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Adam B said:
not picking on you in particular but lots of people make comments like this - why?
I think it was a waste of money at £840k. I would expect something at that build cost to be far more impressive than it was. I thought it was very dark and gloomy downstairs especially considering the size of the sliding doors they had.That was the reason for my comment.
Zoon said:
I think it was a waste of money at £840k. I would expect something at that build cost to be far more impressive than it was.
Do you have expert knowledge of costs of materials and labour in Sussex? He is an architect so I am pretty sure he knows the cost of such things.Knocking off the value of the old house (say £500k) he spent about £1M on land and build - this buys something like this in Horsham
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...
Makes his build look bloody good value IMHO
You can argue that you don't like aspects of the build (like your comment on being dark - although I thought the opposite) or design that is not to your taste, but your "waste of money" comment is pretty baseless unless you have experience of building similar in that area (ie not in the Midlands)
Edited by Adam B on Thursday 29th September 17:03
...and I don't think the objective was to "impress" - I'm sure he's well capable of that.
Instead, he created a family home for he and his family, which they clearly loved, to suit nobody but themselves.
I came away thinking that there was an architect that I could see myself working with (were I considerably wealthier than I am, sadly!)
Instead, he created a family home for he and his family, which they clearly loved, to suit nobody but themselves.
I came away thinking that there was an architect that I could see myself working with (were I considerably wealthier than I am, sadly!)
GnuBee said:
Polarised opinions again - which is a good thing; love it, hate it - buildings/interiors should do that, strive to provoke more than a meh or a "it's ok". I'm not sure I get the PH hate for architects but in this case it seems even more odd...
Why are polarised opinions good? Surely it is most successful when most like it?It is of course the clients feelings that are most important and in this case the client and architect are the same.
They seemed to like it but I doubt anyone would go on screen saying that their creation is a bit s
t. Considering their profession, I can't help but feel underwhelmed. The finished structure had little of architectural merit and didn't work well as a family space.
Some details were bloody awful. What was the circular skylight about? The corridor that needed a light tunnel?
It was no Grand Design, just a big building at best with a lot of awkward detail which was then furnished unsympathetically.
None of this matters though as they liked it.
Pesty said:
I liked it. Only one thing annoyed me why go to the trouble of making secret passages then put handed on the 'doors'
Push latches wouldn't have been much trouble.
I thought that too, not very hidden at all. Push latches wouldn't have been much trouble.
KTF said:
I see they forgot to join it to the old house and also forgot to refurbish the old house.
Funny that.
You could see a big piece of black plastic sheeting over where the join was going to be. The refurb was a problem because she'd spent half the refurb budget on something in the new house, though I forget what - the room in the roof perhaps.Funny that.
droopsnoot said:
You could see a big piece of black plastic sheeting over where the join was going to be. The refurb was a problem because she'd spent half the refurb budget on something in the new house, though I forget what - the room in the roof perhaps.
The Pod, I think they called it.Adam B said:
Zoon said:
I think it was a waste of money at £840k. I would expect something at that build cost to be far more impressive than it was.
Do you have expert knowledge of costs of materials and labour in Sussex? He is an architect so I am pretty sure he knows the cost of such things.Knocking off the value of the old house (say £500k) he spent about £1M on land and build - this buys something like this in Horsham
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...
Makes his build look bloody good value IMHO
You can argue that you don't like aspects of the build (like your comment on being dark - although I thought the opposite) or design that is not to your taste, but your "waste of money" comment is pretty baseless unless you have experience of building similar in that area (ie not in the Midlands)
Edited by Adam B on Thursday 29th September 17:03
The only variable that applies to that "area" is the cost of land. Plus possibly a small uplift on labour.
Your example of the house that is already built includes the developers profit, so not really a like for like comparison cost wise.
I can say the whole thing was s
t as it is my opinion, same as you are saying my opinion is baseless (it's not)Zoon said:
Materials cost the same regardless of being in Sussex.
The only variable that applies to that "area" is the cost of land. Plus possibly a small uplift on labour.
Your example of the house that is already built includes the developers profit, so not really a like for like comparison cost wise.
I can say the whole thing was st as it is my opinion, same as you are saying my opinion is baseless (it's not)
Maybe I am taking your "waste of money" too literally, you can say you think its sThe only variable that applies to that "area" is the cost of land. Plus possibly a small uplift on labour.
Your example of the house that is already built includes the developers profit, so not really a like for like comparison cost wise.
I can say the whole thing was s
t as it is my opinion, same as you are saying my opinion is baseless (it's not)t but judging value for money is almost impossible to the casual viewer.And as someone currently renovating in London you either pay more for materials or pay extra for transport, and labour differences are more than a "small uplift"
MiniMan64 said:
I quite enjoyed watching someone build exactly what the want for the budget they have in exactly the way they want.
Too often Grand Designs is more about the scrimping unfinished fannying around than the actual house
agreed - certainly not all to my taste but you can see the whole family loved the end result, and when the kids are grown up they can alter the design / room layout to matchToo often Grand Designs is more about the scrimping unfinished fannying around than the actual house
Adam B said:
Maybe I am taking your "waste of money" too literally, you can say you think its st but judging value for money is almost impossible to the casual viewer.
And as someone currently renovating in London you either pay more for materials or pay extra for transport, and labour differences are more than a "small uplift"
I can get materials delivered anywhere in the UK at the same price.t but judging value for money is almost impossible to the casual viewer.And as someone currently renovating in London you either pay more for materials or pay extra for transport, and labour differences are more than a "small uplift"
I suspect you don't have a national account with agreed terms if you are paying over the odds?
Pistom said:
No it doesn't matter but I like to read about why someone likes or dislikes something.
The issue with things like houses is that 'dislike' can be for numerous reasons, some that you may not even be aware of as they are so ingrained and personal.Style and materials are just two of those!
TBH the kids seemed to love their rooms etc the wife loved what she had and dad seems to like it too so in that regard it was a great success. I liked the concepts, but I'm not sure that the reality of them worked that well.
Despite the lovely brickwork it did look 'industrial estate' to me... I didn't like the moving bath... I'd have put the bed in a position to enjoy that view... the fireplace made me laugh (ideal for filming 'those parties'?
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Despite the lovely brickwork it did look 'industrial estate' to me... I didn't like the moving bath... I'd have put the bed in a position to enjoy that view... the fireplace made me laugh (ideal for filming 'those parties'?
)I quite liked the exterior but the interior just seemed a really messy layout to me. That hiding place behind the fireplace was just silly. How many times would that actually be funny? The pod thing in the loft with the window that gave you almost no view was also a little strange.
Really odd they did not just buy an empty plot to build on though. If I remember right they said they paid £750,000 for the old house and it's plot which seems a hell of a lot considering they had no real interest in the existing house.
Really odd they did not just buy an empty plot to build on though. If I remember right they said they paid £750,000 for the old house and it's plot which seems a hell of a lot considering they had no real interest in the existing house.
dvb70 said:
The pod thing in the loft with the window that gave you almost no view was also a little strange.
Not so bad for looking at stars and so on - there was a telescope in there at the end. okgo said:
I liked it. Though spent my whole evening thinking about how their office works when it's above Burger King!!
Yes, a mate has a workshop in what's become takeaway central in a local town, any time I'm there on Saturday late morning it's quite difficult to concentrate on anything other than the range of aromas. I wonder how they'd get into the office if Burger King closed down as the door seemed to be from the sales area. I guess there's another entrance that doesn't look so quirky on camera.Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff