Westworld (NO SPOILERS)

[Flip Martian]

FourWheelDrift said:

If the body being made in the field lab was significant could it be a host body ford was building to replace himself after he get's Delores to do an Arnold on him, so he can live on forever?

The goodbye handshake between Ford and Bernard was lingered on - a close up of their hands. Remembering "a simple handshake could give them away" could be a hint that Ford had built a replica of himself to attend the party, knowing what was about to happen. So it was the host that got shot.

That leaves it open for whether Hopkins signs on again or not. If he does, the host got shot; if not, it was him and the host being built in the field lab can be something else.

Hopkins only signed on for 1 season, initially.

[Lucas Ayde]

What a terrific finale and so good to see a new show that pretty much wraps itself up at the end of the season without leaving massive cliffhangers in order to build tension for a second season (which may never happen, although for WW it is happening thankfully).

Just enough threads still hanging to set the scene for S2.

[Flip Martian]

Yup, I really enjoyed it on the whole - a few plot holes and inconsistencies aside. Not been that hooked on a series in many years (not that I watch much tv but still).

I imagine it will be quite some bluray package when it comes out...

[JamieBeeston]

[vxr8mate]

What happened to Asley Stubbs (Luke Hemsworth)?

Last I saw he was knocked unconscious.

[bexVN]

vxr8mate said:

What happened to Asley Stubbs (Luke Hemsworth)?

Last I saw he was knocked unconscious.

I thought he had his throat slit but I could be wrong.

[ali_kat]

JamieBeeston said:

Stealing

[ali_kat]

Totally called it, much to my husbands disgust

Still sat enthralled

[Flip Martian]

bexVN said:

vxr8mate said:

What happened to Asley Stubbs (Luke Hemsworth)?

Last I saw he was knocked unconscious.

I thought he had his throat slit but I could be wrong.

Wrong indeed. He got jumped by 1 of those white faced indians. As with shouty, swearygirl who worked with Bernard - neither has been killed off.

Unless they choose not to sign up for season 2.

[TEKNOPUG]

I think that a more elegant solution may have been for Ford to kill all the Delos directors but then replace them with hosts. That way Westworld and the hosts could continue to live without any outside interference. But maybe that's series 2...

[Steve vRS]

Flip Martian said:

bexVN said:

vxr8mate said:

What happened to Asley Stubbs (Luke Hemsworth)?

Last I saw he was knocked unconscious.

I thought he had his throat slit but I could be wrong.

Wrong indeed. He got jumped by 1 of those white faced indians. As with shouty, swearygirl who worked with Bernard - neither has been killed off.

Unless they choose not to sign up for season 2.

Where did that story arc end ? Who were those white faced characters?

[Doofus]

So where has Rapey gone?

And what happened to the gang in facemasks to went around dismembering people in episode 3? Or 4. Or 5. Or something.

[bexVN]

Steve vRS said:

Flip Martian said:

bexVN said:

vxr8mate said:

What happened to Asley Stubbs (Luke Hemsworth)?

Last I saw he was knocked unconscious.

I thought he had his throat slit but I could be wrong.

Wrong indeed. He got jumped by 1 of those white faced indians. As with shouty, swearygirl who worked with Bernard - neither has been killed off.

Unless they choose not to sign up for season 2.

Where did that story arc end ? Who were those white faced characters?

Ahh yes I rememeber now!! I was thinking he was the one in with all the stationary characters, did think that was a brief end at the time, completely forgot he was out facing those guys, thank you.

[tankplanker]

ukaskew said:

We (think we) know that Maeve 'escaping' was all written, so I guess it's not a stretch to assume her recruiting the others was part of that story-arc and therefore isn't quite what we think it is.

I'm thinking it was all a test for Maeve, push her to her emotional limits and see if she goes off-script when she finally reaches the train. Does the pull of her memories of the old narrative with her child override her new scripted mission to escape?

It's by far my favourite story of the whole series, in part because it was a lot easier to follow than Delores, even if all is not as it seems.

I think she left her bag on the train, the bag that was given to her by Felix, I consider it likely that Ford programmed her to get to the train and drop off the bag. In the bag would be a suitable storage unit for the code for the Hosts, a potential backup plan in case his main plan did not work. He knew that Mauve would choose the daughter in the end, the daughter was her keystone memory and thus the most important thing for her. By sending Mauve rogue she created a diversion for the more competent staff while Ford executed his main plan.

The fact that Ford was so confident that Dolores and Teddy would end up at the beach he invited ALL of the board to a party he had staged there when Westworld is massive and the Hosts could have gone anywhere should give you an idea of the level of control he had over Dolores and Mauve, both seemingly rogue Hosts.

I think the security guards were also Hosts and Ford had turned down their aim to Imperial Stormtrooper levels.

Videos of what Elise was up to:
http://delosincorporated.com/video/intra/tablet.mp...
http://delosincorporated.com/assets/transmission.m...

[walm]

tankplanker said:

I think the security guards were also Hosts and Ford had turned down their aim to Imperial Stormtrooper levels.

Ha!
Nice.

[Flip Martian]

tankplanker said:

I think the security guards were also Hosts and Ford had turned down their aim to Imperial Stormtrooper levels.

I did think similar. That part of the ep was the only washout for me. Real Die Hard stuff.

[monthefish]

ukaskew said:

I'm thinking it was all a test for Maeve, push her to her emotional limits and see if she goes off-script when she finally reaches the train.

The train that Maeve got on (but got off again).

Was the train heading for the real world or Westworld?

I was thinking real world as thw whole narrative was that she was trying to escape, and the tannoy said 'thank you for visiting westworld'

but

I was thinking Westworld as it was the same train that took the guests into the park in the first(?) episode, and also Maeve was given the location of her 'daughter' in the park, so was she heading for there?

[trooperiziz]

tankplanker said:

think she left her bag on the train, the bag that was given to her by Felix, I consider it likely that Ford programmed her to get to the train and drop off the bag. In the bag would be a suitable storage unit for the code for the Hosts, a potential backup plan in case his main plan did not work. He knew that Mauve would choose the daughter in the end, the daughter was her keystone memory and thus the most important thing for her. By sending Mauve rogue she created a diversion for the more competent staff while Ford executed his main plan.

The way I interpreted that scene was that was Mauve breaking her programming and becoming fully concious. i.e. Meave was programmed to escape, but Mave didn't do that in the end, even though Maeve knew it was really her daughter, Maud made her own choice to go back.

[Patrick Bateman]

monthefish said:

The train that Maeve got on (but got off again).

Was the train heading for the real world or Westworld?

I was thinking real world as thw whole narrative was that she was trying to escape, and the tannoy said 'thank you for visiting westworld'

but

I was thinking Westworld as it was the same train that took the guests into the park in the first(?) episode, and also Maeve was given the location of her 'daughter' in the park, so was she heading for there?

Not sure I follow the latter? She got on the train to leave Westworld but got off before it left, don't see any more to it.

[NJK44]

JamieBeeston said:

That's brilliant