Discussion
Johnnytheboy said:
So, save me the aggro of watching it (having recorded it), is it any good? I thought the last series started well, and got less unique/entertaining when the synths started acting human.
I think, unless you can suspend a bit of disbelief, and just take the philosophical issues involved with the plotline even if there are some Swiss-Cheese-Sized spaces, then "No" - I wouldn't bother.I - on the other hand - think it makes for great TV. Perhaps a book would be better, but I am being lazy and would rather watch Gemma Chan (did I mention that before?) .....
K12beano said:
Johnnytheboy said:
So, save me the aggro of watching it (having recorded it), is it any good? I thought the last series started well, and got less unique/entertaining when the synths started acting human.
I think, unless you can suspend a bit of disbelief, and just take the philosophical issues involved with the plotline even if there are some Swiss-Cheese-Sized spaces, then "No" - I wouldn't bother.I - on the other hand - think it makes for great TV. Perhaps a book would be better, but I am being lazy and would rather watch Gemma Chan (did I mention that before?) .....
Gemma Chan was far more attractive as an emotionless android.
The Don of Croy said:
...putting expensive synths to work with hand tools in a mine is almost beyond parody. Shoddy, lazy writing.
That did make me wonder...but then I thought, are they that expensive? Mass produced models for business? Peanuts? Is some mining better done by hand?I dunno.
As for keeping interest, now I've seen that the 'mass turn-on' hasn't really worked out, then I reckon it can keep me watching. Comparisons with Westworld shall continue from here on in.
The Don of Croy said:
...putting expensive synths to work with hand tools in a mine is almost beyond parody. Shoddy, lazy writing.
I agree. Would you really replace all the efficient built-for-purpose robots that build cars with synths that emulate their human equivalents? Doesn't make sense.speedking31 said:
The Don of Croy said:
...putting expensive synths to work with hand tools in a mine is almost beyond parody. Shoddy, lazy writing.
I agree. Would you really replace all the efficient built-for-purpose robots that build cars with synths that emulate their human equivalents? Doesn't make sense.speedking31 said:
agree. Would you really replace all the efficient built-for-purpose robots that build cars with synths that emulate their human equivalents? Doesn't make sense.
If a robot/synth breaks then you replace it - there's no overhead on long term medical costs, pension, salary, annual leave, sick, etc....In the first episode of season one the cost of 'Anita' was described as 'no more than we are paying for the car'. And it was a pretty ordinary car. I expect industrial units would be financed in a similar way to a fleet of small vans. Running costs would be lower than specialised robots and computers that require trained staff to manage. With a fleet of synths you just tell them what to do and they get on with it.
Thinking about it, people would probably lease their synth, and upgrade it every three years. Older synths could be purchased for manual jobs, seasonal jobs like fruit picking, or handing out leaflets. No need to worry about minimum wage, paid holiday, maternity, sickness, fag breaks.
Thinking about it, people would probably lease their synth, and upgrade it every three years. Older synths could be purchased for manual jobs, seasonal jobs like fruit picking, or handing out leaflets. No need to worry about minimum wage, paid holiday, maternity, sickness, fag breaks.
Edited by SpudLink on Monday 31st October 19:19
I got bored of series 1 quite early on, and I haven't read any of this thread. However, my missus is currently making me watch episode 1 of series 2, and I have a couple of questions:
1. Why is there no aftermarket? Body enhancements, dubious character upgeades and so on?
2. Why are the Chinese not knocking out cheap replicas, with slightly dodgy welding and flimsy plastics?
3. For that matter, why is nobody making competitive synths? If you want one, why is there only one manufscturer to choose from?
4. Why build a synth to stand at a desk saying "Can I help you?" and "Station number five.", when a touch screen computer could do that for a helluva lot less money?
5. Likewise, why not use a street sweeping machine rather than a synth?
I'm not trying to start a fight, and the first three of my questions are genuine. The last two are just belligerent
1. Why is there no aftermarket? Body enhancements, dubious character upgeades and so on?
2. Why are the Chinese not knocking out cheap replicas, with slightly dodgy welding and flimsy plastics?
3. For that matter, why is nobody making competitive synths? If you want one, why is there only one manufscturer to choose from?
4. Why build a synth to stand at a desk saying "Can I help you?" and "Station number five.", when a touch screen computer could do that for a helluva lot less money?
5. Likewise, why not use a street sweeping machine rather than a synth?
I'm not trying to start a fight, and the first three of my questions are genuine. The last two are just belligerent
SpudLink said:
Thinking about it, people would probably lease their synth, and upgrade it every three years. Older synths could be purchased for manual jobs, seasonal jobs like fruit picking, or handing out leaflets. No need to worry about minimum wage, paid holiday, maternity, sickness, fag breaks.
Yes but would there be uproar if synths from another country came to do the jobs that needed doing here because our synths won't get off their arses to do the jobs we wanted doing. Edited by SpudLink on Monday 31st October 19:19
speedking31 said:
The Don of Croy said:
...putting expensive synths to work with hand tools in a mine is almost beyond parody. Shoddy, lazy writing.
I agree. Would you really replace all the efficient built-for-purpose robots that build cars with synths that emulate their human equivalents? Doesn't make sense.Also why does it need any stimulation / input sensors after all it's only digging.
Morningside said:
I thought that as well. Why do the mining synths even require a face or any features at all? That would surely save on production costs.
Also why does it need any stimulation / input sensors after all it's only digging.
When a company supplies staff with a phone, the chances are they only need to make phone calls and access email. However they will probably buy an iPhone or similar, with a multitude of functionality that is not needed. A company that makes cheaper devices dedicated to a specific task are going to struggle in the marketplace against a corporate giant making a device that does everything. Also why does it need any stimulation / input sensors after all it's only digging.
If you buy 300 mining robots, you're stuck with 300 mining robots. Where as a standard synth can be re-purposed to any other role in the company, or sold to any other business, not just other mining companies.
227bhp said:
A bit of a lazy post so I must apologise, but I missed Sundays return episode, where can I watch it?
Sorry, but...definitely a lazy post. It's a Channel 4 program so how about 4OD? Oh , and as you are lazy, here's the link!
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/humans
SpudLink said:
When a company supplies staff with a phone, the chances are they only need to make phone calls and access email. However they will probably buy an iPhone or similar, with a multitude of functionality that is not needed. A company that makes cheaper devices dedicated to a specific task are going to struggle in the marketplace against a corporate giant making a device that does everything.
If you buy 300 mining robots, you're stuck with 300 mining robots. Where as a standard synth can be re-purposed to any other role in the company, or sold to any other business, not just other mining companies.
So the owner of the mining company switches them all to "adult mode" on days off and has a massive orgy. I like your thinking. If you buy 300 mining robots, you're stuck with 300 mining robots. Where as a standard synth can be re-purposed to any other role in the company, or sold to any other business, not just other mining companies.
james_tigerwoods said:
speedking31 said:
agree. Would you really replace all the efficient built-for-purpose robots that build cars with synths that emulate their human equivalents? Doesn't make sense.
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