James Bond: Spectre
Discussion
highway said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Um, revenge act against M for betraying him after he was captured by the Chinese or Russians or Martians or someone else.
He managed to plan an attack years in advance knowing exactly where everyone would be and perfect timings to the second, planning his own capture through a complex web of a Shanghai assassination and Macau Casino contacts, forcing MI6 to change location after bombing their HQ to a place he expected them to move to, knowing that they would plug his laptop into their system so his pre-written code on the laptop could infiltrate their network and turn off the security to the cell he knew they would construct for him, where they would construct it, it's power/security systems and that he would be held in it and then covering his escape using a tube train crashing through an abandoned tunnel at exactly the right moment to block off his pursuer who he knew would be chasing him, all to put himself in the position to kill M which if he was so clever he could have done in the first few minutes, you know, b
ks.
Bang on. Did they buy the set for the villains cell from the producers of the Avengers? Over rated. I could envisage Mendes waiting for the light to be @just right@ for Bond sailing into the casino on a gondola. Pretentious tosh.He managed to plan an attack years in advance knowing exactly where everyone would be and perfect timings to the second, planning his own capture through a complex web of a Shanghai assassination and Macau Casino contacts, forcing MI6 to change location after bombing their HQ to a place he expected them to move to, knowing that they would plug his laptop into their system so his pre-written code on the laptop could infiltrate their network and turn off the security to the cell he knew they would construct for him, where they would construct it, it's power/security systems and that he would be held in it and then covering his escape using a tube train crashing through an abandoned tunnel at exactly the right moment to block off his pursuer who he knew would be chasing him, all to put himself in the position to kill M which if he was so clever he could have done in the first few minutes, you know, b
ks.And there was I watching Moonraker the other day thinking about how far fetched the premise was that Drax would risk discovery by stealing a shuttle when he ought to have been able to knock another one up in his factory...
Regarding the pisspoor Skyfall. The story I heard, from a fairly good source, was that , in keeping with the 50th anniversary theme and the reappearance of the Aston Martin etc, the groundskeeper was slated to be played by Sean Connery - thus creating a fantastic nostalgia fest as Old Bond and New Bond fought together to bring down the bad guys. Then he dropped out at the last minute, miserable old sod that he is, and ruined all the carefully laid plans
krunchkin said:
Regarding the pisspoor Skyfall. The story I heard, from a fairly good source, was that , in keeping with the 50th anniversary theme and the reappearance of the Aston Martin etc, the groundskeeper was slated to be played by Sean Connery - thus creating a fantastic nostalgia fest as Old Bond and New Bond fought together to bring down the bad guys. Then he dropped out at the last minute, miserable old sod that he is, and ruined all the carefully laid plans
is that to suggest that the whole steaming pile of sh*te plot was based on some tacky cameo?
rubystone said:
Find it difficult to disagree with this. But fundamentally we are discussing one element of the plot...the big ask of the audience to accept the fact that everything had been planned by Silva years in advance...
And there was I watching Moonraker the other day thinking about how far fetched the premise was that Drax would risk discovery by stealing a shuttle when he ought to have been able to knock another one up in his factory...
Moonraker is a terrible Bond film though, I've had the boxset last xmas, with Skyfall as well. I watched it once as I worked my way through it just to watch them all. I've not touched the DVD since and never will. And there was I watching Moonraker the other day thinking about how far fetched the premise was that Drax would risk discovery by stealing a shuttle when he ought to have been able to knock another one up in his factory...
DanielSan said:
Moonraker is a terrible Bond film though, I've had the boxset last xmas, with Skyfall as well. I watched it once as I worked my way through it just to watch them all. I've not touched the DVD since and never will.
I think Lonsdale is one of the best Bond villains though, despite the shonky plot...and to think...we have FYEO Octopussy and AVTAK to endure on ITV over the next few weeks....anything after TMWTGG was pretty poor IMHO.I wonder if it would interest Chris Nolan?
Bond sets out on his toughest mission yet. Discovering why a network of household name multi nationals are paying less in tax than a Somalian window cleaner. The threat to the UK is grave. The evil GooAppBucks have bought political favour across the globe and their products are used by everyone. Can 007 use witty one liners, casual sex and his own product placement to bring the monster down?
Bond sets out on his toughest mission yet. Discovering why a network of household name multi nationals are paying less in tax than a Somalian window cleaner. The threat to the UK is grave. The evil GooAppBucks have bought political favour across the globe and their products are used by everyone. Can 007 use witty one liners, casual sex and his own product placement to bring the monster down?
Scuffers said:
krunchkin said:
Regarding the pisspoor Skyfall. The story I heard, from a fairly good source, was that , in keeping with the 50th anniversary theme and the reappearance of the Aston Martin etc, the groundskeeper was slated to be played by Sean Connery - thus creating a fantastic nostalgia fest as Old Bond and New Bond fought together to bring down the bad guys. Then he dropped out at the last minute, miserable old sod that he is, and ruined all the carefully laid plans
is that to suggest that the whole steaming pile of sh*te plot was based on some tacky cameo?SpeckledJim said:
The Craig films have been pants. In spite of him, not because of him.
Who writes the modern Batman stuff? Give him a go.
Yeah, bring back Roger Moore....under cover in Venice, swanning around in a gondola that coverts in to a hovercraft. I thought I was watching a documentary about spies at one point.Who writes the modern Batman stuff? Give him a go.
Crossflow Kid said:
SpeckledJim said:
The Craig films have been pants. In spite of him, not because of him.
Who writes the modern Batman stuff? Give him a go.
Yeah, bring back Roger Moore....under cover in Venice, swanning around in a gondola that coverts in to a hovercraft. I thought I was watching a documentary about spies at one point.Who writes the modern Batman stuff? Give him a go.
sparkythecat said:
Spectre - Does this mean the return of Ernst Stavro Blofeld?
Blofeld was a great villain
Of the 4 actors who previously played him only Max Von Sydow is still alive and he's now 85 So who's going to play him now?
Jo Brand?Blofeld was a great villain
Of the 4 actors who previously played him only Max Von Sydow is still alive and he's now 85 So who's going to play him now?
David Walliams?
That really irritating guy who played Moriarty in Sherlock?
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