The reboot/remake bandwagon rumbles on...
Discussion
marcosgt said:
Tuna said:
The first Daniel Craig Bond film was a cracking refresh, if not an outright reboot.
It was certainly a much needed refresh, but it owed a bit too much to the Bourne movies in hindsight (actually I said so at the time too 
)Maybe I'm odd though as I preferred the second one! Felt more Bond to me.
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Then did a re-write.Moonhawk said:
There are a few notable ones out there (The Hulk, Oceans 11, The Fly, The Thing, True Lies, the new Spiderman movie looks like it might be pretty good too) - but as you say, reboots are difficult to pull off.
The problem is, when you couple the fact that it's a reboot which is difficult to pull of anyway - with all female 'team up'/buddy movies which also tend to do quite badly - you are on to an almost definite loser.
Which Hulk? Pretty much all of the Hulk films I've seen are generic super hero films and pretty poor. The '82 Thing for sure, but that doesn't count as a modern reboot? They still made great mainstream films in the '80s, not so much these days. I didn't know True Lies was a remake, I'll have to check out the French version at some point. Its too early to tell with the new Spiderman film as the other two attempts aren't that bad, certainly a lot better than Hulk ever was. I'm also not a fan of constantly rehashing Spiderman's origin, that would almost certainly kill the film for me.The problem is, when you couple the fact that it's a reboot which is difficult to pull of anyway - with all female 'team up'/buddy movies which also tend to do quite badly - you are on to an almost definite loser.
Tuna said:
The first Daniel Craig Bond film was a cracking refresh, if not an outright reboot.
Bond is an interesting one, you could consider every time they changed the actor playing Bond the series was rebooted as each actor had a very different take from their direct predecessor. Casino Royale was a real high point for the series, and probably one of the few in the series that could stand alone without the Bond name.Halmyre said:
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The Maltese Falcon is based on a novel, so any new film version is just that, a new version, not a remake.
Ghostbusters is a remake because there's no original source from which to draw. Or is it a reboot?
I've always thought a remake kept pretty much everything the same while a reboot they apply a "twist" to it?The Maltese Falcon is based on a novel, so any new film version is just that, a new version, not a remake.
Ghostbusters is a remake because there's no original source from which to draw. Or is it a reboot?
chris watton said:
I thought it was called a 'flop'
It actually made a small profit, which I find depressing as it'll encourage them to make more dross /pedantAlexS said:
cirian75 said:
I wish they would go for the films that did poorly due to the original production/acting/budget being poor but had a very very good concept.
The remake of Death Race is one. The original had such a small budget that they couldn't afford to crash the cars.
The THing (best version) was based more on the short story, so perhaps more of a new version than a remake. The modern one, might be a reboot since it is before the older film? I've not seen it.
I liked John Cleese's take on Fierce Creatures, it's not a sequel, it's not a prequel, it's an equal.
I liked John Cleese's take on Fierce Creatures, it's not a sequel, it's not a prequel, it's an equal.
Halb said:
The THing (best version) was based more on the short story, so perhaps more of a new version than a remake. The modern one, might be a reboot since it is before the older film? I've not seen it.
I liked John Cleese's take on Fierce Creatures, it's not a sequel, it's not a prequel, it's an equal.
The modern one is a prequel to Carpenter's film, what happened at the Norwegian research base. Not awful, but pretty forgettable with too many jump scares and CGII liked John Cleese's take on Fierce Creatures, it's not a sequel, it's not a prequel, it's an equal.
Halb said:
I'll watch it when it's on t'telly.
One just now, Flight of the Navigator...would be good for a remake, or Last Starfighter.
ANy film that although it may be good/great, relies too heavily on the days tech, or puts itself too firmly in a time period.
Flight of the navigator is an odd one to me. It seems to start of as a serious sci-fi film and then goes all comedy.One just now, Flight of the Navigator...would be good for a remake, or Last Starfighter.
ANy film that although it may be good/great, relies too heavily on the days tech, or puts itself too firmly in a time period.
Halb said:
I'll watch it when it's on t'telly.
One just now, Flight of the Navigator...would be good for a remake, or Last Starfighter.
ANy film that although it may be good/great, relies too heavily on the days tech, or puts itself too firmly in a time period.
Flight is being remade isn't it? I'm sure I read that somewhere on here, though it may be like the current crop of being made into a tv series like Leathal Weapon and Uncle Buck. One just now, Flight of the Navigator...would be good for a remake, or Last Starfighter.
ANy film that although it may be good/great, relies too heavily on the days tech, or puts itself too firmly in a time period.
Halb said:
I'll watch it when it's on t'telly.
One just now, Flight of the Navigator...would be good for a remake, or Last Starfighter.
ANy film that although it may be good/great, relies too heavily on the days tech, or puts itself too firmly in a time period.
I watched Flight of the Navigator again recently and thought it had held up surprisingly well; the spaceship still looks cool all these years later, especially the interior, and the (limited) effects are ok. One just now, Flight of the Navigator...would be good for a remake, or Last Starfighter.
ANy film that although it may be good/great, relies too heavily on the days tech, or puts itself too firmly in a time period.
Tony Starks said:
Flight is being remade isn't it? I'm sure I read that somewhere on here, though it may be like the current crop of being made into a tv series like Leathal Weapon and Uncle Buck.
Yep I believe FOTN is on the list to be remade - as is Explorers.The last Starfighter was supposed to be getting a sequel.
Miguel Alvarez said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Other than film makers being incredibly lazy, I really don’t see the point in re-making films that were already successful in the past. There must be hundreds, thousands of films made previously that have great stories but were just very poorly executed. Either due to budgets, actors, directors or maybe SFX capabilities at the time, that bombed at the cinema and no one remembers. Surely it’s better to do these screenplays justice rather than simply re-hashing previous films because the formula has worked before.
I understand that the industry is primarily about making money, not art but the way things are going, we are just going to have the same films “re-imagined” every 10 years for the latest generation of movie goers.
Took the words right out of my mouth. I understand that the industry is primarily about making money, not art but the way things are going, we are just going to have the same films “re-imagined” every 10 years for the latest generation of movie goers.
.Chris Type R said:
Oddly enough, "The Bourne Identity" is a reboot of a fairly woeful 1988 movie.
EDIT: Watched about 10 minutes of the 2015 Point Break remake - terrible.
And Heat Michael Mann's remake of his own LA Takedown, sometimes more cash is good. EDIT: Watched about 10 minutes of the 2015 Point Break remake - terrible.
Although not in the case of Tony Scott ALien/Prometehus,
That's it. They really are taking the piss now!
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/fi...
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/fi...
Morningside said:
That's it. They really are taking the piss now!
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/fi...
It's not confirmed that it's a reboot. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/fi...
One of the stories I read suggested it could go in the same direction as Rogue One - expanding on the wider Matrix universe, telling a story that parallels the main movies - but from different characters perspectives.
Moonhawk said:
One of the stories I read suggested it could go in the same direction as Rogue One - expanding on the wider Matrix universe, telling a story that parallels the main movies - but from different characters perspectives.
I knew it, it's going to be the story of the white rabbit gang who turn up at Neo's door and get him to follow them to the club to see Trinity, at last we will know the truth. 
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