Top Gear tonight...
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Silly to go out with a bang when the show has been torn from underneath them. Surprising we even got that final show last night anyway. I expected we would never see a final show. I enjoyed the footage they had and there were a few chuckles from me throughout.
There isn't really a lot more that could have been done. They showed the remaining footage they had with May and Hammond doing a few light hearted links between to tie it together. It was never going to be a proper show.
I also thought the ending was fitting. Very sombre. What more is there to say apart from thanks for watching and goodbye.
There isn't really a lot more that could have been done. They showed the remaining footage they had with May and Hammond doing a few light hearted links between to tie it together. It was never going to be a proper show.
I also thought the ending was fitting. Very sombre. What more is there to say apart from thanks for watching and goodbye.
durbster said:
That's the Clarkson who was instrumental in creating one of the most successful TV shows in history?
Since you apparently have a superior intellect, perhaps you could explain why you think that won't be difficult for Evans.
That's why I said "Clarkson's character" - I'm sure JC is a smart guy but the person he plays on top gear is deliberately a useless buffoon.Since you apparently have a superior intellect, perhaps you could explain why you think that won't be difficult for Evans.
I never said I had a superior intellect, just that I think you've got to be pretty easily pleased to enjoy Top Gear.
I don't think CE will have a difficult job to do a better job than JC simply because IMO JC has set the bar very low.
TheBALDpuma said:
durbster said:
That's the Clarkson who was instrumental in creating one of the most successful TV shows in history?
Since you apparently have a superior intellect, perhaps you could explain why you think that won't be difficult for Evans.
That's why I said "Clarkson's character" - I'm sure JC is a smart guy but the person he plays on top gear is deliberately a useless buffoon.Since you apparently have a superior intellect, perhaps you could explain why you think that won't be difficult for Evans.
I never said I had a superior intellect, just that I think you've got to be pretty easily pleased to enjoy Top Gear.
I don't think CE will have a difficult job to do a better job than JC simply because IMO JC has set the bar very low.
As I said, you're deluded if you think otherwise.
TheBALDpuma said:
durbster said:
That's the Clarkson who was instrumental in creating one of the most successful TV shows in history?
Since you apparently have a superior intellect, perhaps you could explain why you think that won't be difficult for Evans.
That's why I said "Clarkson's character" - I'm sure JC is a smart guy but the person he plays on top gear is deliberately a useless buffoon.Since you apparently have a superior intellect, perhaps you could explain why you think that won't be difficult for Evans.
I never said I had a superior intellect, just that I think you've got to be pretty easily pleased to enjoy Top Gear.
I don't think CE will have a difficult job to do a better job than JC simply because IMO JC has set the bar very low.
TheBALDpuma said:
That's why I said "Clarkson's character" - I'm sure JC is a smart guy but the person he plays on top gear is deliberately a useless buffoon.
I never said I had a superior intellect, just that I think you've got to be pretty easily pleased to enjoy Top Gear.
I don't think CE will have a difficult job to do a better job than JC simply because IMO JC has set the bar very low.
Yeh - because Chris Evans style of humor is so much more high-brow isn't it I never said I had a superior intellect, just that I think you've got to be pretty easily pleased to enjoy Top Gear.
I don't think CE will have a difficult job to do a better job than JC simply because IMO JC has set the bar very low.
London424 said:
The thing is 6-7 million people tune in to watch Top Gear. And it's not because it's a car review show. They tune in to watch the "characters".
Yep. TG as a car review show died years ago. Fifth gear trying to be just that is one of the reasons it doesn't do nearly as well.The internet killed the car review show. Why wait 6 months for the next series of TG to come around just to find out what a particular car is like - when you can look up hundreds of reviews instantly online - then simply pop down to the dealer and do your own road test. Some dealers will even lend you the car for days to do an extended test drive.
aeropilot said:
You do actually realise that Evans is a professional entertainer, not a serious and very experienced motoring journo, and has much less of a chance of turning a entertainment show involving cars, back into a more serious motoring show, than JC had of turning a factual motoring show into one that would appeal more to non-geeks, not to mention the fact that the BBC don't want a 'serious' motoring show. Evans has even admitted that despite his interest in cars, he's actually more interested in golf, so I have absolutely no doubt that the 'new' TG will be much more entertainment biased than the JC/JM/RH era of TG.
As I said, you're deluded if you think otherwise.
As I said, you're deluded if you think otherwise.
London424 said:
The thing is 6-7 million people tune in to watch Top Gear. And it's not because it's a car review show. They tune in to watch the "characters".
I'm not after a factual car TV show - I don't believe I said I was? As an enterntainment show JC's TG fell short for me as I did not find it entertaining. I believe that CE will do a better entertainment show, whether that's more car related or not.Those who think it will be easy to plug in a new team and keep Top Gear at the top of the viewing figures, might consider the viewing performance of "Fifth Gear" , which is a generally serious car-based programme, featuring quirky presenters - including a woman in the line up, knowledgeable racing drivers, a degree of humour, access to race circuits and the Millbrook proving ground. What could possibly go wrong?
Moonhawk said:
TheBALDpuma said:
That's why I said "Clarkson's character" - I'm sure JC is a smart guy but the person he plays on top gear is deliberately a useless buffoon.
I never said I had a superior intellect, just that I think you've got to be pretty easily pleased to enjoy Top Gear.
I don't think CE will have a difficult job to do a better job than JC simply because IMO JC has set the bar very low.
Yeh - because Chris Evans style of humor is so much more high-brow isn't it I never said I had a superior intellect, just that I think you've got to be pretty easily pleased to enjoy Top Gear.
I don't think CE will have a difficult job to do a better job than JC simply because IMO JC has set the bar very low.
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TheBALDpuma said:
As an enterntainment show JC's TG fell short for me as I did not find it entertaining.
Different strokes for different folks. I don't find Eastenders, the Voice, Call the Midwife etc entertaining - but plenty of people do.The fact that TG was as popular as it was over such a wide area demonstrates that they must have been doing something right.......but even the "most widely watched factual television programme in the world" can't please everyone.
London424 said:
TheBALDpuma said:
durbster said:
That's the Clarkson who was instrumental in creating one of the most successful TV shows in history?
Since you apparently have a superior intellect, perhaps you could explain why you think that won't be difficult for Evans.
That's why I said "Clarkson's character" - I'm sure JC is a smart guy but the person he plays on top gear is deliberately a useless buffoon.Since you apparently have a superior intellect, perhaps you could explain why you think that won't be difficult for Evans.
I never said I had a superior intellect, just that I think you've got to be pretty easily pleased to enjoy Top Gear.
I don't think CE will have a difficult job to do a better job than JC simply because IMO JC has set the bar very low.
My daughter loves Top Gear yet she hates car programmes...Truckosaurus said:
The new Evans Top Gear will also have the advantage of being a rating success just by being shown on BBC2 at 8pm on a Sunday night. They'll pick up millions of casual viewers just by being the least-worst option on the mainstream channels.
What time did Top Gear go out previously? Truckosaurus said:
The new Evans Top Gear will also have the advantage of being a rating success just by being shown on BBC2 at 8pm on a Sunday night. They'll pick up millions of casual viewers just by being the least-worst option on the mainstream channels.
I think a lot of TG fans will give it a chance - myself included. But if it doesn't work - I can see the ratings tailing off pretty quickly.Much as i'll miss Clarkson et-al, I hope the new team do a good job of it.
The best scenario for me would be for Clarkson et-al to do a new series in the vein of TG - and for the new new TG to be good as well. If the two series are staggered - we may get to see awesome cars for most of the year
I just hope the BBC don't try and go the 5th Gear route. TG was successful because of the cocking around in flash cars - not in spite of it.
RichB said:
Truckosaurus said:
The new Evans Top Gear will also have the advantage of being a rating success just by being shown on BBC2 at 8pm on a Sunday night. They'll pick up millions of casual viewers just by being the least-worst option on the mainstream channels.
What time did Top Gear go out previously? I can imagine there is going to be a lot of pressure and a lot of assistance in making sure the new TG is a success - limited or not.
Ignoring JC's punch for a second, there was a death knell on old TG so whoever and in whatever format it comes, BBC management will need new TG to be a success otherwise questions will be asked. Not from a "oh no, JC, JM and RH's new show is as popular as TG ever was", but in a purely financial and reputation route. I.e. BBC management cannot afford to let it fail.
Give it 3 years and the thing can go the way of the dodo as "we will all have forgotten about it".
And as for people pinning their hopes on CE - his "best" self generated show TFI Friday didn't run and run and run did it? 3, maybe 4 years worth? I forget.
Ignoring JC's punch for a second, there was a death knell on old TG so whoever and in whatever format it comes, BBC management will need new TG to be a success otherwise questions will be asked. Not from a "oh no, JC, JM and RH's new show is as popular as TG ever was", but in a purely financial and reputation route. I.e. BBC management cannot afford to let it fail.
Give it 3 years and the thing can go the way of the dodo as "we will all have forgotten about it".
And as for people pinning their hopes on CE - his "best" self generated show TFI Friday didn't run and run and run did it? 3, maybe 4 years worth? I forget.
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