Westworld (NO SPOILERS)

[Guvernator]

In a similar vein I like how that other host noticed that Delores wasn't where she was supposed to be and tried to persuade her to go back home. I also like how he acquiesces sharpish when William says she's with me, obviously the wishes of the guests supersede a lot of the built in safety programming.

Probably all kinds of hidden programming like that in place to try to keep things on track, otherwise with so many hosts running around and guests going off on rampages, you'd pretty much end up with chaos on a daily basis. They do seem to give the guests A LOT of leeway though, far too much in some instances it seems which is unusual in a theme park type scenario where the rules are pretty restrictive. I can see this paving the way for some interesting scenarios later on, what happens if a guest orders a host to hurt another guest?

[JamieBeeston]

Guvernator said:

In a similar vein I like how that other host noticed that Delores wasn't where she was supposed to be and tried to persuade her to go back home. I also like how he acquiesces sharpish when William says she's with me, obviously the wishes of the guests supersede a lot of the built in safety programming.

I think he was retrieval squad, not another host.

[Guvernator]

JamieBeeston said:

I think he was retrieval squad, not another host.

Really, I didn't get that at all or I must have missed something?

[FourWheelDrift]

Guvernator said:

My theory is MiB might be a board member hence why he is given so much free reign.

Or the other man in black, the guest who arrived with the guy who's now with Delores. He mentioned business earlier when talking to him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uOc8G7YPgc

Edited by FourWheelDrift on Wednesday 26th October 16:11

[4x4Tyke]

Guvernator said:

JamieBeeston said:

I think he was retrieval squad, not another host.

Really, I didn't get that at all or I must have missed something?

There was a preceding scene in the control room were she was thought to be a stray and it was unclear if she was "with a guest" because of Fords changes to the narrative.

[4x4Tyke]

The deep level maze is reminiscent of the Greek Labyrinth



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labyrinth

Fords meeting with Cullen, in what appears as (Raj) India setting suggests there might be some other discontinued settings.

Edited by 4x4Tyke on Wednesday 26th October 17:17

[FourWheelDrift]

4x4Tyke said:

Fords meeting with Cullen, in what suggests a (Raj) India suggest there might be some other discontinued settings.

Well the film included Medieval World and Roman World, there was also a follow up film called Future World so they could be something to do with those and the 30 year ago problem.

[Guvernator]

4x4Tyke said:

Fords meeting with Cullen, in what suggests a (Raj) India suggest there might be some other discontinued settings.

Really? Looked more like a typical South American villa\plantation type place to me which is in line with the wild west setting. I don't think we've had any indication that there are\have been other worlds so far.

The rumour mill suggests there will be but nothing really concrete yet except a line that could be interpreted by one of the show writers to say it might happen.

[davepoth]

4x4Tyke said:

Fords meeting with Cullen, in what suggests a (Raj) India suggest there might be some other discontinued settings.

Looked like a Mexican hacienda to me, which would be a bit more like it.

[4x4Tyke]

I was thinking Tea plantation mostly based on the waiters dress style seeming to be Indian; it doesn't appear western to me. The building style also seems more colonial not the stereotypical american southern plantation.

--edit--

Googling Hacienda does seem more plausible with hindsight now its been pointed out.

Edited by 4x4Tyke on Wednesday 26th October 20:22

[Halb]

The place is fking huge.

[pidsy]

The big mining type machine - is the boss having a re-model?

[Smollet]

I've given up on it. For me it was far too disjointed and up its own arse.

[Halb]

pidsy said:

The big mining type machine - is the boss having a re-model?

Nice to see a bit of the outside world tech. Might mean he is ripping up the old story (whatever that is) and destroying in order to create.

[vixen1700]

Smollet said:

I've given up on it. For me it was far too disjointed and up its own arse.

Got through 3/4 of the last one and switched it off. Totally agree.

[chris watton]

vixen1700 said:

Smollet said:

I've given up on it. For me it was far too disjointed and up its own arse.

Got through 3/4 of the last one and switched it off. Totally agree.

Yep. I know some are lauding this as GoT replacement, but to be honest, all of my family have stopped watching it except me. By the 4th episode of GoT, everyone was hooked.
It may be clever (and I am still enjoying it, but not on a GoT level), but I am thinking it is perhaps trying to be too clever for its own good, and viewing figures may reflect this.

Edited by chris watton on Thursday 27th October 11:46

[Halb]

Problems with expectations?

The only people who looked forward to GoT were the readers and general fans of fantasy. It was pretty low key.
Now HBo are in need of a new hit, and everyone is looking to Westworld. It may die under the weight of it's own expectations.

I think at the time, Boardwalk Empire was designed to be the channel's premier show.

[chris watton]

Halb said:

Problems with expectations?

The only people who looked forward to GoT were the readers and general fans of fantasy. It was pretty low key.
Now HBo are in need of a new hit, and everyone is looking to Westworld. It may die under the weight of it's own expectations.

I think at the time, Boardwalk Empire was designed to be the channel's premier show.

I looked forward to the new GoT and was completely oblivious to the books and/or its place in the fantasy genre.

[Halb]

chris watton said:

I looked forward to the new GoT and was completely oblivious to the books and/or its place in the fantasy genre.

I also looked forward to it, being ignorant of Martin, but loving fantasy as a genre that had been ignored or only ever done poorly on telly. GoT was a pretty small start, BW was pushed a lot. I think HBO have grown a lot since then, with HBO Go and the fervour over GoT. They are also acutely aware that they don't have a replacement, as GoT winds down.
The design behind this programme reveals the level of thought gone into the details behind it.
I wanted to watch GoT, but I didn't expect anything from it. I expect quite a lot from WW, thanks to the conglomeration of HBO, new big series, film history, net whispers push etc.

[bexVN]

Halb said:

Problems with expectations?

The only people who looked forward to GoT were the readers and general fans of fantasy. It was pretty low key.
Now HBo are in need of a new hit, and everyone is looking to Westworld. It may die under the weight of it's own expectations.

I think at the time, Boardwalk Empire was designed to be the channel's premier show.

I don't agree with this. I was completely unaware of the books when I first starting watching. I just saw the trailers and was impressed by what I saw, not been disappointed so far!