Damned Designs ch4

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The Don of Croy

5,993 posts

159 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Bungleaio said:
...As for the eco mentalist sending the council that song rofl
- last seen relaxing in the outdoor hot tub. Heated by....?

He was a chancer par excellance - having a meeting with the CEO of the council (bet that made his day) and pleading all sorts 'cos it's sustainable and eco (including the caravan + campervan?). Referring to the bairn as newborn (at 2.5 years old).

Shame he received two more enforcement notices.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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I have to say I had absolutely zero sympathy with any of them.

In fact I would say that Warrington Council were very considerate in giving the publican a chance that they really didn't have to.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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The Don of Croy said:
garyhun said:
My dad has not built before so was not aware the property was 50% larger than planning allowed.

Yes of course love!

Do theses people think the planners were born yesterday?
He's just a layman - how could he interpret plans or drawings without specialist knowledge?

It's not as if he came from an industry reliant on measuring...

The shed they were building was so devoid of 'design' as to be wilfully unpleasant. Add to that the scale of it and it would have been quite monstrous had it been allowed.
I built my own house for the very first time last year. One thing I would have been very aware of was if it was 50% too big!

Also, builders do not make such mistakes.

The whole 50% increase was a conscious decision by all involved.

Laurel Green

30,776 posts

232 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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The Don of Croy said:
He's just a layman - how could he interpret plans or drawings without specialist knowledge?
Which begs the question, who gave the builder instructions to expand the build? Assuming the measurements were on the plans.

ETA: Didn't see your post, Gary.

kev1974

4,029 posts

129 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Yep I didn't really understand what the pub's council were granting the temporary 9 month reprieve from. He'd done absolutely nothing about dealing with the matter since the previous enforcement notice, what made them think he'd do in the new 9 month period? And doesn't it still have to come down then so why prolong it? Surprised that Licensing or the local police hadn't kicked off about the unexpected increase in capacity? They would have done in my borough. My guess was that he was another chancer, knew full well he needed planning permission, but was hoping to show a year's trading at higher capacity than previous years and use that to sell the pub/licence at an inflated price to someone else and then run off with the cash, leaving someone else to deal with it.

Eco boy needed to take a look at himself and put his wife and kid first instead, then maybe she wouldn't have left him.

Big house guy clearing off to India and using that as an excuse was not good enough but then neither was the bloke from the council who bleated "we don't have the resources to police this sort of thing" at one point. Yes you do mate otherwise your entire raison d'etre is in question, if you're not going to get off your bum and measure something then why exist at all. Honestly it can't take more than an hour or two to pop up in a van with a tape measure and see that it is widely out. Shameful.

Seeing how quickly the overgrown house came down it looked like it was really shoddily built!

kev1974

4,029 posts

129 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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The Don of Croy said:
He's just a layman - how could he interpret plans or drawings without specialist knowledge?

It's not as if he came from an industry reliant on measuring...
Do you think he just blithely signed the cheques for 55% more bricks and months of extra builders' time as well without knowing?

Or perhaps the builder was so kind they just took that hit on extra material and time themselves. A rare thing!

In reality there had to be two sets of plans and two sets of budgets, however rough and ready these things were. Of course he knew, layman or not.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Measuring a property is not a specialist skill. It is something someone with precisely half a brain can figure out how to do it, and he was a Doctor.

Laurel Green

30,776 posts

232 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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Heads up, series final.

Alucidnation

Original Poster:

16,810 posts

170 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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In.

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Laurel Green

30,776 posts

232 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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"Not much different than a mobile home" rofl

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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What a total pisstaking fkwit! Just because the component parts have travelled from Canada then assembled into a house over here, does not make it a "mobile" home! Utter tosser!

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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Am I alone in wondering how the hell these people can stand in front of a camera and say "I'm in the right and I should be left in peace"?!! I just can't get my head around that mindset when they are so blatantly in the wrong. confused

Laurel Green

30,776 posts

232 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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Centurion07 said:
Am I alone in wondering how the hell these people can stand in front of a camera and say "I'm in the right and I should be left in peace"?!! I just can't get my head around that mindset when they are so blatantly in the wrong. confused
Just as well we don't all have 'that' mindset or we'd all be out building across this green-and-pleasant land. biggrin

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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As for this other bloke in Walthamstow....wow, just wow. shoot

That's a bit of an anomoly in the law there that planning permission can be granted for another building on the same land to a person who has shown that they have no regard for planning law already. He even had the cheek to say he undertands planning laws need to be adhered to. rofl

PorkInsider

5,886 posts

141 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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Love to see that prick's log shed knocked down.

JimbobVFR

2,682 posts

144 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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Am I the only one who immediately thought the guy with the Canadian log cabin was probably a PHer? Just watching on sky+ so a bit behind but if he thought that was a mobile home he's having a laugh the piss taking tt.

silverthorn2151

6,298 posts

179 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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Centurion07 said:
As for this other bloke in Walthamstow....wow, just wow. shoot

That's a bit of an anomoly in the law there that planning permission can be granted for another building on the same land to a person who has shown that they have no regard for planning law already. He even had the cheek to say he undertands planning laws need to be adhered to. rofl
It's actually in Chingford and happens to be my parents road. On the basis of what I saw this evening I formed the view that this was one of the most poorly researched, funded and produced programmes of its type.

There is a difference in my view between someone who inadvertently doesn't get the relevant consents, for whatever reason, and someone who knows they should have consent but doesn't bother or obtains consent and does something different. One needs help, the other needs to be taught a lesson. Without referring to any of the cases in this series.

A much better programme was the series last year that followed several planning departments.

Sheepshanks

32,725 posts

119 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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Centurion07 said:
Am I alone in wondering how the hell these people can stand in front of a camera and say "I'm in the right and I should be left in peace"?!! I just can't get my head around that mindset when they are so blatantly in the wrong. confused
I guess it's not much different to people having been nicked for speeding and come on here asserting that they haven't done anything wrong.


Edited by Sheepshanks on Tuesday 26th May 11:44

The Don of Croy

5,993 posts

159 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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Got more than a bit fed up with this presentation of belligerent types wanting their own way - even if they know they've broken planning laws - because they think they have a greater right.

As for that ghastly 'chalet bungalow' in Chingford - what an eyesore. Even the garage-cum-annexe was appalling to look at...what is wrong with these people?

Gets repetitive and very annoying very quickly.

They should offer viewers the chance to operate the demolition machine after some easy quiz.

lemmingjames

7,456 posts

204 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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Kinda felt sorry for the guy with the straw house. If it was kept in good condition then youd imagine it would blend in with the scenary.

I guess what it does show is how long it takes for cases to go through courts and/or how either inefficient the council is, theyve got loads of cases on or just generally understaffed. Though i guess if they think they drag it out for the length of time, the less stubborn ones will give up and just do as their told?