Amazon prime sign 'top gear' trio

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Flipatron

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198 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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I wonder who owns the rights to the new show?

SWoll

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258 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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tubs said:
Digitalize said:
With Netflix constantly doing excellently with their acquirement of shows, I'd just assumed it would definitely be Netflix, and now I'm disappointed.

Won't be signing up just to watch this.
My thoughts exactly , can't justice Amazon's poor content just for this. Think they have made a big mistake as Netflix is established and would keep a large part of their audience. Amazon is to unestablished to the UK market. Think they have sold out and just chased the highest bidder..very sad for the viewers
Amazons content has been steadily improving for quite a while now with shows like Bosch, Vikings, Transparent etc + you get the free next day delivery + prime music + kindle library. For me it's a no brainer, but then I do also get Netflix.

ukaskew

10,642 posts

221 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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God bless the Internet, with no factual basis whatsoever people are sure that Netflix were after them and that they've gone to Amazon for the cash grab...with a figure that cannot be traced back anywhere.

They might just have gone to the one place available that has given them a decent budget and absolute creative freedom (in fact that's exactly what Wilman has said), but that would be too positive a story, presumably.

Blib

44,039 posts

197 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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I suppose that there's the possibility that the new show may not solely concentrate on items related to vehicles.

jmorgan

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284 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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You mean they may have to advertise other stuff? "Sale on in women handbags department", "sign up for prime, it really is good" "Black Friday deals coming up, avoid the real fights and do it on line"

never ready

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132 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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I got signed up by accident after not cancelling my free trial. But its worked out for the best I use the free post all the time and watch more programs on prime than the bbc, catching up on vikings and black sails at the moment.

I'm not fussed about the £80 for prime, what grips my sh*t is the bbc tv tax, the idea is ok but the way they blow their free money makes me sick, and I'm not on about big bucks for Evans and the like (if you pay peanuts you get monkeys, see 5th gear). only half of the £4b goes on programs god knows where the rest goes, £12m on taxi's £1.5 on first class flights £X mill on some duff art to hang in the tv centre

DonkeyApple

55,251 posts

169 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Blib said:
I suppose that there's the possibility that the new show may not solely concentrate on items related to vehicles.
idea Books. smile

DonkeyApple

55,251 posts

169 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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ukaskew said:
God bless the Internet, with no factual basis whatsoever people are sure that Netflix were after them and that they've gone to Amazon for the cash grab...with a figure that cannot be traced back anywhere.

They might just have gone to the one place available that has given them a decent budget and absolute creative freedom (in fact that's exactly what Wilman has said), but that would be too positive a story, presumably.
I also don't think that people are fully grasping that Amazon is not only 5 times larger than Netflix but has genuine revenues that absolutely dwarf them.

At the values we are talking about here it's arguably too big a deal for Netflix to risk in terms of fall out if a failure.

I suspect that globally Amazon has the best ability to monetise all those eyeballs. I'm not sure that Netflix has anywhere near the global penetration that Amazon has.

And then there is the product placement and merchandising side for Amazon's traditional business.

But as you say, I'm not sure how conclusions about whiting to the highest bidder can be drawn etc.

DonkeyApple

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169 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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never ready said:
I got signed up by accident after not cancelling my free trial. But its worked out for the best I use the free post all the time and watch more programs on prime than the bbc, catching up on vikings and black sails at the moment.

I'm not fussed about the £80 for prime, what grips my sh*t is the bbc tv tax, the idea is ok but the way they blow their free money makes me sick, and I'm not on about big bucks for Evans and the like (if you pay peanuts you get monkeys, see 5th gear). only half of the £4b goes on programs god knows where the rest goes, £12m on taxi's £1.5 on first class flights £X mill on some duff art to hang in the tv centre
Why pay it? It's completely voluntary. It's only needed if you want to watch any broadcast channel live.

I must admit I have never understood why the people who feel so strongly about paying the TV License these days then go and pay it in this modern age when it is totally surplus to requirements and optional.

By the way, for a business that size £12m on taxis seems far too low. As does £1.5 on 1st class flights.

But one of the key upsides of top gear moving to ppv and away from the bbc is to hopefully see less of the screaming bbcist frothing. biggrin

never ready

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132 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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DonkeyApple said:
Why pay it? It's completely voluntary. It's only needed if you want to watch any broadcast channel live.

I must admit I have never understood why the people who feel so strongly about paying the TV License these days then go and pay it in this modern age when it is totally surplus to requirements and optional.

By the way, for a business that size £12m on taxis seems far too low. As does £1.5 on 1st class flights.

But one of the key upsides of top gear moving to ppv and away from the bbc is to hopefully see less of the screaming bbcist frothing. biggrin
it's not voluntary, you have to pay to watch anything other than dvd's

From TV licence
"You need to be covered by a TV Licence if you watch or record programmes as they're being shown on TV or live on an online TV service. This is the case whether you use a TV, computer, tablet, mobile phone, games console, digital box, DVD/VHS recorder or any other device."

DonkeyApple

55,251 posts

169 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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never ready said:
DonkeyApple said:
Why pay it? It's completely voluntary. It's only needed if you want to watch any broadcast channel live.

I must admit I have never understood why the people who feel so strongly about paying the TV License these days then go and pay it in this modern age when it is totally surplus to requirements and optional.

By the way, for a business that size £12m on taxis seems far too low. As does £1.5 on 1st class flights.

But one of the key upsides of top gear moving to ppv and away from the bbc is to hopefully see less of the screaming bbcist frothing. biggrin
it's not voluntary, you have to pay to watch anything other than dvd's

From TV licence
"You need to be covered by a TV Licence if you watch or record programmes as they're being shown on TV or live on an online TV service. This is the case whether you use a TV, computer, tablet, mobile phone, games console, digital box, DVD/VHS recorder or any other device."
Re read that. It confirms exactly what I was saying. In Britain today absolutely no one needs a TV license and it is completely voluntary. There is absolutely no need to watch any tv as it is broadcast any longer. It is a personal choice to do so. So don't whing about paying for it. biggrin

gregf40

1,114 posts

116 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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never ready said:
it's not voluntary, you have to pay to watch anything other than dvd's

From TV licence
"You need to be covered by a TV Licence if you watch or record programmes as they're being shown on TV or live on an online TV service. This is the case whether you use a TV, computer, tablet, mobile phone, games console, digital box, DVD/VHS recorder or any other device."
No you don't.

You can watch any catch up service without a TV license. It's just live broadcasts you can't watch.

DonkeyApple

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169 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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gregf40 said:
No you don't.

You can watch any catch up service without a TV license. It's just live broadcasts you can't watch.
And seeing as most broadcasters have a catchup service and then combine products such as Netflix or Prime and you can suddenly appreciate why there is a rush to change the structure of the TV license to a media license as more and more households no longer need a traditional TV license.

It is a cost for those who wish to watch live broadcast TV of any means or a tax on angry people who can't comprehend relatively simple English. biggrin. Either way, it's a non issue.

Vipers

32,879 posts

228 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Once upon a time Top Gear was interesting to watch, waste of space now, three kids with big toys.

Me thinks Amazon is going to regret hiring these big kids.




smile

CaptainSlow

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212 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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DonkeyApple said:
Re read that. It confirms exactly what I was saying. In Britain today absolutely no one needs a TV license and it is completely voluntary. There is absolutely no need to watch any tv as it is broadcast any longer. It is a personal choice to do so. So don't whing about paying for it. biggrin
Yeah, I always prefer watching ITV news the day after, especially the weather.

OzzyR1

5,721 posts

232 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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An extract from Clarkson's column in The Sun today reads:

And then we will be off. To make what will be a seriously well-funded, British based show with no commercial breaks and, better still, no editorial pressure from on high. Amazon has been delightfully clear on that "Just make the show you wanna make guys". Music to my ears.


Will be interesting to see what the four of them come up with.

gregf40

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116 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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CaptainSlow said:
Yeah, I always prefer watching ITV news the day after, especially the weather.
Oh the irony. You joke about watching news late yet are happy to have it shown to you at a set point in time as opposed to when the events actually happened.

It's 2015 not 1995 - why not just go on BBC news at a time that suits you? They have the weather too believe it or not.

DonkeyApple

55,251 posts

169 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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CaptainSlow said:
DonkeyApple said:
Re read that. It confirms exactly what I was saying. In Britain today absolutely no one needs a TV license and it is completely voluntary. There is absolutely no need to watch any tv as it is broadcast any longer. It is a personal choice to do so. So don't whing about paying for it. biggrin
Yeah, I always prefer watching ITV news the day after, especially the weather.
Then pay for it. Or read a paper online or check the weather online.

Like I said, the TV license is paid by two types of people. People who actually want to pay it for what it gives them and idiots.

DonkeyApple

55,251 posts

169 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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OzzyR1 said:
An extract from Clarkson's column in The Sun today reads:

And then we will be off. To make what will be a seriously well-funded, British based show with no commercial breaks and, better still, no editorial pressure from on high. Amazon has been delightfully clear on that "Just make the show you wanna make guys". Music to my ears.


Will be interesting to see what the four of them come up with.
Until he says something about Mexicans and one third of America start bhing at Amazon and boycotting.

I think we can be very assured that behind that arty farty, liberal freedom verbage there are extremely clear guidelines and restrictions and covenants behind a 250m deal.

And anyone taking on this type of product will soon learn just how much hard work it is judging what is pushing boundaries and good for marketing and what is over the line and damages business.

Fl0pp3r

859 posts

203 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Like it or not, Clarkson is a draw so I'm sure they'll do well out of this.