Deadpool = proper rated R Disney/Marvell film

Deadpool = proper rated R Disney/Marvell film

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Guvernator

13,144 posts

165 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Unfortunately in the majority of cases, films are made by committee which is sort of understandable given the huge budgets involved. Unfortunately the people with the money making the decisions aren't naturally going to be in tune or even aware of the nuances and 30+ years of back-story that a lot of these characters have.

They will do anything which is likely to increase the chance of a return on their investment which means if an R rated movie was successful, we will get R-rated movies until it stops working or something else comes along. The same thing happened with the "dark and gritty" movement that occurred last time round where for years we got dark and gritty for films which didn't even suit that tone. Hollywood is a dumb, lumbering beast that follows it's money-making instinct almost blindly which is why I take the good films when they come and am not surprised at the amount average they produce.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Screen Junkies discuss the top rated r comic book based films.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmXzqn66Pfc



irocfan

40,388 posts

190 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Halb said:
Screen Junkies discuss the top rated r comic book based films.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmXzqn66Pfc
enjoyable, thanks for that

nicklambo

74 posts

164 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Good to see Dredd at number 1.....anyone who has not seen it.....go buy it...turn up the volume and watch it now...!

cirian75

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4,254 posts

233 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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nicklambo said:
Good to see Dredd at number 1.....anyone who has not seen it.....go buy it...turn up the volume and watch it now...!
I bought the DVD, the blueray and on amazon to help get the figures up.

It was the US distributor who CBA advertising it that made it fail in the cinemas in the US, not the film.

Guvernator

13,144 posts

165 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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cirian75 said:
I bought the DVD, the blueray and on amazon to help get the figures up.

It was the US distributor who CBA advertising it that made it fail in the cinemas in the US, not the film.
Agreed, brilliant film. I really really hope they make a sequel with a slightly better budget.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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I can see that happening.
1 Days of Future Past (2014) $748,121,534
2 The Last Stand (2006) $459,359,555
3 The Wolverine (2013) $414,828,246
4 X2 (2003) $407,711,549
5 Origins: Wolverine (2009) $373,062,864
6 First Class (2011) $353,624,124
7 X-Men (2000) $296,339,527
Deadpool (2016) film currently playing $609,805,905

Guvernator

13,144 posts

165 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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Halb said:
I can see that happening.
1 Days of Future Past (2014) $748,121,534
2 The Last Stand (2006) $459,359,555
3 The Wolverine (2013) $414,828,246
4 X2 (2003) $407,711,549
5 Origins: Wolverine (2009) $373,062,864
6 First Class (2011) $353,624,124
7 X-Men (2000) $296,339,527
Deadpool (2016) film currently playing $609,805,905
I was talking about Dread but that also applies equally to Deadpool. wink

ajprice

27,452 posts

196 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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Halb said:
I can see that happening.
1 Days of Future Past (2014) $748,121,534
2 The Last Stand (2006) $459,359,555
3 The Wolverine (2013) $414,828,246
4 X2 (2003) $407,711,549
5 Origins: Wolverine (2009) $373,062,864
6 First Class (2011) $353,624,124
7 X-Men (2000) $296,339,527
Deadpool (2016) film currently playing $609,805,905
Are the figures for the other films the box office figures or including DVD/Blu-Ray/digital ?

SpudLink

5,748 posts

192 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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Remember, with great power larger budget comes great responsibility more interference from the bean counters.

I really enjoyed the film, but raised expectations for a sequel could lead to a big letdown when it all arrives. If it's only 'quite good', it will be seen as a failure.

dub16v

1,119 posts

141 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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Saw this last night, it was great! A solid 9/10.

Guvernator

13,144 posts

165 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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SpudLink said:
Remember, with great power larger budget comes great responsibility more interference from the bean counters.

I really enjoyed the film, but raised expectations for a sequel could lead to a big letdown when it all arrives. If it's only 'quite good', it will be seen as a failure.
^^^^ This, I think this film worked because it was made by people who really wanted to make a proper Deadpool movie and they managed to persuade someone to take a small gamble on their vision, £50m is nothing for a film of this nature. Given it's success though, I'd expect the sequels budget to be tripled which will bring a whole host of other decision makers into the frame and with increased budget will come increased risk aversion.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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Guvernator said:
I was talking about Dread but that also applies equally to Deadpool. wink
Ahh, er...I knew that...as you were. hehe

ajprice said:
Are the figures for the other films the box office figures or including DVD/Blu-Ray/digital ?
Just box office. Home revenue is $620 million (for the first 6 films, $70mill for the last one). Potter made over 3 billion home revenue.

lemmingjames

7,455 posts

204 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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Guvernator said:
^^^^ This, I think this film worked because it was made by people who really wanted to make a proper Deadpool movie and they managed to persuade someone to take a small gamble on their vision, £50m is nothing for a film of this nature. Given it's success though, I'd expect the sequels budget to be tripled which will bring a whole host of other decision makers into the frame and with increased budget will come increased risk aversion.
Like the Expendables;
1 - 18
2 - 15
3 - 12

Turned out to be a joke in the end chasing the money

MiniMan64

16,899 posts

190 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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One hopes that studios would be smart enough to see that a big budget would not be required for a sequel, merely letting the same creative team and Reynolds do their thing.

It's a shame Jackman is hanging up his claws, I can see an R-Rated Deadpool vs Wolverine making some serious cash.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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Or Alien or Terminator.
Robocop too,I think?

FourWheelDrift

88,494 posts

284 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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Although Kick Ass 2 wasn't as good as Kick Ass, it had a smaller budget.

Deadpool 2 with have a small budget says writers - http://www.gamespot.com/articles/deadpool-sequel-w...

justin220

5,337 posts

204 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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Watched it last night and didnt have expectations, and thought it was awful. Worst film I have seen this year.

People were actually walking out which I have not seen happpn for a while.

Eta - my mate who I was with loved it, and it seems to be getting rave reviews, so it must be me. I normally enjoy almost any film. It just felt a bit try hard to be funny.

The girl from Homeland is smoking, she looks younger in Deadpool which is 5 years later than Homeland

Edited by justin220 on Wednesday 2nd March 18:52

Digitalize

2,850 posts

135 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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Decidedly average film, 7/10 at best really. Few funny jokes but mainly trying a bit hard, and nothing plot wise to back it up.

Lucas Ayde

3,557 posts

168 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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cirian75 said:
I bought the DVD, the blueray and on amazon to help get the figures up.

It was the US distributor who CBA advertising it that made it fail in the cinemas in the US, not the film.
Superb film - they obviously didn't have a huge budget for vfx and sets like the earlier Stallone travesty but Karl Urban really nailed the Dredd character.

Great 3D on the bluray, too.

If the current mania for R rated comic book/superhero movies results in 'Dredd 2' it will have been worth it.