Amazon prime sign 'top gear' trio

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ukaskew

10,642 posts

221 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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alock said:
I'm surprised how many people seem to have Prime just for next day delivery. What sort of things are people buying lots of (to justify £80) where it's important to have it next day but not important enough to have it today and therefore buy it locally?
Buying things locally? Given the traffic issues, parking costs etc it's a pain in the butt to buy pretty much anything but supermarket stuff locally any more. In my local town there is simply nowhere to buy many things I might buy on Amazon, even fairly populist stuff like non new-release Blu Rays.

For me personally I can order something (usually much cheaper than if I can find it on the high street) and have it delivered to a locker about 30 paces from my desk at work by 10am the next morning.

Having unlimited photo backup (which I was paying for before anyway) and access to a load of movies, TVs and books for my Kindle at no extra cost is just the icing on the cake.

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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I get the feeling this the same as BT buying MotoGP

It had loads of people watching it on Eurosport now they have less people?

This is yet another arrow in the bow of someone trying to be the next Sky

Feck knows how it will turn out.

I guess I will have to man my illegal stream

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toohuge

3,434 posts

216 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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As someone mentioned earlier, this is about the global audience ....

Top Gear is massive around the world - one of the biggest markets in the US, previously everyone has been using torrents / vpn services to stream Top Gear over iPlayer - and with the lack of an episode library on iPlayer it has been frustrating trying to watch some older episodes.

This opens up an enormous market as well as offering a better platform to watch older episodes etc. Amazon Prime is huge in the US and I am sure the viewing numbers will increase.

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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ukaskew said:
alock said:
I'm surprised how many people seem to have Prime just for next day delivery. What sort of things are people buying lots of (to justify £80) where it's important to have it next day but not important enough to have it today and therefore buy it locally?
Buying things locally? Given the traffic issues, parking costs etc it's a pain in the butt to buy pretty much anything but supermarket stuff locally any more. In my local town there is simply nowhere to buy many things I might buy on Amazon, even fairly populist stuff like non new-release Blu Rays.

For me personally I can order something (usually much cheaper than if I can find it on the high street) and have it delivered to a locker about 30 paces from my desk at work by 10am the next morning.

Having unlimited photo backup (which I was paying for before anyway) and access to a load of movies, TVs and books for my Kindle at no extra cost is just the icing on the cake.
I think you are supposed to be talking about the advantages of the programming that Amazon have built up, not brown boxes.

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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toohuge said:
As someone mentioned earlier, this is about the global audience ....

Top Gear is massive around the world - one of the biggest markets in the US, previously everyone has been using torrents / vpn services to stream Top Gear over iPlayer - and with the lack of an episode library on iPlayer it has been frustrating trying to watch some older episodes.

This opens up an enormous market as well as offering a better platform to watch older episodes etc. Amazon Prime is huge in the US and I am sure the viewing numbers will increase.
Why not Youtube then?

QuattroDave

1,466 posts

128 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Bit of a left field thought but I wonder whether the BBC contracts were tight enough to prevent the online only programme being called 'Top Gear'! I'm sure it states that they can't use the name top gear for a tv show with it being online it's not technically a tv show!

Also, if the service is streamed from a country where Top Gear isn't trademarked by the BBC then it can use the name. That would really put the cat amongst the pigeons!

Online Top Gear vs Terrestrial Top Gear!

Still like the title 'House of Cars' but again that's unlikely as it's a take on the netflix series house of cards.

Blue Cat

976 posts

186 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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toohuge said:
As someone mentioned earlier, this is about the global audience ....

Top Gear is massive around the world - one of the biggest markets in the US, previously everyone has been using torrents / vpn services to stream Top Gear over iPlayer - and with the lack of an episode library on iPlayer it has been frustrating trying to watch some older episodes.

This opens up an enormous market as well as offering a better platform to watch older episodes etc. Amazon Prime is huge in the US and I am sure the viewing numbers will increase.
Sorry don't understand your comment - "a better platform to watch older episodes" don't these still belong to the BBC. Amazon will only be able to show new episodes unless they reach an agreement with the BBC.

Collectingbrass

2,210 posts

195 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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NordicCrankShaft said:
Don't you still have to pay for the good content on Prime though?
Not if you stream it (like with Netflix and Iplayer), but you can pay to download it and "own" some of the "prime" rated product I think.

I was a bit surprised that CMHW had gone to Amazon, not Netflix. It will be interesting to see whether American mores affect the new new Top Gear show these guys create, and also whether Amazon have got the rights to any show they want to make individually, like JC's WW2 documentaries.

GetCarter

29,377 posts

279 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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As mentioned on another thread, Prime pays for itself for me for the free deliveries (mostly next day - even to the Highlands) - all the TV, movies, music and cloud are just free extras. It's a no brainer if you buy stuff from them.

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Collectingbrass said:
NordicCrankShaft said:
Don't you still have to pay for the good content on Prime though?
Not if you stream it (like with Netflix and Iplayer), but you can pay to download it and "own" some of the "prime" rated product I think.

I was a bit surprised that CMHW had gone to Amazon, not Netflix. It will be interesting to see whether American mores affect the new new Top Gear show these guys create, and also whether Amazon have got the rights to any show they want to make individually, like JC's WW2 documentaries.
What happens if the Evans Top Gear is really good as well and they start shipping that out?

Some people don't like Evans but at least he's up to the same standard as Clarkson car wise, if not more.

It will be interesting if he can do a job that people think keep watching and can take over the money making machine. This is a more interesting thing than what Clarkson does in my opinion.


NelsonP

240 posts

139 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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redlinecal said:
I'd just like to make a point regarding the whole internet TV debate.

I'm 22...majority of my friends are the same age. Probably 95% of us never watch live TV anymore. We all have Prime and Netflix (equates to like 3/4 pints a moonth price wise) and other catch up apps on devices such as xbox/playstation/apple tv/iphone/ipad, which in this modern age can all be streamed seamlessly to a TV.

Times are and have changed regarding viewing habits for people, and you could argue this is a brilliant move in the long term.

Prime Video is being heavily invested in right now, and already has some great original content included.

But yes, living in a city in the north of Scotland with 70mbps internet helps.
....but I thought you twentysomethings were all too busy on Facebook, dating apps and Snapchat to actually watch TV anymore ;-)

Nice to see that the price of everything is still measured in pints though. At least that hasn't changed!

You live and learn ;-)

WokkaWokka

699 posts

139 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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kapiteinlangzaam said:
Torrents, here I come smile

£80 to watch Jeremy and pals is not going to happen.
I second that. I am not going to pay Amazon a penny the robbing bds, I'm talking strictly from a commercial stand point here.

otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Gandahar said:
Some people don't like Evans but at least he's up to the same standard as Clarkson car wise, if not more.
I must have missed his many years of regular motor journalism in print and on screen. I just had him down as a rich bloke with a car collection.

DonkeyApple

55,257 posts

169 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Collectingbrass said:
Not if you stream it (like with Netflix and Iplayer), but you can pay to download it and "own" some of the "prime" rated product I think.

I was a bit surprised that CMHW had gone to Amazon, not Netflix. It will be interesting to see whether American mores affect the new new Top Gear show these guys create, and also whether Amazon have got the rights to any show they want to make individually, like JC's WW2 documentaries.
Do Netflix have a shopping centre where you can buy program merchandising? wink

I wonder if this additional revenue stream combined with the basic competition angle of wanting a global program with a ready audience more than wanting a rival to get it is what allowed them to deliver the most competitive bid?

I imagine that the merchandising aspect could be worth quite a bit?

Some Gump

12,689 posts

186 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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How much ste do you lot buy at the last minute from Amazon?

Amazon deliveries are already free. They just take 2 days. Is 80 quid a year really worth it for 1 day? It's not like you're ordering water in a desert..

Anyways, I'll not be partaking. Streaming iPlayer etc is already hassle compared to sky+, never mind a 115 quid bill for something that was only quite good when it was free..

otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Some Gump said:
Amazon deliveries are already free.
If the goods are over £20 or £10 for books, and you are happy with delivery 3-5 business days after dispatch.

GetCarter

29,377 posts

279 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Some Gump said:
How much ste do you lot buy at the last minute from Amazon?

Amazon deliveries are already free. They just take 2 days. Is 80 quid a year really worth it for 1 day? It's not like you're ordering water in a desert..

Anyways, I'll not be partaking. Streaming iPlayer etc is already hassle compared to sky+, never mind a 115 quid bill for something that was only quite good when it was free..
A lot of the stuff on Amazon is not free delivery. (I live in the NW Highlands so have no shops), and Prime saves me money. As I say, a no brainer if you use Amazon a lot. (And BTW, yes, I wish they paid their fking tax!)

Some Gump

12,689 posts

186 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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otolith said:
If the goods are over £20 or £10 for books, and you are happy with delivery 3-5 business days after dispatch.
I use Amazon for ste that is expensive in supermarkets. Batteries, lightbulbs, that sort of thing. Most are less than a fiver, and delivery is free. Even if delivery is 3-5 days, so be it.
I'm just at a loss as to how many people really like the next day thing. I can't think of anything that Amazon sell that would be an urgent purchase, repeatedly throughout the year...

Bradgate

2,823 posts

147 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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I watched every single episode of Clarkson / May / Hammond era TG, even the India special, so I would very much want to watch their new project.

Unfortunately because I already subscribe to Sky, there is no way I could possibly justify another subscription to Amazon.

With regret, I'm out.

130R

6,810 posts

206 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Some Gump said:
I use Amazon for ste that is expensive in supermarkets. Batteries, lightbulbs, that sort of thing. Most are less than a fiver, and delivery is free. Even if delivery is 3-5 days, so be it.
I'm just at a loss as to how many people really like the next day thing. I can't think of anything that Amazon sell that would be an urgent purchase, repeatedly throughout the year...
That's fine if there is someone home in that 3-5 day window to accept delivery, not much good if you are only home on certain days.