Ghostbusters 3, hmmmm..
Discussion
downstairs said:
It never ceases to amaze me how precious and narrow-minded people are when faced with the prospect of remakes or reboots. There are good examples from the history of film, just as there are bad or cynical ones. No one dismissed The Magnificent Seven or Fistful Of Dollars as cynical remakes. No one seems to grumble about the new Bond films since the reboot with Casino Royale.
I suspect I might judge Ghostbusters on reviews and/or actually watching it.
I'm not at all precious about remakes or reboots. The people who scream (in all seriousness) about "raped childhoods" etc are pretty sad. I suspect I might judge Ghostbusters on reviews and/or actually watching it.
New films don't in any way impact on what went before - and if you don't like the look of the reboot - don't watch. I for example haven't seen the new Robocop or either of the rebooted Spiderman movies because I didn't like the look of them. I'll probably catch them at some point - picking them up in the bargain bin for a couple of quid.
On the face of it - this new film doesn't sound like a winning formula although i'm happy to be proven wrong. I'll give the new Ghostbusters movie as much of a chance as any other movie. It'll have to look pretty good for me to part with "night out at the cinema" money.
If it looks dodgy i'll probably wait until I can pick up the blu-ray for a fiver.
Agree, like you say it doesn't affect what has already been made, it is more of worrying it will be a missed opportunity when we all wanted the same team back for another outing.
Would have loved to see a film where it was transitioned to a new generation so there was continuity.
Not sure if anything can capture the magic of the original, GB 2 didn't really but it had the original cast so it was enough.
I would agree that women arent as funny as an average as men, but some are, Melissa MCarthy comes across quite well. I think if they dress them right and set up the characters right then maybe women could do geek quite well.
Ghostbusters has been remade before by Ivan Reitman with a different cast, anyone remember Evolution ? so many similarities it is untrue.
Would have loved to see a film where it was transitioned to a new generation so there was continuity.
Not sure if anything can capture the magic of the original, GB 2 didn't really but it had the original cast so it was enough.
I would agree that women arent as funny as an average as men, but some are, Melissa MCarthy comes across quite well. I think if they dress them right and set up the characters right then maybe women could do geek quite well.
Ghostbusters has been remade before by Ivan Reitman with a different cast, anyone remember Evolution ? so many similarities it is untrue.
Why even call it ghostbusters. The Sigourney Weaver character will have to be a male, then they'll surely have to reverse some other roles. No doubt the Rick Moranis character will still be a beta male. Wouldn't it be better to make a completely different ghost film for our time.
I'd like to see Tim & Eric and Zack Galifanakis do ghostbusters, that would be flipping funny.
I'd like to see Tim & Eric and Zack Galifanakis do ghostbusters, that would be flipping funny.
I don't think Ghostbusters would be all that if it came out of nowhere now, today. I liked it when I was fifteen but I doubt I've watched it all the way through again since. I suspect for a certain age of film-goer, the original film happened at the right time and combined the right elements of what was happening in films then, in the mid-eighties.
To young kids now it probably looks just as old and shonky and irrelevant today as a comedy from 1955 would have to us as teens in the eighties.
Ghostbusters 2 couldn't recapture the fun, and even the same cast looked disinterested.
Perhaps people can judge it as a new telling of a familiar tale and not make comparisons? That only leads to upset I think.
Oh, here's another reboot example: Evil Dead. I'm a massive fan of the first (two especially) films, but loved the recent version too. Totally different take on the bare story with different characters, different tone, different emphasis. Still an excellent horror film, but no longer the slapstick horror comedy of the first trilogy. Re-tooling from the same basic raw materials really can work.
To young kids now it probably looks just as old and shonky and irrelevant today as a comedy from 1955 would have to us as teens in the eighties.
Ghostbusters 2 couldn't recapture the fun, and even the same cast looked disinterested.
Perhaps people can judge it as a new telling of a familiar tale and not make comparisons? That only leads to upset I think.
Oh, here's another reboot example: Evil Dead. I'm a massive fan of the first (two especially) films, but loved the recent version too. Totally different take on the bare story with different characters, different tone, different emphasis. Still an excellent horror film, but no longer the slapstick horror comedy of the first trilogy. Re-tooling from the same basic raw materials really can work.
Silverbullet767 said:
durbster said:
It's so wonderful to see Pistonheads has such
t and all about periods and body insecurity. Like it's 1976.I don't think anyone would argue that funny women are less common than funny blokes but that means absolutely nothing here. Actors are just one part of many things that make a funny film.
There are many reasons to expect this film not to work but simply having women in it isn't one of them.
will the new Ghostbusters smoke? every other scene in the first one they were smoking. could you imagine the uproar now.
even james bond doesn't smoke anymore.
running such lines as
do you have a match
I use a lighter
better still
until they go wrong
exactly
how is james bond meant to know that his taxi driver wont kill him now, he cant ask him in code for a light.
even james bond doesn't smoke anymore.
running such lines as
do you have a match
I use a lighter
better still
until they go wrong
exactly
how is james bond meant to know that his taxi driver wont kill him now, he cant ask him in code for a light.
Ghostbusters would still be loved if it came out today, it's a classic. Classics endure, comedies from he 50's and earlier still sell because they are equally as good, so many to choose from, Ladykillers etc.
Seems a bit strange to 'reboot' something and leave out all the stuff that made the original a classic. But we'll see, it gets done all the time, like Robocop. Considering what is at stake...millions of dollars, you'd think the suits in charge would ensure the writing, performances and chemistry all work. Yet Hollywood churn out turd after turd continually. The crime is when suits go for the lowest common denominator (making new Robocop a PG) and cash in on a name knowingly when the remake/reboot has little to connect it with the values of the original.
Seems a bit strange to 'reboot' something and leave out all the stuff that made the original a classic. But we'll see, it gets done all the time, like Robocop. Considering what is at stake...millions of dollars, you'd think the suits in charge would ensure the writing, performances and chemistry all work. Yet Hollywood churn out turd after turd continually.
The crime is when suits go for the lowest common denominator (making new Robocop a PG) and cash in on a name knowingly when the remake/reboot has little to connect it with the values of the original.Halb said:
The crime is when suits go for the lowest common denominator (making new Robocop a PG) and cash in on a name knowingly when the remake/reboot has little to connect it with the values of the original.
Like the remake of Karate Kid.Not only did it not feature either of the original characters of Daniel or Mr Miyagi - it didn't even feature Karate.....!
the problem I have is that movies are meant to be made for escapism, Ghostbusters is a classic example. Put it on and go into an imaginary world for 2 hours. The attention to detail, the plot, the attitude of the characters was immense, there was real love for what they did and it struck big. Just fling on the Ghostbusters theme song at a party or a nightclub and the place goes mental.
This is just sony going, hmmm we can make a quick buck from this, the first movie was that good it doesn't matter if this is st, people will go to see it.
that to me is soulless and not what films are about. They know that come release no matter how good or bad it is, it will top box office ratings because the first one was a classic. its very disrespectful to the producers of the original and the fans.
This is just sony going, hmmm we can make a quick buck from this, the first movie was that good it doesn't matter if this is s
t, people will go to see it.that to me is soulless and not what films are about. They know that come release no matter how good or bad it is, it will top box office ratings because the first one was a classic. its very disrespectful to the producers of the original and the fans.
Halb said:
moanthebairns said:
Halb said:
BrassMan said:
If it does work, it may be the first successful reboot.
Put them in a Stagea?
Batman Begins was successful. So was Casino Royale, Man of Steel etc.Put them in a Stagea?
t. BrassMan said:
Halb said:
moanthebairns said:
Halb said:
BrassMan said:
If it does work, it may be the first successful reboot.
Put them in a Stagea?
Batman Begins was successful. So was Casino Royale, Man of Steel etc.Put them in a Stagea?
t. "Casino Royale reboots the series, establishing a new timeline and narrative framework not meant to precede or succeed any previous Bond film,"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale_%28200...
Being an established character doesn't automatically mean a successful reboot. The first Superman reboot was a failure, the second a success.
Perhaps I'm looking back at things with rose tinted specs but a film written with passion and a genuinely love and humour will always trump a film which is basically a collection of scenes assembled in order to make money. This can only be the latter whereas I feel the original Ghostbusters was very much the former.
Moonhawk said:
Are there any non-chick flick movies with an all female main cast that have been decent.
I can't think of a single one.
edit: maybe Sister Act - it was ok, but not in the same league as the original Ghostbusters.
Mean Girls is fantastic.I can't think of a single one.
edit: maybe Sister Act - it was ok, but not in the same league as the original Ghostbusters.
Edited by Moonhawk on Wednesday 28th January 11:14
The original GB is very much of its time, that type of humour doesn't really happen now, it's like the first Back to the Future. Even with the original casts and production teams they were never really able to recreate that magic for the sequels.
I'm looking forward to the new one as they have to know that they're facing such hostility that they might be able to pull something unexpected.
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