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Shakermaker

11,317 posts

100 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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It has only just clicked that they didn't actually sell the Maserati... I wasn't really paying much attention to the episode at the time.

What I may have missed, or wasn't made clear, is why the car was adapted in the first place, at such huge expense, to give just a 30 mile range and crap performance?

rgw2012

598 posts

143 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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Not going to bother watching this anymore - it used to be a programme about what a home mechanic might be able to do, then it went beyond that with all the special equipment they used to use (due to being sponsored eg TerraClean). They finally twigged that people were pissed off that the labour expended was never factored into their so called profit - now they mention the time spent so you can see a profit was never possible; however it has gone way beyond what a home mechanic could reasonably achieve in their garage plus it seems to be focussed on pre-planned builds (especially the AMG tribute car and the Chevy Luv truck for the brewing company) where being a wheeler dealer/ home based spanner turner is of no relevance at all. As far as I'm concerned they are a pair of wkers who have now succumbed to the American programming format with over use of poor acting skills in the heavily scripted nonsense so it has completely jumped the shark for me.

Hainey

4,381 posts

200 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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rgw2012 said:
Not going to bother watching this anymore - it used to be a programme about what a home mechanic might be able to do, then it went beyond that with all the special equipment they used to use (due to being sponsored eg TerraClean). They finally twigged that people were pissed off that the labour expended was never factored into their so called profit - now they mention the time spent so you can see a profit was never possible; however it has gone way beyond what a home mechanic could reasonably achieve in their garage plus it seems to be focussed on pre-planned builds (especially the AMG tribute car and the Chevy Luv truck for the brewing company) where being a wheeler dealer/ home based spanner turner is of no relevance at all. As far as I'm concerned they are a pair of wkers who have now succumbed to the American programming format with over use of poor acting skills in the heavily scripted nonsense so it has completely jumped the shark for me.
Yes that's all well and good but tell us what you really think.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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rgw2012 said:
Not going to bother watching this anymore - it used to be a programme about what a home mechanic might be able to do, then it went beyond that with all the special equipment they used to use (due to being sponsored eg TerraClean). They finally twigged that people were pissed off that the labour expended was never factored into their so called profit - now they mention the time spent so you can see a profit was never possible; however it has gone way beyond what a home mechanic could reasonably achieve in their garage plus it seems to be focussed on pre-planned builds (especially the AMG tribute car and the Chevy Luv truck for the brewing company) where being a wheeler dealer/ home based spanner turner is of no relevance at all. As far as I'm concerned they are a pair of wkers who have now succumbed to the American programming format with over use of poor acting skills in the heavily scripted nonsense so it has completely jumped the shark for me.
last nights episode pretty much reflects your post a Masserati Bi turbo Electrified which cost them $22,000 to do and 57 hours labour.
I loved the early stuff and I think a lot of the long running Car shows have run out of ideas.
I sometimes think its the production companies who get fed up before the viewers and abandon the original formats before they are actually too stale.

rgw2012

598 posts

143 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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Hainey said:
Yes that's all well and good but tell us what you really think.
Yes, on reflection maybe I was too ambiguous soapboxbeer

pingu393

7,804 posts

205 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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It's not been about the home mechanic making a profit for about five years.

It's now about showing you something different and trying to inspire you to think "outside the box". Most of the things can be attempted by competent DIYers, and you can pay for the the stuff that can't - but at least you know it exists.

I think they are wrong even suggesting that a profit is possible in a lot of cases. In reality, it is the pleasure that can be had in creating the engineering achievement that they should be selling - but most would just switch off if they sold that.


ooo000ooo

2,531 posts

194 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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rgw2012 said:
however it has gone way beyond what a home mechanic could reasonably achieve in their garage .
Surely the Maserati started off as what a home mechanic had achieved in their garage?

Cupramax

10,480 posts

252 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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I thought the Maserati one was one of the best theyve done, from a just being interesting point of view. No Mike being a bell end wheeling and dealing, just some interesting tech stuff, Edd spannering, a bit of messing about in the car at the end. Amazing how far electric motor and battery tech has come. Could imagine that 70hp motor they used would be a hoot if stuffed in an original Fiat 500!! Batteries in the front to replace the fuel tank.

Chris_H

1,064 posts

278 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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I thought the interesting bit of the Maserati was what is now possible compared to 1993 when it was originally electrified. That was only 23 years ago but look at the difference!

rgw2012

598 posts

143 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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ooo000ooo said:
rgw2012 said:
however it has gone way beyond what a home mechanic could reasonably achieve in their garage .
Surely the Maserati started off as what a home mechanic had achieved in their garage?
Yes but the premise of the programme isn't about what the sellers of the cars had done, it is about what they do to get it fixed and sold

rgw2012

598 posts

143 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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pingu393 said:
It's not been about the home mechanic making a profit for about five years.
Tell Mike Brewer that on Twitter then

ClockworkCupcake

74,565 posts

272 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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Regardless of the original premise, I enjoyed the Maserati episode - it was something fresh in an otherwise increasingly stale show.

Butter Face

30,308 posts

160 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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I enjoyed the Maser episode. Was a nice change!

ClockworkCupcake

74,565 posts

272 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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One other thing I noticed is that the Maser seemed very arse-heavy. I wonder if they should have put some of the battery packs up front to distribute the load better, or else beefed up the rear suspension a bit?

generationx

6,747 posts

105 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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I really enjoyed that episode, but it's all come a hell of a long way from spraying rotten Mk3 Capris with rattlecans!

ClockworkCupcake said:
One other thing I noticed is that the Maser seemed very arse-heavy. I wonder if they should have put some of the battery packs up front to distribute the load better, or else beefed up the rear suspension a bit?
Thought so too - stiffer springs needed but not beyond the Edd-meister!

Dr Doofenshmirtz

15,230 posts

200 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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Great conversion, and something the average home mechanic could easily do themselves on the drive.

Off the shelf three phase AC motor, speed controller, battery pack, cooler, and cables etc...then the custom motor to gearbox adapter plate and something to hold the gearbox in place (replicating how the gearbox used to hang off the engine) and you're almost there. Of course you'd have to sort out the cars other electrics, but that's not rocket science especially on older cars.

You could electrify almost any car. I'd love to have a go and doing this.
When you're bored, you can just transfer all the electric gubbins into something else - all you need is a different adapter plate.

http://www.evwest.com/catalog/index.php



Edited by Dr Doofenshmirtz on Tuesday 10th January 21:30

V8covin

7,316 posts

193 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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The clumsy git damaged that front wing when he pulled the backend away on the jack.You could even hear the crunch

ClockworkCupcake

74,565 posts

272 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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V8covin said:
The clumsy git damaged that front wing when he pulled the backend away on the jack.You could even hear the crunch
I didn't hear the crunch but I did think at the time that the way he pulled the back away might put the front into the wall. I'm surprised he wasn't more careful, especially given the Lamborghini Urraco episode.


greygoose

8,262 posts

195 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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V8covin said:
The clumsy git damaged that front wing when he pulled the backend away on the jack.You could even hear the crunch
I thought that too, he smacked the front wing in to the wall and you could hear it hit. He is an oaf.

ClockworkCupcake

74,565 posts

272 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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greygoose said:
I thought that too, he smacked the front wing in to the wall and you could hear it hit. He is an oaf.
Have you noticed that he holds up some part or item, talks about it, then literally chucks it away rather than placing it back? I've seen it so many times. Some of the items look quite delicate too. He really is quite a (sort of lovable-ish) oaf. Poor form.