Top Gear Series 22

[Streetrod]

So another negative review for the Huracan, there seems to be a trend building in the media building

[cerb4.5lee]

StottyEvo said:

Don't get me wrong I'd love to own one and I think it looks brilliant. I do understand his point though, he's saying its more VW and less Lamborghini (his interpretations or what these brands mean anyway) Taking this further you could say selling lots reduces the exclusivity of the car, making it less desirable to the people that would generally buy a Lamborghini.

I couldn't agree more

[cerb4.5lee]

JonRB said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

I understand the comment about the Audi input but all these supercars are so tricked out with computers how many are "real drivers" cars.

Which is the point Hammond was making, surely? That a supercar has to be more than just performance; it has to make your knees go wobbly just at the thought of driving it. It has to be thrilling even when pootling.

Interestingly, there was a recent interview with Rowan Atkinson saying that this is exactly how he feels about his McLaren F1 and what modern machinery has lost sight of.

Really agree with this, the problem as we all knew was that eventually with Audi in charge and their excellence in dullness being so well proven it was inevitable...I still wouldn't say no to one though to be fair...but its another prime example of the past being better than the future regards cars.

[MGJohn]

Bit disappointed with this first showing. In the past they have usually used the first programme to show the weakest one in the series so later ones should be better. Lets hope so.

[Inertiatic]

The Huracan sits in a weird middle ground. Its more Gallardo mk2 than new car.

I can't see what it has over a 650s or 458...or a V10 R8 come to that if you want 4wd.

[Antony Moxey]

Rather amusing seeing comments both on here and on the programme itself about the new Lamborghini maybe being not quite that special. I reckon for probably 99% of the population if one of your mates turned up at your house in one and asked if you fancied going out for a spin you wouldn't turn to him and say 'nahhh, it's not as good as the old Gallardo, is it?'

[Veeayt]

It still is a dull looking thing, like Gallardo got obese. I'm absolutely a die-hard Lamborghini fan as well as Audi fan (wierdly I like the fact that Gallardos used to share interior bits with A4's), but their last two models just don't do anything for me.

[BrabusMog]

Looks are subjective - I think this looks great, I also really like the R8 but a guy I work with thinks both look st but loves his Kahn RRS! I'm sure there will be enough people who like it to buy it.

[Vocal Minority]

Antony Moxey said:

Rather amusing seeing comments both on here and on the programme itself about the new Lamborghini maybe being not quite that special. I reckon for probably 99% of the population if one of your mates turned up at your house in one and asked if you fancied going out for a spin you wouldn't turn to him and say 'nahhh, it's not as good as the old Gallardo, is it?'

The trouble with that comment is that it is a slightly facile over-simplification.

Lets put it this way, being good little yuppies who did what they were told, a lot of my colleagues aspired to an Aston martin. Fair enough. However, when I would say, 'not really my cup of tea' - firstly they would get surprisingly offended, then trot out the typical 'what, if someone offered to give you an Aston Martin you'd say no? - yeah right'.

Don't be so childish, of course I wouldn't say no. However, no one is offering me a free one. So the question is, would I buy one with my own money. No - there are other cars for the money I would choose instead.

Is that not what these people are saying - rather than the 'ewwww I don't even want to get in one' that you seem to have read it as.

[Antony Moxey]

Vocal Minority said:

Antony Moxey said:

Rather amusing seeing comments both on here and on the programme itself about the new Lamborghini maybe being not quite that special. I reckon for probably 99% of the population if one of your mates turned up at your house in one and asked if you fancied going out for a spin you wouldn't turn to him and say 'nahhh, it's not as good as the old Gallardo, is it?'

The trouble with that comment is that it is a slightly facile over-simplification.

Lets put it this way, being good little yuppies who did what they were told, a lot of my colleagues aspired to an Aston martin. Fair enough. However, when I would say, 'not really my cup of tea' - firstly they would get surprisingly offended, then trot out the typical 'what, if someone offered to give you an Aston Martin you'd say no? - yeah right'.

Don't be so childish, of course I wouldn't say no. However, no one is offering me a free one. So the question is, would I buy one with my own money. No - there are other cars for the money I would choose instead.

Is that not what these people are saying - rather than the 'ewwww I don't even want to get in one' that you seem to have read it as.

Talk about reading too much into something - I'm saying nothing of the sort. What I'm saying is for the majority of the population if a friend or relative turned up the Lamborghini that was on Top Gear the other night offering to take them for a spin round the block, they wouldn't turn it down because they didn't think the car was exciting enough.

[Vocal Minority]

Of course they wouldn't. But no one above is saying 'nah too boring full stop' are they? Its all relative.

[Shaw Tarse]

Three more years? http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s265/top-gear/news/...
Will the comments posted be the same then?

[Antony Moxey]

Vocal Minority said:

Of course they wouldn't. But no one above is saying 'nah too boring full stop' are they? Its all relative.

OK then, but there are comments that appear to agree with TG's verdict that perhaps it isn't all it could, or should, be. Hammond was distinctly underwhelmed - my point was that most people wouldn't be thinking that if someone turned up and offered them a spin round the block in one.

[irocfan]

Antony Moxey said:

my point was that most people wouldn't be thinking that if someone turned up and offered them a spin round the block in one.

which is fair enough - if you'd driven loads of the buggers though you may well say 'meh'

[Antony Moxey]

I doubt 'most people' have driven loads of them.

[JonRB]

Antony Moxey said:

K then, but there are comments that appear to agree with TG's verdict that perhaps it isn't all it could, or should, be. Hammond was distinctly underwhelmed - my point was that most people wouldn't be thinking that if someone turned up and offered them a spin round the block in one.

But that is fundamentally not the point he was making. He was (gasp) offering the consumer advice that *were you in the position to buy one* then you might not necessarily buy this over one of its rivals.

That's an absolute world away from whether one would accept a ride in one or not.

[JagLover]

Shaw Tarse said:

Three more years? http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s265/top-gear/news/...
Will the comments posted be the same then?

Great news if true.

The "specials" haven't been great for a while, but their normal episodes are often still very good. Take Sunday's for example it still felt fresh and funny.

As long as they can keep the quality as high as this why not 3 more years?, or more.

and yes SIARPC is rubbish, but that only makes it a 50 minute programme when you skip that bit.

[Antony Moxey]

JonRB said:

Antony Moxey said:

K then, but there are comments that appear to agree with TG's verdict that perhaps it isn't all it could, or should, be. Hammond was distinctly underwhelmed - my point was that most people wouldn't be thinking that if someone turned up and offered them a spin round the block in one.

But that is fundamentally not the point he was making. He was (gasp) offering the consumer advice that *were you in the position to buy one* then you might not necessarily buy this over one of its rivals.

That's an absolute world away from whether one would accept a ride in one or not.

Indeed, however there seemed to be a number on this thread agreeing with him, hence my comment. And it wasn't about whether you'd accept a ride in one, but rather whether you'd turn one down because you didn't think it was Lamborghini enough for you.

Whatever, I found it amusing, I'm obviously on my own with that one.

[johnxjsc1985]

Antony Moxey said:

Indeed, however there seemed to be a number on this thread agreeing with him, hence my comment. And it wasn't about whether you'd accept a ride in one, but rather whether you'd turn one down because you didn't think it was Lamborghini enough for you.

Whatever, I found it amusing, I'm obviously on my own with that one.

By any stretch of the imagination that Lamborghini is stunning with performance to match.
If someone comes knocking on my door with a set of keys I will bite their hands off.

[Chris_H]

Episode 2

Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May embark on a grand road trip across Australia's Northern Territory.

Tasked with picking a fast, luxurious GT for the trip, Clarkson chooses a BMW M6 Gran Coupe, Hammond a Bentley Continental GT V8 and May a Nissan GT-R, as the trio set out on an adventure that takes in crocodile-infested rivers, a race around a vast open-cast mine, an encounter with the world's longest lorries and the majestic scenery of one of the world's least-inhabited landscapes.

Their dusty endeavour concludes with an unusual challenge involving a farm, their cars and 4,000 cows. Also in this episode, Hollywood legend Kiefer Sutherland is the star in the Reasonably Priced Car.