaking in the groans of disappointment from the studio audience, McLaren told The Sunday Times last week that it would now be happy for the £866,000 P1 to be tested at Dunsfold or any other track.
Ferrari has also reached an agreement with the BBC. “I replied to Top Gear, ‘We’re not [normally] interested in this sort of thing [head-to head challenges] but if you tell me when, where, I’ll give you a car — if I have a car,’” said Stefano Lai, communication director at Ferrari. “I don’t think anybody will buy or not buy a car if you do a lap one-tenth of a second less or more [than a rival]. A car is more than that.”
The contest is a matter of pride for the manufacturers, rather than sales. All three limited-edition cars are already sold out.
DervVW said:
egor110 said:
Scuffers said:
I see Ferrari still want to supply their own car....
I'd like topgear to invite nissan to bring a gtr modified up to the cost of the ferrari etc and see how that compares.egor110 said:
DervVW said:
egor110 said:
Scuffers said:
I see Ferrari still want to supply their own car....
I'd like topgear to invite nissan to bring a gtr modified up to the cost of the ferrari etc and see how that compares.Skylinecrazy said:
egor110 said:
DervVW said:
egor110 said:
Scuffers said:
I see Ferrari still want to supply their own car....
I'd like topgear to invite nissan to bring a gtr modified up to the cost of the ferrari etc and see how that compares.Skylinecrazy said:
egor110 said:
DervVW said:
egor110 said:
Scuffers said:
I see Ferrari still want to supply their own car....
I'd like topgear to invite nissan to bring a gtr modified up to the cost of the ferrari etc and see how that compares.Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff