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Evercross said:
The Marvels is now officially the worst performing super-hero/comic-book derived character movie on record.
Second week box office return dropped 78% on what was already the lowest first-week return ever for a Marvel movie.
I guess the only way now is up.
I look forward to watching it on Disney+ in a few weeks (as is the usual way when they perform poorly at the cinema).Second week box office return dropped 78% on what was already the lowest first-week return ever for a Marvel movie.
I guess the only way now is up.
ThomW said:
I look forward to watching it on Disney+ in a few weeks (as is the usual way when they perform poorly at the cinema).
Disney+ has become the modern-day equivalent of the DVD bargain bin.It's a pity for DIsney Marvel though that the supposed target audience isn't queuing-up to watch it. They've spent the last couple of years learning that it is an expensive business pandering to a vocal minority who aren't really interested in your product but insist you make a special version of it for them that they won't go and see anyway.
Evercross said:
ThomW said:
I look forward to watching it on Disney+ in a few weeks (as is the usual way when they perform poorly at the cinema).
Disney+ has become the modern-day equivalent of the DVD bargain bin.It's a pity for DIsney Marvel though that the supposed target audience isn't queuing-up to watch it. They've spent the last couple of years learning that it is an expensive business pandering to a vocal minority who aren't really interested in your product but insist you make a special version of it for them that they won't go and see anyway.
t and never male hosts. Then they do it and are surprised no male watches itasfault said:
Evercross said:
ThomW said:
I look forward to watching it on Disney+ in a few weeks (as is the usual way when they perform poorly at the cinema).
Disney+ has become the modern-day equivalent of the DVD bargain bin.It's a pity for DIsney Marvel though that the supposed target audience isn't queuing-up to watch it. They've spent the last couple of years learning that it is an expensive business pandering to a vocal minority who aren't really interested in your product but insist you make a special version of it for them that they won't go and see anyway.
t and never male hosts. Then they do it and are surprised no male watches itStoutBench said:
Evercross said:
The Marvels is now officially the worst performing super-hero/comic-book derived character movie on record.
I find that hard to believe, what was your source?Budget: $16 million
Box office: $1.7 million
That was the first one that came to mind, but i’m sure there are worse if you go looking.
Evercross said:
Disney+ has become the modern-day equivalent of the DVD bargain bin.
It's a pity for DIsney Marvel though that the supposed target audience isn't queuing-up to watch it. They've spent the last couple of years learning that it is an expensive business pandering to a vocal minority who aren't really interested in your product but insist you make a special version of it for them that they won't go and see anyway.
Yes, everyone has deserted it but women much more so than men ... the actual ratio of men:women is much higher for it than it was in the 'bad old days of the patriarchy' before they made all the heroes women, and the men bumbling dweebs.It's a pity for DIsney Marvel though that the supposed target audience isn't queuing-up to watch it. They've spent the last couple of years learning that it is an expensive business pandering to a vocal minority who aren't really interested in your product but insist you make a special version of it for them that they won't go and see anyway.
Looks like the horrible, outdated, sexist old formula was actually much more appealing to women than the virtuous, on-the-right-side-of-history BS that Disney Marvel have been spewing out in the last couple of years.
Evercross said:
The Marvels is now officially the worst performing super-hero/comic-book derived character movie on record.
Second week box office return dropped 78% on what was already the lowest first-week return ever for a Marvel movie.
I guess the only way now is up.
God I hope not.Second week box office return dropped 78% on what was already the lowest first-week return ever for a Marvel movie.
I guess the only way now is up.
SpudLink said:
StoutBench said:
Evercross said:
The Marvels is now officially the worst performing super-hero/comic-book derived character movie on record.
I find that hard to believe, what was your source?Budget: $16 million
Box office: $1.7 million
That was the first one that came to mind, but i’m sure there are worse if you go looking.
Lucas Ayde said:
Yes, everyone has deserted it but women much more so than men ... the actual ratio of men:women is much higher for it than it was in the 'bad old days of the patriarchy' before they made all the heroes women, and the men bumbling dweebs.
Looks like the horrible, outdated, sexist old formula was actually much more appealing to women than the virtuous, on-the-right-side-of-history BS that Disney Marvel have been spewing out in the last couple of years.
You should know the gig's up when even Mark (Wo)Kermode isn't prepared to overlook a movie's shortcomings to defend its progressive messaging and diverse cast and crew.Looks like the horrible, outdated, sexist old formula was actually much more appealing to women than the virtuous, on-the-right-side-of-history BS that Disney Marvel have been spewing out in the last couple of years.
He slated The Marvels as a badly edited mess with visual effects that made the Christopher Reeves' Superman outings look high-tech, and cited that he had no investment in the characters, probably because he hadn't done his 14+ hours of homework watching three poorly-received Disney+ TV shows beforehand.
It's becoming a trope, but the RLM statement 'don't ask questions, just consume content and get excited for more content' does indeed appear to have been the business model. Unfortunately it means that there is no longer a jumping-in point for new fans, and existing fans who have neither the time or inclination to watch every output from the studio can quickly get alienated and decide not to bother in future.
It has been a perfect storm of idiocy for the MCU and it is only in-part related to the socio-political bent of the producers.
Evercross said:
It's becoming a trope, but the RLM statement 'don't ask questions, just consume content and get excited for more content' does indeed appear to have been the business model. .
The Nerd Crew was brilliant. Shame they ended it but then I suppose reality is often more surreal than any parody these days. Jonathan Majors found guilty, sentencing in February. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-6772...
He's a terrible villain that has already been beaten multiple times already...if he just keeps popping back up "because multiverse" it will rapidly get boring.
Give us an earth-level threat again with actual motivations like Dr.Doom, or keep going down the Dr.Strange weird route with Mephisto.
Give us an earth-level threat again with actual motivations like Dr.Doom, or keep going down the Dr.Strange weird route with Mephisto.
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