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generationx

6,645 posts

104 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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V8covin said:
So they paid 8k for a scrapper and then 4k for a mint restored body + chassis that together made 1 vehicle.
That would be called ringing in this country.
Not sure, unless they were deliberately trying to conceal what they did. I remember the beach buggy episode when they started of with a really rough Beetle, then replaced the body for a buggy, then a shortened new chassis, then the engine, steering column, gearbox, wheels... Then there was the Morgan when they changed the whole frame too.
I GUESS Brewer Motors wouldn´t deliberately break the law tongue out

Phil Dicky

7,162 posts

262 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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generationx said:
V8covin said:
So they paid 8k for a scrapper and then 4k for a mint restored body + chassis that together made 1 vehicle.
That would be called ringing in this country.
Not sure, unless they were deliberately trying to conceal what they did. I remember the beach buggy episode when they started of with a really rough Beetle, then replaced the body for a buggy, then a shortened new chassis, then the engine, steering column, gearbox, wheels... Then there was the Morgan when they changed the whole frame too.
I GUESS Brewer Motors wouldn´t deliberately break the law tongue out
The main point of ringing is hiding the identity of a stolen car, not quite the case here, unless WD are heading in a new direction smile

Winky151

1,267 posts

140 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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Liszt said:
trooperiziz said:
What exactly did they use from the original car in the end? The engine, the suspension, the axles... that's it isn't it? Body, gearbox, glass, interior, brakes, hub lockers, wheels, tyres etc... were all new or from the donor car.

"This is the most work we have ever done on a car"
It was two cars!
"I remember when this car rolled into the workshop"
That was a different car!

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Suspension was new too!
Just watched this. Whilst I liked the explanation on the hublock this was NOT a rebuild as the only thing from the original car was the engine. Very disappointing. frown

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

99 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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V8covin said:
So they paid 8k for a scrapper and then 4k for a mint restored body + chassis that together made 1 vehicle.
That would be called ringing in this country.
I think they only used the body from that other vehicle and not the chassis -

Gunk

3,302 posts

158 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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I take it all with a pinch of salt, still a great program though, both Mike and Ed are endearing characters, I'd rather watch WD than the Clarkson, May, Hammond infantile rubbish.

V8covin

7,214 posts

192 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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Shakermaker said:
I think they only used the body from that other vehicle and not the chassis -
I'm pretty sure they used the chassis too which technically makes it a completely different vehicle.

generationx

6,645 posts

104 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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V8covin said:
Shakermaker said:
I think they only used the body from that other vehicle and not the chassis -
I'm pretty sure they used the chassis too which technically makes it a completely different vehicle.
Yes I´m sure one of them mentioned in the voice-over that they´d used the refurbished chassis too.

ooo000ooo

2,523 posts

193 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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Notice there's no annoying recaps after the breaks. Editing was a bit choppy in places. Must have been a lot cut out?

Dr Doofenshmirtz

15,187 posts

199 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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They've certainly moved on from their 'there's some rust, let's fill it with filler and paint over it' days...but that was part of the charm. Bodging a car up to make it look better and then some spannering that the home mechanic could tackle. It was stuff I (as a keen home mechanic) could relate to.
It's a bit like when the missus watches bake off, and then attempts to do what they've done in our kitchen with varying results.

The (current) American series is just big budget nonsense. I still watch it, but I don't sit there thinking 'I could/would do that'.
Hopefully the UK series will be better.

Packrat

126 posts

101 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Iva Barchetta said:
I don't know which series I'm watching currently ,it's "new to Quest".

It's UK based and have so far done an Elise and a Corvette C2, which ironically they shipped from the US.

I don't have Discovery channel.
Nor me until I got nowtv. Worth the £6.99 a month

Blib

43,797 posts

196 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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I agree. It's certainly lost some of its charm. However, I shall continue to watch.

greygoose

8,225 posts

194 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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ooo000ooo said:
Notice there's no annoying recaps after the breaks. Editing was a bit choppy in places. Must have been a lot cut out?
They seemed to skip putting the whole new body on, or putting the engine in the newly painted car, whichever way they did it.

Packrat

126 posts

101 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Still and will always love wd.. but if I want watch us cars being rebuilt.it has to be Overhaulin or gas monkey ..

Iva Barchetta

44,044 posts

162 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Packrat said:
Iva Barchetta said:
I don't know which series I'm watching currently ,it's "new to Quest".

It's UK based and have so far done an Elise and a Corvette C2, which ironically they shipped from the US.

I don't have Discovery channel.
Nor me until I got nowtv. Worth the £6.99 a month
I'm happy enough watching an out of date series.

Last night was the Polish luxury that is a FSM Serena .

The tax disc in it was 2013.

Gunk

3,302 posts

158 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Mike needs to lay off the supersize fries, he gets bigger every series. Edd has reinvented himself as a SoCal surfer dude!

V8covin

7,214 posts

192 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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greygoose said:
They seemed to skip putting the whole new body on, or putting the engine in the newly painted car, whichever way they did it.
that's because they didn't 'put a whole new body on'
They just put all the parts they already had onto the other body AND chassis

h0b0

7,559 posts

195 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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If that was the case, why did it take so much time? If they just got a body in it would not take 800 hours. Assembling a car takes a couple of days. I think they did restore the original one but the final cost was so ridiculous they had to "find" it and only pay $4000.



Shakermaker

11,317 posts

99 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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But they didn't say it took 800 hours, they quoted somewhere in the 250 region

h0b0

7,559 posts

195 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Shakermaker said:
But they didn't say it took 800 hours, they quoted somewhere in the 250 region
Might be different on the US version but from memory it took over 700 hours and they made a song and dance about how it was the most labor intensive car they had done. Even if it was not the 700 hours figure, why would a body replacement be the most labor intensive. And, where was the labor in the show? They went from scrap car to showing new chassis to having new body. That is not the most work they have ever done. The TVR would be equivalent and that was certainly not the most work they have done.

I think they screwed up because it was a huge amount of work which they did not want to go unrecorded but they couldn't show it because someone else did it.

tr7v8

7,186 posts

227 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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generationx said:
V8covin said:
So they paid 8k for a scrapper and then 4k for a mint restored body + chassis that together made 1 vehicle.
That would be called ringing in this country.
Not sure, unless they were deliberately trying to conceal what they did. I remember the beach buggy episode when they started of with a really rough Beetle, then replaced the body for a buggy, then a shortened new chassis, then the engine, steering column, gearbox, wheels... Then there was the Morgan when they changed the whole frame too.
I GUESS Brewer Motors wouldn´t deliberately break the law tongue out
The Beach Buggy was a bit suspect but the Morgan was a factory new replacement chassis. Putting the ID/VIN onto that is perfectly legit.