Captain America: Civil War

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Veeayt

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Tuesday 12th May 2015
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Halb

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Tuesday 12th May 2015
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Veeayt said:
Interesting. Couple that with the fact that Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are now not mutants in the comics, Marvel seem to be drawing from each media for the other.

That is not say that the films will follow the comics exactly, that is not possible. The Marvel universe is a hybrid of the old Marvel uni and the new Ultimate one.
I read an article that talked about the Civil War storyline, the only major difference between the comic and the films are that secret identities don't exist in the films, which is a sensible move.
That's why I think we'll see government agents, the ones that side with Stark will assume the official mantles of 'heroes', while Steve Rogers, Tony Stark et al may die. Also I don't see recasts unless the studio is forced to. That's a big advantage (for me) over the comics, if somebody dies, the chances are good that they'll stay dead...Coulson anomaly accepted.

Also I just realised, of course this film is full of heroes....it's a civil war! There aren't really any super villains in the MCU.

GarryDK

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Tuesday 12th May 2015
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Halb said:
There aren't really any super villains in the MCU.
??? Loki? Winter soldier? Red skull? Ultron? Thanos? Ronan? Whiplash? The Mandarin? Abomination? And thousands more they could bring in.

Halb

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Tuesday 12th May 2015
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GarryDK said:
??? Loki? Winter soldier? Red skull? Ultron? Thanos? Ronan? Whiplash? The Mandarin? Abomination? And thousands more they could bring in.
As I typed it, I realised it wasn't highly accurate (I was thinking of Loki at the time), but what I mean is that the iconic baddies are not owned by MCU, Loki has been used and reused, and Thanos is a galactic baddie. For on the ground footsoldiers the only one I can think of is the Absorbing Man, and he was dealt with easy enough by SHIELD.
Mandarin was an actor, they won't reuse Abomination.
I'm thinking of low level ones they'd need to bring in...the good guys far outweigh the bad guys right now. THere hasn't been an explosion of bad supers like there has been good supers. The Inhumans story connection may change this.
Baron Zemo is a baddie I've seen listed as one coming in, I didn't know who he was. biggrin
I expect the High Evolutionary though, considering the Inhuman stuff.

robemcdonald

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196 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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First trailer is out

http://youtu.be/43NWzay3W4s

Looks pretty good.

MiniMan64

16,899 posts

190 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Looks so much better than I thought it would be and definitely has the feel of a CA movie rather than Avengers 2.5.

p1stonhead

25,526 posts

167 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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That 3 way fight! yikes

pad58

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181 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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No baddies to fight so they fight amongst themselves.

MiniMan64

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190 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Just watched it through again, lots of little interesting bits Hawkeyes on the Caps side, so is Scarlett witch.

There's a very brief shot of Blank Panther there so he's got to be on Tony's side along with Widow and War Machine.

Shows a lot but also shows so little, no Vision, no Antman, no Spider-Man (hardly likely I know). No Zemo and no Martin Freeman either which makes me think they're playing a bait and switch with the villains of this piece.

Tony Starks

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212 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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robemcdonald said:
First trailer is out

http://youtu.be/43NWzay3W4s

Looks pretty good.
Finally the first good looking Marvel film since The Winter Soldier and Guardians.

p1stonhead

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167 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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MiniMan64 said:
Just watched it through again, lots of little interesting bits Hawkeyes on the Caps side, so is Scarlett witch.

There's a very brief shot of Blank Panther there so he's got to be on Tony's side along with Widow and War Machine.

Shows a lot but also shows so little, no Vision, no Antman, no Spider-Man (hardly likely I know). No Zemo and no Martin Freeman either which makes me think they're playing a bait and switch with the villains of this piece.
I have read Spiderman will make a small appearance in the actual film at least. Anyone know if it will Andrew Garfield or a new guy?

Civpilot

6,235 posts

240 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Spidey is a new guy, announced ages ago. Played by Tom Holland so they are going back to high school age by actually getting someone who looks high school age (a first for a movie I think hehe ). They have also said it won't be an origin story for him, he will already be Spider-Man when he appears in CW.

Black Panther actually appears several times in the trailer. The posed shot, in a fight leg sweeping someone, and running away from what looks like Cap (and pulling away in a sprint... So he's fast)

Also notice a shot of Tony cradling a downed war machine!

The Beaver King

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195 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Civpilot said:
Spidey is a new guy, announced ages ago. Played by Tom Holland so they are going back to high school age by actually getting someone who looks high school age (a first for a movie I think hehe ). They have also said it won't be an origin story for him, he will already be Spider-Man when he appears in CW.
Correct.

Spidey gets his own Marvel film in 2017; hopefully this will be the final reboot...

The Beaver King

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Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Back to the trailer;

I really, really like the look of this. It seems to have the same darker gritty edge that made Winter Soldier so good. The Russo Brothers are absolutely nailing the tone of their Marvel films and I'm so glad they are doing the Infinity War films.

Nice to see they have kept with the same General Ross as well; that probably means The Incredible Hulk is still canon (which is good because I really enjoyed it).

With this, BvS and Deadpool all coming out within a couple of months of each other, I think I'm going to explode.

p1stonhead

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Wednesday 25th November 2015
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The Beaver King said:
Civpilot said:
Spidey is a new guy, announced ages ago. Played by Tom Holland so they are going back to high school age by actually getting someone who looks high school age (a first for a movie I think hehe ). They have also said it won't be an origin story for him, he will already be Spider-Man when he appears in CW.
Correct.

Spidey gets his own Marvel film in 2017; hopefully this will be the final reboot...
Any particular reason they wouldnt just use Garfield? He is already quite established and certainly was better than Toby whatever's version!

MiniMan64

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190 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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p1stonhead said:
The Beaver King said:
Civpilot said:
Spidey is a new guy, announced ages ago. Played by Tom Holland so they are going back to high school age by actually getting someone who looks high school age (a first for a movie I think hehe ). They have also said it won't be an origin story for him, he will already be Spider-Man when he appears in CW.
Correct.

Spidey gets his own Marvel film in 2017; hopefully this will be the final reboot...
Any particular reason they wouldnt just use Garfield? He is already quite established and certainly was better than Toby whatever's version!
You can't start again using the same actor.

Especially as Marvel seem to want to try and get back to him as teenager to differentiate from the previous versions.

Watchman

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245 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Oh yes, that's more like it. I was so disappointed with AoU but the Cap America films have been consistently.good.

GarryDK

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Wednesday 25th November 2015
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GarryDK

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Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Halb

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Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Sheeeet, that looks frggin brilliant!
In the same vein as Cap2!