Captain America: Civil War
Discussion
GarryDK said:
Antony Moxey said:
That running order you've done, is that the order they were filmed or the order you should watch them in to get a correct timeline?
Both.They've never said that they were not in order.
Antony Moxey said:
So you don't think Captain America should be first - he was Captain America long before Tony Stark made the Iron Man suit, and was he Iron Man before or after he meets with the general at the end of the Hulk film? I'm confused!
Lol you are over thinking it. He was Ironman at the end of Hulk.
Cap has past and present, the present bits are after ironman.
SWoll said:
I've enjoyed most of the Marvel films but have got to the point where I have trouble getting excited at the prospect of seeing them.
Civil War looks like it'll be a good one (especially with the Russo brother at the helm) but I'm far more excited about BvS, Suicide Squad and season 2 of Daredevil this year than I am about seeing Ironman and Cap again. I also don't get the whole spiderman thing, he just isn't that interesting a character and has been done to death in average films for years.
Got to be honest and say 'big blue' leaves me cold - that being said BvS looks like it could be of interest. SS on the other hand I'm totally up for. Civil War looks like it'll be a good one (especially with the Russo brother at the helm) but I'm far more excited about BvS, Suicide Squad and season 2 of Daredevil this year than I am about seeing Ironman and Cap again. I also don't get the whole spiderman thing, he just isn't that interesting a character and has been done to death in average films for years.
This covers all the tie-ins. 
http://www.avclub.com/article/beginners-guide-expa...
this is the Chronological Viewing Order.
http://screenrant.com/marvel-movies-tv-viewing-gui...
There was a page that actually listed the AoS episodes and inserted them into the films, but can't find it now.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/avengers/avengers_ag...
http://www.avclub.com/article/beginners-guide-expa...
this is the Chronological Viewing Order.
http://screenrant.com/marvel-movies-tv-viewing-gui...
There was a page that actually listed the AoS episodes and inserted them into the films, but can't find it now.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/avengers/avengers_ag...
irocfan said:
Got to be honest and say 'big blue' leaves me cold - that being said BvS looks like it could be of interest. SS on the other hand I'm totally up for.
It's 100% Affleck's take on an older and pissed off Batman that interests me. The opening fight scene in the latest trailer turned me around on it after the lacklustre and spoiler filled one previously released.For me, the most interesting Marvel film this year is going to be Dr Strange. Something that could be genuinely different.
Agree with whoever said they don't like Spidey, he is decent character but he really has been done to death over the last decade. Not sure how I feel about him appearing in this. It could go either way, it will be a star turn and will invigorate my interest in that character or it will be the nail in the coffin. If it's the latter, they should just bury him for 10 years but they won't because he makes money.
Guvernator said:
Agree with whoever said they don't like Spidey, he is decent character but he really has been done to death over the last decade. Not sure how I feel about him appearing in this. It could go either way, it will be a star turn and will invigorate my interest in that character or it will be the nail in the coffin. If it's the latter, they should just bury him for 10 years but they won't because he makes money.
It's pure fanboy stuff. I don't see any need to add him into the mix other than because they finally can. He'll probably work fine as part of a team movie but I've got no interest in another standalone movie. SWoll said:
Guvernator said:
Agree with whoever said they don't like Spidey, he is decent character but he really has been done to death over the last decade. Not sure how I feel about him appearing in this. It could go either way, it will be a star turn and will invigorate my interest in that character or it will be the nail in the coffin. If it's the latter, they should just bury him for 10 years but they won't because he makes money.
It's pure fanboy stuff. I don't see any need to add him into the mix other than because they finally can. He'll probably work fine as part of a team movie but I've got no interest in another standalone movie. irocfan said:
IIRC spidey is an integral part of civil-war so Marvel *had* to try and get him
I don't doubt that he is, just from the standpoint of someone who didn't read many of the comics (I was more of a 2000AD lad) I've always found him rather dull and I wonder how many of the people who go and watch the Marvel films would even have realised had he was missing.Probably none, and from what I understand, his pivotal aspect of the story won't be used in this civil war, for a fundamental reason.
But he is different to everyone else in the MCU and fills a niche. He is a quick-witted kid who infuriates 'heroes' an villains alike by acting like a teenager with powers all the time, and he cannot be touched.
Imagine if some snotty kid hung around you and made wise-cracks, who was actually smarter than you and who when he wound you up enough to try and physically restrain you couldn't even get within ten feet of, that's Spidey. D His best rivalry was with the equally young HUman-torch, whom he used to 'spray his web-fluid over'...ahem, and infuriate the piss outta him, cas it took effort to burn off.
I love the Sam Raimi SPidey films but I'd like to see a more faithful character adaptation on screen. D
I don't wanna see another reboot solo film...but that's on the way regardless....ho-hum.
But he is different to everyone else in the MCU and fills a niche. He is a quick-witted kid who infuriates 'heroes' an villains alike by acting like a teenager with powers all the time, and he cannot be touched.
Imagine if some snotty kid hung around you and made wise-cracks, who was actually smarter than you and who when he wound you up enough to try and physically restrain you couldn't even get within ten feet of, that's Spidey. D His best rivalry was with the equally young HUman-torch, whom he used to 'spray his web-fluid over'...ahem, and infuriate the piss outta him, cas it took effort to burn off.
I love the Sam Raimi SPidey films but I'd like to see a more faithful character adaptation on screen. D
I don't wanna see another reboot solo film...but that's on the way regardless....ho-hum.
I get the point of the character Halb, I just think it's been done to death and the real reason they've got him in is that the next stage of Avengers is looking a little weak once the current bunch are out of contract.
The only decent Raimi was Spiderman 2. The first one was Ok and even Raimi himself admits 3 was dreadful. 1 decent film in 5 shows how difficult a character it is to make interesting IMHO.
The only decent Raimi was Spiderman 2. The first one was Ok and even Raimi himself admits 3 was dreadful. 1 decent film in 5 shows how difficult a character it is to make interesting IMHO.
well I like generous review here about Captain America civil war
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f15Rdc7AGoM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f15Rdc7AGoM
johnbrown12 said:
well I like generous review here about Captain America civil war
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f15Rdc7AGoM
You literally joined here to post the most pointless YouTube link ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f15Rdc7AGoM
Don't bother clicking it, it's not even faintly interesting or a 'review'. It's some kid who has watched the trailer then read the press stories about a set visit, then put the two together.
A nerd ranks the heroes/baddies in Civil War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG-RPILotmk
I broadly agree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG-RPILotmk
I broadly agree.
I agree with the sentiment Spidey is unnecessary for Civil War - as it's been setup in the films.
For those who haven't read the comics (and I don't believe I'm spoiling anything here) - the war is over registration, after the increasing levels of collateral damage when supers fight.
Spidey's whole bag is that he has one weakness - those he loves. It's the constant thing that keeps getting him - Aunt May/Mary Jane being used against him, and getting hurt in the process.
His defence against this is the efforts he goes to to keep his identity secret. It's the only way to keep his loved ones safe. So [possible spoiler alert], when Tony changes his mind and supports registration, and Cap for once rails against authority and doesn't, it's a bloody huge thing when Spidey pulls off his mask and says 'I'm Peter Parker'.
That can't happen in the MCU. He hasn't had the back story. It hasn't been shown multiple times why keeping his identity secret is so important to him.
Hence why I'm dubious why it was considered so important for him to be regained in order to get him into Civil War. Hawkeye could have adopted that stance, after we see he's got a family he keeps secret in A2.
For those who haven't read the comics (and I don't believe I'm spoiling anything here) - the war is over registration, after the increasing levels of collateral damage when supers fight.
Spidey's whole bag is that he has one weakness - those he loves. It's the constant thing that keeps getting him - Aunt May/Mary Jane being used against him, and getting hurt in the process.
His defence against this is the efforts he goes to to keep his identity secret. It's the only way to keep his loved ones safe. So [possible spoiler alert], when Tony changes his mind and supports registration, and Cap for once rails against authority and doesn't, it's a bloody huge thing when Spidey pulls off his mask and says 'I'm Peter Parker'.
That can't happen in the MCU. He hasn't had the back story. It hasn't been shown multiple times why keeping his identity secret is so important to him.
Hence why I'm dubious why it was considered so important for him to be regained in order to get him into Civil War. Hawkeye could have adopted that stance, after we see he's got a family he keeps secret in A2.
If the this film worked like other films...maybe...but it doesn't. The MCU is unique. All the films are linked and the universe is an intricate thing that Marvel are trying to craft. It's pretty darn amazing. I love the fact we now have this immense tapestry of stuff which references back and forth. It'd be a bit weird if Spidey didn't pop up here, if he was gonna make an entrance (which taking all odds would be inevitable) in the MCU.
I can forgive the shoehorn.
I can forgive the shoehorn.
Halb said:
A nerd ranks the heroes/baddies in Civil War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG-RPILotmk
I broadly agree.
Just watched this, agree with most of it except no way would I put CA above Iron Man. Much as I like the CA character and Evan's almost perfect portrayal of him, in a 1v1 fight with IM, he would get his a*se handed to him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG-RPILotmk
I broadly agree.
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