Humans CH4

[Guvernator]

Beefmeister said:

This is what I came here to post. They can make a fully synthetic human, indistinguishable from us and get there's a woman in a wheelchair, everyone driving current cars and using normal mobile phones. Suspension of disbelief and all that, but it grates a little.

To be honest this is a well known trope with most "near future" films. Often set 5-10 years in the future but displaying some bit of technology intrinsic to the plot that we probably won't see for another 100 years. There is a reason for this of course, budget. It's a lot easier\cheaper to film in current times then try to set design or CGI a whole city that is meant to be set 100 years in the future.

[ali_kat]

Beefmeister said:

Jasandjules said:

RosscoPCole said:

It just didn't work for me. Personally I think it should have been set ten years in the future. I know this would have doubled the budget, but it would make it more plausible. I like the idea of the plot but there was something that was not right.

Yes, I found it odd to see 2005, 2008 plated cars in the car park when they've just bought a synthetic human which is many years away from us now.

This is what I came here to post. They can make a fully synthetic human, indistinguishable from us and get there's a woman in a wheelchair, everyone driving current cars and using normal mobile phones. Suspension of disbelief and all that, but it grates a little.

I liked that it was set 'now'

[Terminator X]

Pedants! You only have to look at 2000AD to see how wrong looking to the future can be

TX.

[bexVN]

I prefer the present time setting tbh, makes it more real to me. I see the point re the wheelchair user but at the same time medicine and technology is a bit like that. So many advances and yet still so much we can't do for ourselves yet.

[Guvernator]

bexVN said:

I prefer the present time setting tbh, makes it more real to me. I see the point re the wheelchair user but at the same time medicine and technology is a bit like that. So many advances and yet still so much we can't do for ourselves yet.

The only problem with the present setting is that it is very obvious that we don't have the technology to create artificial humans at present and probably won't have for quite a while so it's a bit jarring.

[ali_kat]

Guvernator said:

The only problem with the present setting is that it is very obvious that we don't have the technology to create artificial humans at present and probably won't have for quite a while so it's a bit jarring.

But it's a SciFi, you're meant to suspend reality

[ali_kat]

bexVN said:

I prefer the present time setting tbh, makes it more real to me. I see the point re the wheelchair user but at the same time medicine and technology is a bit like that. So many advances and yet still so much we can't do for ourselves yet.

Exactly, for example - Vets can do amazing prosthetics for animals now that we cannot do for Humans

[bexVN]

Guvernator said:

bexVN said:

I prefer the present time setting tbh, makes it more real to me. I see the point re the wheelchair user but at the same time medicine and technology is a bit like that. So many advances and yet still so much we can't do for ourselves yet.

The only problem with the present setting is that it is very obvious that we don't have the technology to create artificial humans at present and probably won't have for quite a while so it's a bit jarring.

I get round that by not thinking too much into it . Just the 'What if we did have that now?'. It's all poetic licence at the end of the day and just for entertaining. If it was a documentary based program that'd be different. We don't have zombies, yet people can't get enough of those shows (me included)

Edited by bexVN on Tuesday 16th June 11:17

[Guvernator]

bexVN said:

I get round that by not thinking too much into it . Just the 'What if we did have that now?'. It's all poetic licence at the end of the day and just for entertaining. If it was a documentary based program that'd be different. We don't have zombies, yet people can't get enough of those shows (me included)

The Zombie apocalypse WILL happen, it's just a matter of when not if!

I do get the whole suspension of disbelief thing otherwise I wouldn't be into Sci-fi at all. An outbreak of a virus could happen today (not necessarily zombies) as that is current technology that scientists mess around with all the time, however I work in the technology industry so I know that what they show in Humans just isn't possible right now in the slightest so it's difficult for my brain to switch of and reconcile what I am watching with reality in this case.

I know budget restrictions are a concern but they could easily base it "20 years in the future" and be a bit creative with set design to achieve the same effect without it being so jarring.

If you've watched the film Ex-machina which has a very similar premise, that was also a low budget movie but they've been very clever with what they show of the outside world so that you don't really know if it's set now or 50 years in the future.

[bexVN]

I can sympathise, esp if you're in the industry. Nothing worse than seeing your area of knowledge being potrayed incorrectly! Luckily for me technology is not my field of expertise so much easier for me to let it go

Not had chance to see Ex Machina, though want to, so behind with films, that's the trouble with young children

Edited by bexVN on Tuesday 16th June 12:22

[stuartmmcfc]

I thought it was a bit flat with not as many laughs as I'd expected.

[DrDoofenshmirtz]

It got me looking forward to next weeks episode - so a win from me.
I wonder what has been done to the 'special' synths...I guess they've been implanted with the 'human like emotion chip 2000' or some weird freaky stuff like they were once human beings (hence Anita's attachment to the kid, maybe she lost a child as an adult or something), but have been turned into synths.

[ajprice]

DrDoofenshmirtz said:

It got me looking forward to next weeks episode - so a win from me.
I wonder what has been done to the 'special' synths...I guess they've been implanted with the 'human like emotion chip 2000' or some weird freaky stuff like they were once human beings (hence Anita's attachment to the kid, maybe she lost a child as an adult or something), but have been turned into synths.

There were those 'flashbacks' to a car underwater… something going on there, and the looking at the moon thing. Odd.

[bexVN]

ajprice said:

DrDoofenshmirtz said:

It got me looking forward to next weeks episode - so a win from me.
I wonder what has been done to the 'special' synths...I guess they've been implanted with the 'human like emotion chip 2000' or some weird freaky stuff like they were once human beings (hence Anita's attachment to the kid, maybe she lost a child as an adult or something), but have been turned into synths.

There were those 'flashbacks' to a car underwater… something going on there, and the looking at the moon thing. Odd.

Another here who thought of the ex human approach

[Morningside]

bexVN said:

ajprice said:

DrDoofenshmirtz said:

It got me looking forward to next weeks episode - so a win from me.
I wonder what has been done to the 'special' synths...I guess they've been implanted with the 'human like emotion chip 2000' or some weird freaky stuff like they were once human beings (hence Anita's attachment to the kid, maybe she lost a child as an adult or something), but have been turned into synths.

There were those 'flashbacks' to a car underwater… something going on there, and the looking at the moon thing. Odd.

Another here who thought of the ex human approach

Are you saying it's an upgrade?

[bexVN]

Morningside said:

bexVN said:

ajprice said:

DrDoofenshmirtz said:

It got me looking forward to next weeks episode - so a win from me.
I wonder what has been done to the 'special' synths...I guess they've been implanted with the 'human like emotion chip 2000' or some weird freaky stuff like they were once human beings (hence Anita's attachment to the kid, maybe she lost a child as an adult or something), but have been turned into synths.

There were those 'flashbacks' to a car underwater… something going on there, and the looking at the moon thing. Odd.

Another here who thought of the ex human approach

Are you saying it's an upgrade?

I know . I almost mentioned them in my last post!

[DrDoofenshmirtz]

ajprice said:

DrDoofenshmirtz said:

It got me looking forward to next weeks episode - so a win from me.
I wonder what has been done to the 'special' synths...I guess they've been implanted with the 'human like emotion chip 2000' or some weird freaky stuff like they were once human beings (hence Anita's attachment to the kid, maybe she lost a child as an adult or something), but have been turned into synths.

There were those 'flashbacks' to a car underwater… something going on there, and the looking at the moon thing. Odd.

Ah yeah - so maybe they died and were brought back then - intriguing.

[Munter]

DrDoofenshmirtz said:

Ah yeah - so maybe they died and were brought back then - intriguing.

Family of the "mastermind" behind the design? Family dies in a car crash, and he sees an opportunity to keep them "alive".... Hence them and no others....

[Baron Greenback]

I am loving the program so far! I am looking it as a modern version of Blade runner set in Milton Keynes! The plot is so open with lots of hints of what is to come, should be a good series!

[Laurel Green]

Heads up.