James Bond: Spectre
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First official footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYKB75aIHWE
Rumour has it, Spectre will be a 2 part movie.
Rumour has it, Spectre will be a 2 part movie.
Synopsis said:
A cryptic message from Bond’s past sends him on a trail to uncover a sinister organization. While M battles political forces to keep the secret service alive, Bond peels back the layers of deceit to reveal the terrible truth behind SPECTRE.
"A cryptic message from Bond’s past sends him on a trail to uncover a sinister organization. While M battles political forces to keep the secret service alive, Bond peels back the layers of deceit to reveal the terrible truth behind SPECTRE."
Bond previously went on a sight seeing trip with M to see his folks in Scotland. He undertook the drive in an Aston Martin that was the pone used in Goldfinger. As the Aston Martin was then reissued to him when he went to scrubberlands in Thunderball it suggests Bonds memory may be playing tricks with him.
Honestly trying to exolain away the timey wimey stuff in Dr Who is easier than trying to explain the timeline of James Bond.
Bond previously went on a sight seeing trip with M to see his folks in Scotland. He undertook the drive in an Aston Martin that was the pone used in Goldfinger. As the Aston Martin was then reissued to him when he went to scrubberlands in Thunderball it suggests Bonds memory may be playing tricks with him.
Honestly trying to exolain away the timey wimey stuff in Dr Who is easier than trying to explain the timeline of James Bond.
t as Skyfail one would hope. Here's hoping.Max_Torque said:
Too Silly! Lets have a Casino Royale style plot, that is just believable enough!
(not involving "computers that can hack into Mi5 and somehow make their Air Conditioning blow up" etc)
Quite, or have Mr Big Brains Lord Of All Things IT; Q, plug the laptop of the world's best cyber ciminal into the M15 network (not involving "computers that can hack into Mi5 and somehow make their Air Conditioning blow up" etc)
Mr_Yogi said:
Max_Torque said:
Too Silly! Lets have a Casino Royale style plot, that is just believable enough!
(not involving "computers that can hack into Mi5 and somehow make their Air Conditioning blow up" etc)
Quite, or have Mr Big Brains Lord Of All Things IT; Q, plug the laptop of the world's best cyber ciminal into the M15 network (not involving "computers that can hack into Mi5 and somehow make their Air Conditioning blow up" etc)
yes, we have had weak plots/films before, but those two were shockingly bad.
tobinen said:
OTOH, I quite liked QoS. I liked the harder, rougher Bond. I was hoping that Skyfail would continue on from QoS and develop the Quantum Organisation
the problem I had with it was the total lack of cohesion in the plot, mixed with extremely disjointed screenplay.seriously, what was the plot?
tobinen said:
OTOH, I quite liked QoS. I liked the harder, rougher Bond. I was hoping that Skyfail would continue on from QoS and develop the Quantum Organisation as the new Spectre but instead we saw a weak plot with holes about a rogue agent wanting revenge. Excellent visually though.
I am annoyed with them that they left the whole Quantum organisation story hanging. They could easily have turned it into SPECTRE. Yes, they rushed the second half of QoS, thanks to the writers' strike, but the first half was great.Scuffers said:
the problem I had with it was the total lack of cohesion in the plot, mixed with extremely disjointed screenplay.
seriously, what was the plot?
It was lost in the writers strike, it was never meant to be a direct follow on from Casino Royale but the only people allowed to finish the script were director Marc Forster and star Daniel Craig. So they did, they have even admitted they weren't good at it. Lose story of water blackmail in South America pasted over with big set piece explosions and stunts. - http://collider.com/daniel-craig-quantum-of-solace...seriously, what was the plot?
Ps I hated the car chase scene at the beginning. Fast cuts and edits do not an action film make. /yoda
Edited by FourWheelDrift on Friday 13th February 15:16
FourWheelDrift said:
Scuffers said:
the problem I had with it was the total lack of cohesion in the plot, mixed with extremely disjointed screenplay.
seriously, what was the plot?
It was lost in the writers strike, it was never meant to be a direct follow on from Casino Royale but the only people allowed to finish the script were director Marc Forster and star Daniel Craig. So they did, they have even admitted they weren't good at it. Lose story of water blackmail in South America pasted over with big set piece explosions and stunts. - http://collider.com/daniel-craig-quantum-of-solace...seriously, what was the plot?
Ps I hated the car chase scene at the beginning. Fast cuts and edits do not an action film make. /yoda
Edited by FourWheelDrift on Friday 13th February 15:16
I don't know how a single £ gets spent on anything before the plot (500 words tops) is totally signed-off, and the script (5-10,000 words?) is basically in one piece.
I can see that the script will evolve (no plan ever survived first contact with the enemy) but to go from 'we're making a movie' to 'we're making a movie and we've no idea how to finish it' in the space of one writer's walk-out is a total mystery to me.
Who let them start without knowing how to finish!? £50,000,000 on a film that was 3 years in the planning and at the end doesn't make sense.
budfox said:
It will be garbage. Just like Skyfall, just like Qantum of Solace. Proper Bond films died when the closing credits of Goldeneye rolled.
to be fair, Casino Royale was OK IMHO, I was really looking forward to QOS as the follow on, only to be presented with a steaming pile of ****Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff