James Bond: Spectre

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I often finish watching a film and wonder if there are a few minutes of film left on the cutting room floor that would have explained the plot holes.
Sometimes these appear in DVD extras or Director's Cut, but normally we are left thinking '"that's just rubbish".

[RegMolehusband]

daddy cool said:

Or the actors that presumably read the scripts thousands of times? Doesnt someone put their hand up early on and say "whooah, this is bks - you'll need to rewrite x & y"...

Edited by daddy cool on Thursday 18th February 12:11

In the Skyfall house, the bearded bloke hands Bond a double barreled shotgun and says something like "This was your father's hunting rifle". WTF? Why doesn't somebody pipe up at that point?

And another one that got me was in The Imitation Game when Cumberbatch uses the word "smart" or "smarter" to mean clever. I almost said FFS out loud in the cinema! They just wouldn't have used that terms in the forties except to mean nicely dressed. The English actors let it go. That's what having an American script writer does for you.

[Disastrous]

RegMolehusband said:

daddy cool said:

Or the actors that presumably read the scripts thousands of times? Doesnt someone put their hand up early on and say "whooah, this is bks - you'll need to rewrite x & y"...

Edited by daddy cool on Thursday 18th February 12:11

In the Skyfall house, the bearded bloke hands Bond a double barreled shotgun and says something like "This was your father's hunting rifle". WTF? Why doesn't somebody pipe up at that point?

And say what?

It's an Anderson Wheeler Double Rifle:

http://www.andersonwheeler.co.uk/gunroom/double-ri...

[Halb]

RegMolehusband said:

And another one that got me was in The Imitation Game when Cumberbatch uses the word "smart" or "smarter" to mean clever. I almost said FFS out loud in the cinema! They just wouldn't have used that terms in the forties except to mean nicely dressed. The English actors let it go. That's what having an American script writer does for you.

Does it make you mad?

[RichB]

Halb said:

RegMolehusband said:

And another one that got me was in The Imitation Game when Cumberbatch uses the word "smart" or "smarter" to mean clever. I almost said FFS out loud in the cinema! They just wouldn't have used that terms in the forties except to mean nicely dressed. The English actors let it go. That's what having an American script writer does for you.

Does it make you mad?

Actually I think in the forties he would have been angry, mad had a different meaning

[Halb]

RichB said:

Halb said:

RegMolehusband said:

And another one that got me was in The Imitation Game when Cumberbatch uses the word "smart" or "smarter" to mean clever. I almost said FFS out loud in the cinema! They just wouldn't have used that terms in the forties except to mean nicely dressed. The English actors let it go. That's what having an American script writer does for you.

Does it make you mad?

Actually I think in the forties he would have been angry, mad had a different meaning

Whoossh.

[RegMolehusband]

Disastrous said:

And say what?

It's an Anderson Wheeler Double Rifle:

http://www.andersonwheeler.co.uk/gunroom/double-ri...

Well I've never heard of one of those - it looked like a shotgun to me but I am clearly wrong

[Disastrous]

RegMolehusband said:

Disastrous said:

And say what?

It's an Anderson Wheeler Double Rifle:

http://www.andersonwheeler.co.uk/gunroom/double-ri...

Well I've never heard of one of those - it looked like a shotgun to me but I am clearly wrong

Possibly the exact conversation that was played out in the script-edit meeting

[RichB]

Halb said:

RichB said:

Halb said:

RegMolehusband said:

And another one that got me was in The Imitation Game when Cumberbatch uses the word "smart" or "smarter" to mean clever. I almost said FFS out loud in the cinema! They just wouldn't have used that terms in the forties except to mean nicely dressed. The English actors let it go. That's what having an American script writer does for you.

Does it make you mad?

Actually I think in the forties he would have been angry, mad had a different meaning

Whoossh.

If you say so.

[Disastrous]

RichB said:

Halb said:

RichB said:

Halb said:

RegMolehusband said:

And another one that got me was in The Imitation Game when Cumberbatch uses the word "smart" or "smarter" to mean clever. I almost said FFS out loud in the cinema! They just wouldn't have used that terms in the forties except to mean nicely dressed. The English actors let it go. That's what having an American script writer does for you.

Does it make you mad?

Actually I think in the forties he would have been angry, mad had a different meaning

Whoossh.

If you say so.

If not, you basically repeated the exact joke he made...

[Halb]

RichB said:

Halb said:

RichB said:

Halb said:

RegMolehusband said:

And another one that got me was in The Imitation Game when Cumberbatch uses the word "smart" or "smarter" to mean clever. I almost said FFS out loud in the cinema! They just wouldn't have used that terms in the forties except to mean nicely dressed. The English actors let it go. That's what having an American script writer does for you.

Does it make you mad?

Actually I think in the forties he would have been angry, mad had a different meaning

Whoossh.

If you say so.

Yes, because that was the whole point of me posting what I did


Parrot for one.

[Halb]

Disastrous said:

RichB said:

Halb said:

RichB said:

Halb said:

RegMolehusband said:

And another one that got me was in The Imitation Game when Cumberbatch uses the word "smart" or "smarter" to mean clever. I almost said FFS out loud in the cinema! They just wouldn't have used that terms in the forties except to mean nicely dressed. The English actors let it go. That's what having an American script writer does for you.

Does it make you mad?

Actually I think in the forties he would have been angry, mad had a different meaning

Whoossh.

If you say so.

If not, you basically repeated the exact joke he made...

Basically!

Mad in UK english today still doesn't mean angry, I have friends who get irritated when they hear it, as an 'Americanism', I don't get irritated, but it just doesn't make sense to me.
I do notice a lot of AMericanism in Bond films though. The one that does irritate me is elevator instead of lift.

[coppice]

Met with (met), inside of (inside) , co-worker (colleague ) , train station (railway station ) ,get go(start) , two time (twice), spin up (spin ) etc - no idea if they appear in the crappy Spectre but they annoy the hell out of me . If not quite as much as the cliche drenched , anachronistically scripted and simplistic Imitation Game which should have been excellent but was beyond appalling.

[grumpyscot]

V8covin said:

Well,got about half way thru and had enough.The worst Bond film by a country mile and one of the most boring films I've seen in a long time.
If this is the best they can come up with maybe it's time 007 was retired

Have to agree there. Film was totally crap - I had better viewing watching repeats of the Bourne series!

[Halb]

I like parts of Borne, the intrigue, the conspiracy, but I do not rate Matt Damon, and I find the fights utterly fking tedious. Ultimately it doesn't warrant repeat viewings. I did like Jeremey Renner.

I love the spy genre. the 'real' and the 'superspy'. I cannot think of a current version in the 'superspy' bracket that appeals to me right now.

[daddy cool]

Halb said:

and I find the fights utterly fking tedious.

Some of the extended fights did get a bit superhero/Bruce Lee, but in the first film i love some of the quick instinctive fights - eg when he disarms the two cops in the park without knowing he can do that, or in the embassy.

[Halb]

daddy cool said:

Some of the extended fights did get a bit superhero/Bruce Lee, but in the first film i love some of the quick instinctive fights - eg when he disarms the two cops in the park without knowing he can do that, or in the embassy.

I recall liking the embassy, I may have to review. The one that keeps popping into my head and irritating me is the sequel? When a bloke is in a flat and he uses a towel to inflict damage...it all gets very Jackie Chan...ergh.

[RichB]

Halb said:

I do notice a lot of AMericanism in Bond films though. The one that does irritate me is elevator instead of lift.

Get instead of have (or indeed, please have) "Can I get a long tall skinny macchiato with a vanilla syrup and extra shot?" "Certainly sir but it's my job to get it for you." vs "Can I please have a cup of tea, milk no sugar?" Irritates me but I guess it's the creeping bdisation of our language being caused by globalised media.

[lemmingjames]

Disastrous said:

RegMolehusband said:

daddy cool said:

Or the actors that presumably read the scripts thousands of times? Doesnt someone put their hand up early on and say "whooah, this is bks - you'll need to rewrite x & y"...

Edited by daddy cool on Thursday 18th February 12:11

In the Skyfall house, the bearded bloke hands Bond a double barreled shotgun and says something like "This was your father's hunting rifle". WTF? Why doesn't somebody pipe up at that point?

And say what?

It's an Anderson Wheeler Double Rifle:

http://www.andersonwheeler.co.uk/gunroom/double-ri...

This isnt your daddies shotgun cowboy

[Halb]

RichB said:

et instead of have (or indeed, please have) "Can I get a long tall skinny macchiato with a vanilla syrup and extra shot?" "Certainly sir but it's my job to get it for you." vs "Can I please have a cup of tea, milk no sugar?" Irritates me but I guess it's the creeping bdisation of our language being caused by globalised media.

The one that also really irritates me is, 'can I write you', instead of, 'can I write to you.'
Can you write me what, a sonnet?
Also people keep saying they're pissed....been drinking have we sir?