Deadpool = proper rated R Disney/Marvell film
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I saw it Saturday and wasn't really a fan. For me there were a few big plot issues that affected the motivation I couldn't work past. I liked the start where he was painted as a lovable rogue. He takes one compliment and gets with 1 woman. Then out of nowhere you find out he has the self esteem of a teenage girl and can't cope with seeing his apparently perfect partner and has to live with a blind woman. That eggshell thin ego then affects pretty much everything from that point on. I can see why it would bother him or be upsetting in the same way beast struggled in the xmen, but for me it came out of nowhere that his vanity was such a big part of his character. That could have done with a lot more work to make the rest seem believable from a motivation point of view.
Most of the rest I can look part but that was too big for me. The humor seemed puerile to me and tried too hard. I was worn out off all the to camera quips by the end. The xmen tie in seemed cheap and unnecessary as DP even said. That said the cinema roared with laughter and I had a good few laughs too. For me it's ok but not the best superhero film or even really a very good film.
Most of the rest I can look part but that was too big for me. The humor seemed puerile to me and tried too hard. I was worn out off all the to camera quips by the end. The xmen tie in seemed cheap and unnecessary as DP even said. That said the cinema roared with laughter and I had a good few laughs too. For me it's ok but not the best superhero film or even really a very good film.
Mr Will said:
Buzz word said:
...it came out of nowhere that his vanity was such a big part of his character...
I think the process that disfigured his face likely did quite a lot of psychological damage too. SpudLink said:
I'm not really familiar with the source material, but I was under the impression that Deadpool was driven insane by his 'origin story', much like The Punisher.
He wasn't the full load to begin with, he has a tit-for-tat with Baccarin about who has had the most abusive childhood, his humour is a coping mechanism he has developed to deal with his sh*tty life. The subsequent torture he gets put through at the clinic to bring out his latent abilities sends him fully over the edge although he does retain his sense of humour and arguably it gets better\worse depending on your point of view. He even has a little bet with Ajax over whether he will retain it which he wins
Well I enjoyed it, as did the misses. She got to ogle Ryan Reynolds and I got to look at the female eye candy, particularly when she was wearing those stockings 
. Like others have said Gina C seems to have put on a bit of weight since her other films, she almost looks like a different person from when she was in Haywire.
Liked the dark humour and irony throughout. Hope they make a sequel where they can concentrate more on the character getting up to mischief while kicking some ass.
. Like others have said Gina C seems to have put on a bit of weight since her other films, she almost looks like a different person from when she was in Haywire.Liked the dark humour and irony throughout. Hope they make a sequel where they can concentrate more on the character getting up to mischief while kicking some ass.
Halb said:
Mr Will said:
I think the process that disfigured his face likely did quite a lot of psychological damage too.
Yeah, I reckon that'd affect the vast majority fairly heavily!Buzz word said:
Fair point, He just seemed exactly the same apart from the physical. The humor to cope with his awful upbringing was fair enough. Maybe the dark humor element just needed to be a little less pre change to emphasize how utterly unbalanced he was after. I just didn't get that 2 face or joker psychosis vibe from it.
He gains the 4th wall ability after he goes through the torture experience which is quite a big change. I can't remember the exact details but apparently as Wade he doesn't do it and it's only after he spends time in the clinic and becomes Deadpool that he starts to talk to camera. It's almost like another superpower, the torture sends him so far out there that it alters his perception of reality.Wolverine 3 going R nothing to do with Deadpool
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Saw it today, liked it.
Not as violent as expected, about as funny as I expected, very enteraining way to spend an afternoon off. It was clear that the budget was way below what is normal for a superhero film and they adopted it well.
Clearly it was also along the lines of "Well Kickass and Kingsman got away with it, how far can we push it?" with regard to the violent content and the sex scenes were stronger that I was expecting too. I think the DVD release will feature a harder cut (despite what has been talked about in the media.) and that will make the film better if it's the case.
And although I was expecting a post credit sting with another X Men character, it was excellent one for an 80's kid like yours truly.
A sound 7.5/10.
Not as violent as expected, about as funny as I expected, very enteraining way to spend an afternoon off. It was clear that the budget was way below what is normal for a superhero film and they adopted it well.
Clearly it was also along the lines of "Well Kickass and Kingsman got away with it, how far can we push it?" with regard to the violent content and the sex scenes were stronger that I was expecting too. I think the DVD release will feature a harder cut (despite what has been talked about in the media.) and that will make the film better if it's the case.
And although I was expecting a post credit sting with another X Men character, it was excellent one for an 80's kid like yours truly.
A sound 7.5/10.
Moominator said:
I watched a uncensored trailer this morning. Either I dont get it (I hated Zoolander on the first viewing but loved it after) or its trying to be funny. It irritated me.
The humour is a bit quirky. It seems most including me, really liked it but some people have stated they didn't get on with it.MiniMan64 said:
Halb said:
Some very good points there.In the 2000s we started getting sequels and prequels that were rated much lower than the franchise on which they were based on. This was presumably done as a cynical marketing ploy to try and up the available audience and resulted in some terrible films that were cut to death just to meet those ratings- or movies which lost the edge that the originals had.
We also started getting remakes of movies that were "dark and gritty" - again with mixed success.
I can see Holywood going the opposite way now - making movies or franchises r-rated for the sake of it, or introducing unnecessary levels or humour - thinking they will have a winning formula in doing so. If this is the case - they will have totally missed the point.
There is no one size fits all formula - each movie has to be taken on it's merits, has to have a good story and has to be as dark or as humorous as the characters and setting require. Just throwing in some toilet humour, puns or some 4th wall breaking won't instantly make for good films.
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