Westworld (NO SPOILERS)

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Flip Martian

19,626 posts

190 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Halb said:
Maeve's assistants? She fiddled with their build.

I guess we'll find out what happened to stocky, ugly THor next series?
The white faced natives weren't anything to do with Maeve's storyline? They were involved in the William/train/confeds ons.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Flip Martian said:
The white faced natives weren't anything to do with Maeve's storyline? They were involved in the William/train/confeds ons.
I thought I only heard 'stop all motor function' on Maeve's mates.

Flip Martian

19,626 posts

190 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Halb said:
I thought I only heard 'stop all motor function' on Maeve's mates.
Yeah you did but I was talking specifically about Thor's brother's last scene with the Indians - he said the same thing and they took no notice.

ukaskew

10,642 posts

221 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Out of interest, when annoying English bloke goes down to cold-storage near the end and everyone is gone, what's the deal there?

FourWheelDrift

88,494 posts

284 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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ukaskew said:
Out of interest, when annoying English bloke goes down to cold-storage near the end and everyone is gone, what's the deal there?
Aren't they the ones Ford has got to attack the VIPs.

AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

153 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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FourWheelDrift said:
ukaskew said:
Out of interest, when annoying English bloke goes down to cold-storage near the end and everyone is gone, what's the deal there?
Aren't they the ones Ford has got to attack the VIPs.
I assumed the same, although they moved pretty quickly as Meave and co were down there getting Bernard online.

Vantagemech

5,728 posts

215 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Where did Dolores father (with the data) go? Did he leave on the train?

Was Maeves escape to the train simply the beginning of another story - IE the cowboy in Dolores script?

Fords hand was certainly odd, Bernard gave him an incredibly odd look as he started the speech.

Also MIB gave Bernard an odd look at the finale, though when would they have met?

Love the fact that Bernards name was an anagram of Alberts.. lots of little things to notice...




AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

153 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Vantagemech said:
Also MIB gave Bernard an odd look at the finale, though when would they have met?
Perhaps at some point 30 years ago when William/MIB bought the majority share in the parks. Although if the 'incident' happened before William first visited Arnold would have already been dead.

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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As ever a very helpful summary here:
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/12/westwo...

Gretchen

19,029 posts

216 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Vantagemech said:
Love the fact that Bernards name was an anagram of Alberts.. lots of little things to notice...
Who in hell's name is Albert?!? And how is that an anagram of Bernard? Another poster keeps mentioning Maud too?

No wonder you're all suprised by finale! You've invented your own characters hehe


ukaskew

10,642 posts

221 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Gretchen said:
Who in hell's name is Albert?!? And how is that an anagram of Bernard? Another poster keeps mentioning Maud too?

No wonder you're all suprised by finale! You've invented your own characters hehe
To be fair, it took me about 7 episodes to begin to remember character names beyond the main few. I wasn't until I watched the final 3 pretty much back to back within days that it started to really click.

Binge watching at the end really, really helped. I almost found it impossible to follow watching week to week.

RizzoTheRat

25,140 posts

192 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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AndrewEH1 said:
Perhaps at some point 30 years ago when William/MIB bought the majority share in the parks. Although if the 'incident' happened before William first visited Arnold would have already been dead.
Arnold died before the park opened, William's future brother in law (can never remember names) had already been several times so the park must have been open for a fair while.

AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

153 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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RizzoTheRat said:
AndrewEH1 said:
Perhaps at some point 30 years ago when William/MIB bought the majority share in the parks. Although if the 'incident' happened before William first visited Arnold would have already been dead.
Arnold died before the park opened, William's future brother in law (can never remember names) had already been several times so the park must have been open for a fair while.
My question is did Logan and William actually meet/see any other guests in the park? (Honestly can't remember!)

If they didn't maybe there were their to assess it for investment just after the incident happened in order to let the park open? Although it seemed like Logan had been there before as you say.

ICallCustard

163 posts

90 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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AndrewEH1 said:
RizzoTheRat said:
AndrewEH1 said:
Perhaps at some point 30 years ago when William/MIB bought the majority share in the parks. Although if the 'incident' happened before William first visited Arnold would have already been dead.
Arnold died before the park opened, William's future brother in law (can never remember names) had already been several times so the park must have been open for a fair while.
My question is did Logan and William actually meet/see any other guests in the park? (Honestly can't remember!)

If they didn't maybe there were their to assess it for investment just after the incident happened in order to let the park open? Although it seemed like Logan had been there before as you say.
Didn't Logan mention something about playing it all white hat the first time he went, then subsequently enjoyed it more being a bad ass?

AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

153 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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ICallCustard said:
Didn't Logan mention something about playing it all white hat the first time he went, then subsequently enjoyed it more being a bad ass?
I'm sure he did.

Also, as a parallel thought, wasn't it mentioned that Delos' investment was the only thing that saved the park after the incident?

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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AndrewEH1 said:
ICallCustard said:
Didn't Logan mention something about playing it all white hat the first time he went, then subsequently enjoyed it more being a bad ass?
I'm sure he did.

Also, as a parallel thought, wasn't it mentioned that Delos' investment was the only thing that saved the park after the incident?
Surely in Pariah at the orgy there were a bunch of guests?
You wouldn't just have hosts randomly getting it on would you?

My guess: Logan dies/goes irretrievably mad after being abandoned by William. William returns to marry his fiancee and is promoted to Logan's old position and become senior enough to sign off on bailing out WestWorld sometime shortly thereafter, as well as becoming the face of that business (such that other guests recognise and thank him for saving their sisters!).

AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

153 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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walm said:
Surely in Pariah at the orgy there were a bunch of guests?
You wouldn't just have hosts randomly getting it on would you?

My guess: Logan dies/goes irretrievably mad after being abandoned by William. William returns to marry his fiancee and is promoted to Logan's old position and become senior enough to sign off on bailing out WestWorld sometime shortly thereafter, as well as becoming the face of that business (such that other guests recognise and thank him for saving their sisters!).
Ford or Bernard did say that the host interact with each other in order to 'self correct' or something like that, plus having lots of naked hosts about would definitely help guests relax and get into it.

Also about the bold bit, that still hasn't been explain too well. I guess Delos does medical things too outwith the park (maybe the cure every disease thing?)

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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AndrewEH1 said:
I guess Delos does medical things too outwith the park (maybe the cure every disease thing?)
I am not 100% sure that Delos = MiB's company.
MiB's company owns a majority holding in Delos, that's for sure.
But it could be entirely separate otherwise and have plenty of other different interests.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Flip Martian said:
Yeah you did but I was talking specifically about Thor's brother's last scene with the Indians - he said the same thing and they took no notice.
Riiiiiight...interesting....the medieval warriors seem to a bit off campus, part of Ford's plan before bringing all the out of use extras back in?

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Halb said:
Flip Martian said:
Yeah you did but I was talking specifically about Thor's brother's last scene with the Indians - he said the same thing and they took no notice.
Riiiiiight...interesting....the medieval warriors seem to a bit off campus, part of Ford's plan before bringing all the out of use extras back in?
Are you talking about the Samurai?
They are nothing to do with the Native American's who attacked Thor's brother.