James Bond: Spectre

[glazbagun]

I'd actually like Swann to run off with Q, with his closer age difference, two cats, mortgage and steady job.

[Halb]

Civpilot said:

Enjoyed Quantum of Solace more (seriously! At least with Quantum you can double hit it with Casino and it makes perfect sense)

I agree. CR and QoS will be pleasurable viewings in the future, as a combo. I won't be bothering with Skyfall. But I shall probably watch Spectre when it comes on the telly.

And yeah, SW7 trailer was the best thing of the night.

[Halb]

Pesty said:

Found it. Not quite as I remembered he does as for some clips(tut) for his uzi, no new york re loads.
Nice touches are the electrocution and the kick to the face it's well established through the film that he's a psyco
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lj-FvdszohE

He's one solid gold of a boss, that's for sure. Blofeld never killed his own army.

SpudLink said:

I always thought Zorin was machine gunning his men to ensure none escaped the mine. No loose ends, as the movie bad guys say. His psychotic enjoyment was just a bonus.

Bit loopy to want to kill all his own men.

[Ayahuasca]

Pierce Brosnan's The Tailor of Panama is one of the best Bond movies, and it doesn't even feature Bond. Roger Ebert's review said 'a nasty real life Bond character with no gadgets and no scruples'. That's how I think he should be played.

[grumbledoak]

I didn't like Casino Royale much so I left Bond there until yesterday. I liked it. Probably a 7.5 rather than the 8 I gave it on the other films thread, but it was an enjoyable two and a half hours: the opening scene was fantastic, the Aston was beautiful, Craig didn't attempt any humour, the plot was positively plausible by Bond standards. I may revisit some of his others.

[Halb]

Ayahuasca said:

Pierce Brosnan's The Tailor of Panama is one of the best Bond movies, and it doesn't even feature Bond. Roger Ebert's review said 'a nasty real life Bond character with no gadgets and no scruples'. That's how I think he should be played.

I enjoyed that film.
I also enjoyed Three Days of the COndor. That is more what Bond sould be like for me. Someone who can get really creative. I also like Tinker, Tailor (series not film) and other more 'real' spy stories.

[salguod]

I saw it this afternoon. I quite liked it despite parts of it being slightly predictable.

However, as the Daniel Craig ones are still being told as prequels to Dr No, it irks me a wee bit that there is some sloppiness in the storytelling that results in anomalies or parts that suggest these took place AFTER the rest of the films (ignoring obvious things like them being made in different decades/gadgets etc). This was true with the other 3 Craig films too.

The one part of the storyline that I didn't really like was the apparent link between Bond and Blofeld being 'adopted brothers'. It constantly reminded me of Austin Powers and Dr Evil.

The role that Moriarty played (couldn't convince myself that he was C given the similarities in role to that in Sherlock) was good but don't quite think it added much to the film. The outcome and link was a bit obvious.

Overall it is probably one of the most pretty in terms of cinematography. There were some scenes that I would have taken a still of and hung it on the wall (but maybe that is just me). I would happily go and watch it again.

[Major Fallout]

Just watched it and I'm going to have nightmares now.

[Halb]

salguod said:

The one part of the storyline that I didn't really like was the apparent link between Bond and Blofeld being 'adopted brothers'. It constantly reminded me of Austin Powers and Dr Evil.

fk. Now you've pointed that out, it's all I'll think of.
just what the fkity was Mendes thinking?

[RegMolehusband]

I'm pleased not to be as sophisticated and intelligent as some of you guys up above so that I can watch Spectre for the second time in a week (albeit to take my step daughter who missed out last week) and enjoy its brilliant action and cinematography that's a credit to the hundreds of talented people involved in its production.

[hairykrishna]

I thought some of the big set piece scenes weren't shot that brilliantly. The helicopter bit in particular. They somehow contrived to make it look like they were faking some of the crazy acrobatic shots despite forking out for Chuck Aaron and his crazy helicopter. Similarly bits of the car chase looked like a cartoon.

I felt it was a pretty good film overall though.

[Zod]

Ayahuasca said:

6/10 very disappointing. Down there with the worst.

FFS tell an ORIGINAL story!

Far to many obvious references to previous Bond films.

The fight on the train with the giant baddie - Russian with Love and Spy who Loved Me. Even one of the fight moves - holding the ceiling and two footed kick was a reference. Half expecting Bond to grab a lamp and electrocute the baddies metal teeth.

Baddie lair in crater - You Only Live Twice

White cat - ditto

Hall of mirrors with images of Bond - Man with the Golden Gun

Mountaintop clinic - OHMSS

Skiing through an alpine barn during snow chase - For Your Eyes Only [there was no skiing]

Stapped to a high tech torture machine - Goldfinger

Aston ejection seat - Goldfinger

Err, those references were all deliberate!

I enjoyed it. There are too many people who just seem to want to be disappointed so that they can post about it.

[HTP99]

Myself and the wife saw it on Friday; both of us thoroughly enjoyed it and the wife isn't a particularly big Bond fan, I actually liked the references to previous Bond films.

The time flew by; a defimate 9 out of 10 for me.

[Ayahuasca]

Zod said:

Err, those references were all deliberate!

I enjoyed it. There are too many people who just seem to want to be disappointed so that they can post about it.

Obviously they were deliberate. But they were obvious. And pointless. And unoriginal. And distracting from the story.
And very lazy.

Another one - characters from previous films shown in the title sequence - lifted from OHMS.

[coppice]

It just showed that the absolutely excellent Skyfall was a one off in the Mendes era. I enjoyed Spectre more than my OH but it was just Bond by numbers. Car chase risible , aeroplane chase worse and bad mistake to take M Q and Ms MP put of the office.Lighting interesting - very early 60s;also a first for a Bond film- the political subtext re surveillance society .

Dr No is still the best Bond film (then From Russia, OHMSS and Skyfall) but at least Craig is a plausible Bond - far more so than the buffoon Roger Moore.

[toon10]

Zod said:

Ayahuasca said:

6/10 very disappointing. Down there with the worst.

FFS tell an ORIGINAL story!

Far to many obvious references to previous Bond films.

The fight on the train with the giant baddie - Russian with Love and Spy who Loved Me. Even one of the fight moves - holding the ceiling and two footed kick was a reference. Half expecting Bond to grab a lamp and electrocute the baddies metal teeth.

Baddie lair in crater - You Only Live Twice

White cat - ditto

Hall of mirrors with images of Bond - Man with the Golden Gun

Mountaintop clinic - OHMSS

Skiing through an alpine barn during snow chase - For Your Eyes Only [there was no skiing]

Stapped to a high tech torture machine - Goldfinger

Aston ejection seat - Goldfinger

Err, those references were all deliberate!

I enjoyed it. There are too many people who just seem to want to be disappointed so that they can post about it.

I thought the nods to previous Bond movies were the best part of this film. As a stand alone movie, it's not up there with the best of Bond but I did enjoy all the above scenes. We saw the white cat for a reason, it was the re-introduciton of a previous Bond villain, complete with back story as to how he got his scar

[Buzz word]

rubystone said:

GetCarter said:

He has a contract to do another… though I understand why people feel this felt like an end.

It was very silly. Like all Bond films. I was waiting for a plane, so it was better than an airport lounge.

The last Craig movie will have some great hooks...here's my suggestion for a plot. Bond comes out of retirement to do one more job for M to eradicate Blofeld who is using an oil rig to launch a laser to destroy targets in other countries. He despatches Blofeld and then retires, marries Swann and takes her off on honeymoon iin the Riviera. They stop by the side of the road, Blofeld and his cronies drive by and machine gun their Aston. Swann dies in Bond's arms.

I guess we have all the time in the world to see what happens though.

I really expected that as the ending.

[RDMcG]

Garbage (and I like James Bond). They missed the fruit stand being knocked down in a chase and the two guys running along a train roof as a bridge approached, but they got every other cliche.

Three building complexes blown up
two helicopter stunts.
one plane stunt
one car crash
two women
martinis
talking killer scene...will the ceptured Bond scape after the villain explains his evil plans?..duh (You, know.." Mr Bond, I expect you to die"..yet again)
one maiden in distress scene
Bond in trouble at the office scene.
Complementaty Darth Vader I am your father stuff

Dull car chase, gadgets with obsolete switch gear in my view]

I will not reveal the plot because there is no plat at all. If Goldfinger was a good film, this is more a trip to the proctologist]..........

2/10

[audidoody]

Ayahuasca said:

Obviously they were deliberate. But they were obvious. And pointless. And unoriginal. And distracting from the story.
And very lazy.

Another one - characters from previous films shown in the title sequence - lifted from OHMS.

I enjoyed them, Especially the rerun of the scene where Bond and Honey Ryder are introduced at dinner to Dr No.

[tobinen]

Watched it last night and I have avoided this thread until now.

I am fairly disappointed with it but I went in not expecting much. Perhaps if I was all excited I would be even more disappointed. Better than the ridiculous script of Skyfail but I preferred QoS and CR by quite a margin

I can't pin down why I thought it was very average but in our group of four we all came away with a 'hmm'.

If Craig does a 5th I will still watch it simply because I like the Bond films, but maybe a change of director would help?