Kevin McCloud's Escape to the Wild
Discussion
Re the Fijian island...they could always lease the other bit out to an 'adventurer' wishing to make a programme about a group of men and one of women left to fend for themselves for 6 weeks.
Re the volcano...was I the only PHer to immediately type 'Paris Dakar truck for sale' into Google? Some cheap Tatras out there...in Central Europe though....probably cooler than a splitscreen bus!
Re the volcano...was I the only PHer to immediately type 'Paris Dakar truck for sale' into Google? Some cheap Tatras out there...in Central Europe though....probably cooler than a splitscreen bus!
Megaflow said:
Did anybody else think it was incrediably selfish of the parents to try and bring up children in that environment?
Sure it is beautiful and keeps them in touch with nature, etc. But children also need peers away from the family to develop
I thought that too, it seemed a bit Mosquito Coast to me (if anyone remembers that book/film).Sure it is beautiful and keeps them in touch with nature, etc. But children also need peers away from the family to develop
While I can see the appeal of escaping the rat race of the 1st world, I can't see what your gaining living like that? If your going to have to flog yourself to death just to exist they why not just live a more modest life here?
And of course the really big question about all three lives that we've seen is What happens if any of you get seriously hurt or sick?
And of course the really big question about all three lives that we've seen is What happens if any of you get seriously hurt or sick?
Loved the place with the volcano. Must be absolutely awesome but I'd never take the kids. That's just selfish.
Tonight's place why fake it at all? Oh I'm in the middle of nowhere I have to walk through the jungle. If that's the case how did that f
king pick up get there.
Also don't believe the bit about the guys helping for free just being allowed to cut branches from palms on his land.
Yeah dos there was such a shortage anywhere else in the vicinity.
Tonight's place why fake it at all? Oh I'm in the middle of nowhere I have to walk through the jungle. If that's the case how did that f
king pick up get there.Also don't believe the bit about the guys helping for free just being allowed to cut branches from palms on his land.
Yeah dos there was such a shortage anywhere else in the vicinity.
Out of the 3 I liked the Island episode even if it was a bit of a con and actually it was a successful business. The Volcano one I didn't get and the same with last nights. I understand about the wanting to be off the grid but it seems alot of work for just an existance.
What I worry about is what happens when the kids become older and want to try different things. They seem quite isolated from there peers and also limited in how to progress as individuals. There will come a time when they want to spread their wings and try different things but where do they go?
What I worry about is what happens when the kids become older and want to try different things. They seem quite isolated from there peers and also limited in how to progress as individuals. There will come a time when they want to spread their wings and try different things but where do they go?
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
I don't quite align myself with you there. I can imagine great satisfaction is gained from grafting like that.
You know how an occasional weekend of toil makes you stand back with pride? and how you plan it. Enjoy the sense of 'achieving' ....
Oh don't get me wrong I do appreciate the achievement, what he is doing, has done is amazing.You know how an occasional weekend of toil makes you stand back with pride? and how you plan it. Enjoy the sense of 'achieving' ....
What don't like is how perilous their existence is there, They must be able to work that hard all the time just to exist, which is fine while they can, but if they get hurt or sick or when they are older?
I just think you could achieve just as much some where a bit more civilised.
As for them not having any money, I don't think you would want to have anything remotely desirable as someone would just come along in the middle of the night and kill you to take it!
couldnt work out last nights at all.
the husband certainly had a bit of an edge to him. i felt it was more about him than his wife or the kids. his idea, his plan, his desire to never go home.
all the fake peril of belize city, walking through the jungle in the dark when the older kid walks to school, theyve got a pickup truck with a nice road outside their house.
the "palace" of rubbish that they dont want to live in, really?
the layout of the huts they have where the kids bedrooms were on the edges of the clearing closest to all the animals, guys with guns etc. mum and dad are safely tucked up in the middle of the other huts.
what are they going to do when the kids want to try the real world?
they apparently "dont use money" yet they have a truck and power and a nicely delivered 20 ton pile of builders sand.
the comment about "having to make do with Rum" made me laugh.
the husband certainly had a bit of an edge to him. i felt it was more about him than his wife or the kids. his idea, his plan, his desire to never go home.
all the fake peril of belize city, walking through the jungle in the dark when the older kid walks to school, theyve got a pickup truck with a nice road outside their house.
the "palace" of rubbish that they dont want to live in, really?
the layout of the huts they have where the kids bedrooms were on the edges of the clearing closest to all the animals, guys with guns etc. mum and dad are safely tucked up in the middle of the other huts.
what are they going to do when the kids want to try the real world?
they apparently "dont use money" yet they have a truck and power and a nicely delivered 20 ton pile of builders sand.
the comment about "having to make do with Rum" made me laugh.
Yes, it does seem as if he's put the best on as the first in the series rather than keeping it for last.
The start was a bit weird, the chances of him picking the correct random track through the jungle and ending up in the right place were so slim it made it not worth the charade. And I also wondered about the taxi - spent ages talking up how dangerous a place it was, then left him some distance from the bus station, but no mention of why. He's planting 800 trees to grow chocolate beans, spending ages protecting and nurturing them, but has no idea of what the yield will be and whether it's a complete waste of time.
Do these programme-makers think we have to have this jeopardy in every single programme? As this is about people living in the wild, can't we just dispense with all that and show us more actual content? OK, show us how hard is it to get there, how long it takes, make Kevin sleep in a guard hut for no apparent reason, but less of the manufactured excitement.
The bloke came across like several of the others have - completely intolerant of why anyone might want to stay in civilisation and be around other people, no understanding of why anyone else might not want to just risk everything and move to somewhere like that. (Which in my extremely limited experience is like most people who do something "different"). Sure, this particular family might have a great life, spend decades living as they have, but someone else might do the "what have I got to lose?" bit, get somewhere and die of something nasty after five days. And once this lot get fed up, they've got no money to move back into civilisation even if they want to. That's the kind of stuff that would prey on my mind - I couldn't just block out the thought that I've no safety cushion.
The start was a bit weird, the chances of him picking the correct random track through the jungle and ending up in the right place were so slim it made it not worth the charade. And I also wondered about the taxi - spent ages talking up how dangerous a place it was, then left him some distance from the bus station, but no mention of why. He's planting 800 trees to grow chocolate beans, spending ages protecting and nurturing them, but has no idea of what the yield will be and whether it's a complete waste of time.
Do these programme-makers think we have to have this jeopardy in every single programme? As this is about people living in the wild, can't we just dispense with all that and show us more actual content? OK, show us how hard is it to get there, how long it takes, make Kevin sleep in a guard hut for no apparent reason, but less of the manufactured excitement.
The bloke came across like several of the others have - completely intolerant of why anyone might want to stay in civilisation and be around other people, no understanding of why anyone else might not want to just risk everything and move to somewhere like that. (Which in my extremely limited experience is like most people who do something "different"). Sure, this particular family might have a great life, spend decades living as they have, but someone else might do the "what have I got to lose?" bit, get somewhere and die of something nasty after five days. And once this lot get fed up, they've got no money to move back into civilisation even if they want to. That's the kind of stuff that would prey on my mind - I couldn't just block out the thought that I've no safety cushion.
Edited by droopsnoot on Tuesday 23 June 11:26
The question I want Kevin to ask is what about medical emergencies, especially on the island and volcano.
I was fit and healthy when I had a heart attack back in 2009. Ambulance was with me in 5 mins and 10 mins later I was seeing a Cardio doc in A&E. The convenience of living in London.
A couple of years later I had an episode on the Greek island of Kos. It took 2 hours for the van known as an ambulance (the driver was just a driver) to arrive at the resort and then a 30km drive to a very filthy hospital. Luckily the doc on call was skilled and spoke very good English.
So when I holidayed at a mates mum's house on a tiny island in the Bahamas which involved a short airplane journey from Nassau to another island, a taxi to a jetty and then a small boat to my destination, I was a trifle worried.
Good medical help would have involved getting back to the bigger island, flying to Nassau and then an airliner to Miami.
I suppose if you want to live in 'paradise' and 'off the grid' you have to accept that what could normally be survived will probably kill you.
I was fit and healthy when I had a heart attack back in 2009. Ambulance was with me in 5 mins and 10 mins later I was seeing a Cardio doc in A&E. The convenience of living in London.
A couple of years later I had an episode on the Greek island of Kos. It took 2 hours for the van known as an ambulance (the driver was just a driver) to arrive at the resort and then a 30km drive to a very filthy hospital. Luckily the doc on call was skilled and spoke very good English.
So when I holidayed at a mates mum's house on a tiny island in the Bahamas which involved a short airplane journey from Nassau to another island, a taxi to a jetty and then a small boat to my destination, I was a trifle worried.
Good medical help would have involved getting back to the bigger island, flying to Nassau and then an airliner to Miami.
I suppose if you want to live in 'paradise' and 'off the grid' you have to accept that what could normally be survived will probably kill you.
Last night's was the first I've seen - I think I'll go back and watch the others.
I'm convinced there was more to the bloke than he was letting on. Initially it was "all for the kids" then it was "what I'd dreamed of as a child" and by the end of it he was protecting his land and family with a gun. All seemed a bit odd to me.
Whilst the kids may have a good childhood, I can't help but feel that their parents have trapped them. What will they have in terms of qualifications? Are they now destined to spend their life in Belize?
I'm convinced there was more to the bloke than he was letting on. Initially it was "all for the kids" then it was "what I'd dreamed of as a child" and by the end of it he was protecting his land and family with a gun. All seemed a bit odd to me.
Whilst the kids may have a good childhood, I can't help but feel that their parents have trapped them. What will they have in terms of qualifications? Are they now destined to spend their life in Belize?
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