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That was utter b
ks.
5 mins of Ed assembling a car from scratch and the other 40 mins pointless Brewer drivel.
"We buy old cars, restore them and try to sell them on for a profit"
No you don't. You are not a car restoration business, you're a TV production company. If you must persist with this false premise, at the very least run the cars through an auction. We can ignore the contrived nature of the show when the majority of it is Ed spannering. Because that all anyone watches it for. No one watches it because of the supposed jeopardy of "cost" and "will Mike find a buyer". The show may have been a good idea but now there are others like Fast'n'Loud who are actually doing it for real (I acknowledge that a lot is set up but they are actually a garage who buy, build and sell cars) why bother to continue with this format? Just make the show "Ed fixes interesting cars" - no buying, selling, profit or other pretend nonsense.
Brewer can continue with his Barrett Jackson "lets see what it makes on the block" shows if he wishes.
ks.5 mins of Ed assembling a car from scratch and the other 40 mins pointless Brewer drivel.
"We buy old cars, restore them and try to sell them on for a profit"
No you don't. You are not a car restoration business, you're a TV production company. If you must persist with this false premise, at the very least run the cars through an auction. We can ignore the contrived nature of the show when the majority of it is Ed spannering. Because that all anyone watches it for. No one watches it because of the supposed jeopardy of "cost" and "will Mike find a buyer". The show may have been a good idea but now there are others like Fast'n'Loud who are actually doing it for real (I acknowledge that a lot is set up but they are actually a garage who buy, build and sell cars) why bother to continue with this format? Just make the show "Ed fixes interesting cars" - no buying, selling, profit or other pretend nonsense.
Brewer can continue with his Barrett Jackson "lets see what it makes on the block" shows if he wishes.
Edited by TEKNOPUG on Wednesday 18th January 11:41
It was ok but a missed opportunity on building the car and taking part in the rally and then making a mini series of it as others have said. One thing I do find annoying not just of WD but a lot of pragammes of this ilk is the constant recap of events after a break. At least 5 minutes is wasted and tbf I don't think many people that watch these type of shows have the mental capacity of a goldfish to necessitate the constant reminders.
Smollet said:
One thing I do find annoying not just of WD but a lot of pragammes of this ilk is the constant recap of events after a break. At least 5 minutes is wasted and tbf I don't think many people that watch these type of shows have the mental capacity of a goldfish to necessitate the constant reminders.
I think it is more to do with capturing the channel surfers rather than the fact that viewers might have forgotten. Likewise with "coming up" beforehand, as an attempt to encourage people to stick with it and not surf away. Both are largely ineffective and, as you say, annoying to those of us who are actually interested in watching the whole programme. And who watches TV live these days anyway? I for one always record programmes I want to watch, so I can fast forward through the adverts and also the aforementioned "coming up" and recap crap.
Actually, it's just occurred to me that maybe we should refer to "recap crap" as "recrap" henceforth.
ClockworkCupcake said:
Smollet said:
One thing I do find annoying not just of WD but a lot of pragammes of this ilk is the constant recap of events after a break. At least 5 minutes is wasted and tbf I don't think many people that watch these type of shows have the mental capacity of a goldfish to necessitate the constant reminders.
I think it is more to do with capturing the channel surfers rather than the fact that viewers might have forgotten. Likewise with "coming up" beforehand, as an attempt to encourage people to stick with it and not surf away. Both are largely ineffective and, as you say, annoying to those of us who are actually interested in watching the whole programme. And who watches TV live these days anyway? I for one always record programmes I want to watch, so I can fast forward through the adverts and also the aforementioned "coming up" and recap crap.
Actually, it's just occurred to me that maybe we should refer to "recap crap" as "recrap" henceforth.
As regards watching tv live I too record just about everything apart from sport and the news.
Really odd episode and like others I would love to have seen them actually do the rally in a little mini series. I was really expecting that to happen and then we just had a quick bit from Brewer at the end saying they missed it. Very odd.
The recaps certainly seem to be getting worse. When I watch WD now I fast forward through all the initial bits until the first WD title actually comes up, I fast forward from the coming up bit and I fast forward a minute or so after a break when they again repeat the stuff you have already seen before the break. It's getting silly. I don't need to see a load of stuff before the titles that is going to be in the program anyway, I don't need to see stuff after the break that's going to be in it anyway and I don't need reminding after the break what I have just watched.
The recaps certainly seem to be getting worse. When I watch WD now I fast forward through all the initial bits until the first WD title actually comes up, I fast forward from the coming up bit and I fast forward a minute or so after a break when they again repeat the stuff you have already seen before the break. It's getting silly. I don't need to see a load of stuff before the titles that is going to be in the program anyway, I don't need to see stuff after the break that's going to be in it anyway and I don't need reminding after the break what I have just watched.
I gotta say, it winds me the fI have to say (as have others) that this has been a really dire series - despite some quite brilliant off-screen work done to transform these cars (they don't show enough of it). Mike also made some comment in the episode this week about them 'having to go back to the UK' making it sound like it wasn't home any more that really grated. I have to say Mike really seems to think he is 'the man' in this series and I think celebrity has gone to his head - all his involvement detracts from the show, he just comes across as a smug fairly talentless bore.
In fact quickly looking at Edd and Mike's twitter feeds you get that Jeremy Clarkson v James May feeling in the TGT - Mike is posting all sorts of gratuitous crap about Ford, his other half and US stuff, his expanding car sales network (advertised for free on WD) etc. whilst Edd seems to be meaningfully responding to followers and still very much committed to what people want out of the show.
One hopes they have someone tracking online feedback like this thread and adjustments can be made.
In fact quickly looking at Edd and Mike's twitter feeds you get that Jeremy Clarkson v James May feeling in the TGT - Mike is posting all sorts of gratuitous crap about Ford, his other half and US stuff, his expanding car sales network (advertised for free on WD) etc. whilst Edd seems to be meaningfully responding to followers and still very much committed to what people want out of the show.
One hopes they have someone tracking online feedback like this thread and adjustments can be made.
ClockworkCupcake said:
Actually, it's just occurred to me that maybe we should refer to "recap crap" as "recrap" henceforth.
I will endeavour to use the term as well wherever possible. Would the bit before the adverts telling us what is coming up after the adverts therefore be the "Precrap" for us?Shakermaker said:
ClockworkCupcake said:
Actually, it's just occurred to me that maybe we should refer to "recap crap" as "recrap" henceforth.
I will endeavour to use the term as well wherever possible. Would the bit before the adverts telling us what is coming up after the adverts therefore be the "Precrap" for us?
TEKNOPUG said:
dsmith1990 said:
Looking at the user comments on his facebook page, Mike stated during the pre-episode live feed that the rally didn't go ahead as one of them was in poor health at the time. I'll have to check it later!
Mike had gout?Leithen said:
TEKNOPUG said:
dsmith1990 said:
Looking at the user comments on his facebook page, Mike stated during the pre-episode live feed that the rally didn't go ahead as one of them was in poor health at the time. I'll have to check it later!
Mike had gout?TEKNOPUG said:
Leithen said:
TEKNOPUG said:
dsmith1990 said:
Looking at the user comments on his facebook page, Mike stated during the pre-episode live feed that the rally didn't go ahead as one of them was in poor health at the time. I'll have to check it later!
Mike had gout?Cadillac episode made no sense to me, why travel to England and buy a pile of scrap yet a very nice car was available in the USA.
Not keen on the latest series, really enjoyed some of the old ones Dodge charger and the Morgan were great but they have lost the plot a little with this series.
Not keen on the latest series, really enjoyed some of the old ones Dodge charger and the Morgan were great but they have lost the plot a little with this series.
waynecyclist said:
Cadillac episode made no sense to me, why travel to England and buy a pile of scrap yet a very nice car was available in the USA.
Not keen on the latest series, really enjoyed some of the old ones Dodge charger and the Morgan were great but they have lost the plot a little with this series.
Good point wayne. It really no sense and its just a waste of time.Not keen on the latest series, really enjoyed some of the old ones Dodge charger and the Morgan were great but they have lost the plot a little with this series.
For me the Cadillac was the jumping the shark episode.
The whole premise of the show has changed totally now from what it was and where it started with just the name of the show remaining the same. I always enjoyed it from the point of view that it showed what could be done if you invested in some decent tools and had some mechanical nous to apply with the obvious caveat of an element of TV artistic licence. It walked the right line between interesting cars you could relate to and those you could see yourself buying for a winter project. Personally I cant relate to a Caddy, a 'not for export' Hummer you can't import to the UK (google it) nor a duracell'd maserati with more 'one of' parts than the space shuttle.
As for the production values, where do you even start? It's now aimed at the high fructose corn syrup American with the attention span of a plum tomato who needs recaps, fast cut editing and loud bass heavy music every 20 second edit to stay interested and not turn over and watch 'retards in the forest making moonshine' or 'Roswell, the new evidence. Honest' or some other pile of made for idiot telly.
Everyone I know who has met both the Mike and Ed say they are really genuine guys who are down to earth and very easy to relate to. I know someone who met Brewer when he went out to Afghanistan and by all accounts he took the banter really well and changed a lot of the lads more negative opinions of him right around. I also have a lot of respect for Ed and his creations away from the programme, I think he is a very switched on lad that does his own thing how he wants to do it and I can see him doing something along the lines of the James May Re assembler or Guy Martin type programmes.
So all that said I hope they decide to do something else that's a bit closer to what the motor enthusiast here wants to see as there is a market for it they seem to have walked away from.
The whole premise of the show has changed totally now from what it was and where it started with just the name of the show remaining the same. I always enjoyed it from the point of view that it showed what could be done if you invested in some decent tools and had some mechanical nous to apply with the obvious caveat of an element of TV artistic licence. It walked the right line between interesting cars you could relate to and those you could see yourself buying for a winter project. Personally I cant relate to a Caddy, a 'not for export' Hummer you can't import to the UK (google it) nor a duracell'd maserati with more 'one of' parts than the space shuttle.
As for the production values, where do you even start? It's now aimed at the high fructose corn syrup American with the attention span of a plum tomato who needs recaps, fast cut editing and loud bass heavy music every 20 second edit to stay interested and not turn over and watch 'retards in the forest making moonshine' or 'Roswell, the new evidence. Honest' or some other pile of made for idiot telly.
Everyone I know who has met both the Mike and Ed say they are really genuine guys who are down to earth and very easy to relate to. I know someone who met Brewer when he went out to Afghanistan and by all accounts he took the banter really well and changed a lot of the lads more negative opinions of him right around. I also have a lot of respect for Ed and his creations away from the programme, I think he is a very switched on lad that does his own thing how he wants to do it and I can see him doing something along the lines of the James May Re assembler or Guy Martin type programmes.
So all that said I hope they decide to do something else that's a bit closer to what the motor enthusiast here wants to see as there is a market for it they seem to have walked away from.
I've finally given up on WD, the Stateside super-slick production gets on my tits and IMO it's lost its slightly rough and ready charm. I stumbled on to Shed & Buried recently with Henry Cole and Sam Lovegrove, what a great TV series, their enthusiasm is infectious and Sam is the motorcycle version of Edd China, it feels a bit like Wheeler Dealer used to be.
Gunk said:
I've finally given up on WD, the Stateside super-slick production gets on my tits and IMO it's lost its slightly rough and ready charm. I stumbled on to Shed & Buried recently with Henry Cole and Sam Lovegrove, what a great TV series, their enthusiasm is infectious and Sam is the motorcycle version of Edd China, it feels a bit like Wheeler Dealer used to be.
Well I guess it really depends with the production and sponsors. They also have the capacity what the future holds of a certain TV show. Just like with Fisher's ATV World were there are a lot of sponsors and most of this sponsors like http://4wheelonline.com/ dictate what or which episode should be done are should go on air.Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff