The Hunted

[Rude-boy]

I did not get to watch the programme but heard a bit of the build up to it.

Sounds exactly what I expected it would be like. Must say it’s got me thinking about digging out Rouge Male which I have not read in over 25 years.

Did make me think about where I would go/what I would do. I know that there would be a number of false trails, especially ones that would take little time for me to set up but a while for them to find out as false – the more you tie up their resources the better your chances are.

[Brigand]

It didn't take long for me to become annoyed with what was happening on the show, and I ended the episode feeling that it was heavily scripted. I feel like rather than it being a show about seeing how long these fugitives can flee for, its more about showing you (the viewer) just how much mass surveillance there is out there, and showing you the processes of how the authorities would use them.

Clearly if it was some kind of game show where escaping for twenty-eight days was the mission, then you wouldn't have your friends or family members co-operating with the "investigators", they'd just be barring them access to their homes or ignoring them. These "ground teams" appear to be simulating police and other members of the security agencies, so the families etc are complying with them as they would the law.

I was annoyed within moments of the show starting though, seeing people flapping to get things packed, they should have had stuff ready to go. Then you had the woman who just had to call her mum, then her ex to speak to her son. Again, if it was a game show to be won then I'd expect her to be able to, no matter how much she missed the tyke, keep quiet and just go those twenty-eight days without contact. I suspect she was instructed to do that to show what pressures people on the run suffer and succumb to.

I doubt I will be watching any further episodes though, it appears far too staged for my liking.

[andy_s]

Mmm, not really 'Day of the Jackal' is it?

[egor110]

If you had a old nuclear bunker and just locked yourself in there, would that still count?

The hunters would know where you are but couldn't actually get to you.

[WilsonWilson]

It was a bit hammy, so not sure why they didn't go the whole hog and bring this guy back:



I vaguely remember watching one episode on holiday with my grandparents thinking it was brilliant but never seeing it again.

[Pistom]

egor110 said:

Or just drop tech totally, no phone = no sim card , no tablet/pc, no using atm's makes things much harder for the hunters.

Are they allowed to go abroad or are there passports taken?

No leaving the country allowed. I mentioned the throw away phones as some like the crazy blonde needed the contact with her sprog.

Someone else has said that the purpose of the show was to show how heavily monitored the UK is.

[Rude-boy]

Pistom said:

Someone else has said that the purpose of the show was to show how heavily monitored the UK is.

I listened to a R4 segment on the show and that is pretty much the aim of the show, not the evasion part of it. It is also to show how easy it is to slip up and 'show' yourself.

Someone mentioned Bunker. I know a chap who ownes an old RFC bunker and that would be one of my false trails, or possibly where i might go, who knows. Anyway good call on that.

[dirty boy]

deleted in case I'm ever on the show.

[egor110]

Rude-boy said:

Pistom said:

Someone else has said that the purpose of the show was to show how heavily monitored the UK is.

I listened to a R4 segment on the show and that is pretty much the aim of the show, not the evasion part of it. It is also to show how easy it is to slip up and 'show' yourself.

Someone mentioned Bunker. I know a chap who ownes an old RFC bunker and that would be one of my false trails, or possibly where i might go, who knows. Anyway good call on that.

That would be my actual trail, they can get to me but can't get in so id just hunker down for the 28 days.

Or id sail around the coast.

[surveyor]

dirty boy said:

deleted in case I'm ever on the show.

They'll just undelete it...

[Pistom]

surveyor said:

dirty boy said:

deleted in case I'm ever on the show.

They'll just undelete it...

Failed already.

[Le Pop]

I think you lot are too cynical. It must be incredibly difficult to not get tracked by the state, given their access to your online 'fingerprint'. In fact they have even more access than they've showed us (yet). Even if you don't voluntarily use a phone or the interweb you are still on cctv and ANPR, and finally good old suspicion by locals if you are in a remote area.

I'm enjoying it...

[RemyMartin]

WilsonWilson said:

It was a bit hammy, so not sure why they didn't go the whole hog and bring this guy back:



I vaguely remember watching one episode on holiday with my grandparents thinking it was brilliant but never seeing it again.

Interceptor was awesome!

Its repeated from time to time on Quest.

Look out for the old Maserati biturbo and Kawasaki zx10. Oh and a cool chopper.

[Adam B]

Le Pop said:

I think you lot are too cynical. It must be incredibly difficult to not get tracked by the state, given their access to your online 'fingerprint'. In fact they have even more access than they've showed us (yet). Even if you don't voluntarily use a phone or the interweb you are still on cctv and ANPR, and finally good old suspicion by locals if you are in a remote area.

Is it really though? They are throwing a handful of people at it, not MI6 and contestants only have to hide out for a few weeks so emotional ties can be coped with

ANPR - don't travel by car or on motorways/A roads
Get a friend to drive your car in a random direction
Head on bike to a location you have no prior connection with (don't bloody google it beforehand)
Take a load of cash out immediately from an ATM before you start
Pack a bag and be ready for TV company to call

[Le Pop]

Adam B said:

Is it really though? They are throwing a handful of people at it, not MI6 and contestants only have to hide out for a few weeks so emotional ties can be coped with

ANPR - don't travel by car or on motorways/A roads
Get a friend to drive your car in a random direction
Head on bike to a location you have no prior connection with (don't bloody google it beforehand)
Take a load of cash out immediately from an ATM before you start
Pack a bag and be ready for TV company to call

If you can avoid buying anything I.e. Skin rabbits and live in a tent in the Cairngorms or something a la Bear Grylls then maybe, but as soon as you interact with strangers/locals or touch the web, or are seen on cctv then it's only a matter of time I'd say. I think they'll reveal more surveillance techniques as the series goes along. They can read your newspaper from a satellite ffs! Plus there's infrared. It's more difficult going unnoticed than you think imho... especially if you have some intelligence on the target already.

[Adam B]

I am talking about this TV programme not a real security services hunt.

No I would go to a tourist area with plenty of people, and where lots of people come and go. Take £1000 cash, hire a cottage for a couple of walks bs pretend to on a walking break, shop locally with cash. It is not a public search so people don't know to look for your face. Also most CCTV is private so they have to locate your specific area to then find pictures of you in shop/ bank/ business CCTV

How much CCTV can the police tap into electronically? Not much bar major roads, airports and stations and govt buildings I suspect.

The annoying thing about this programme, apart from all the people, the editing and the fake tension, is they don't explain the rules of play

Edited by Adam B on Tuesday 15th September 08:39

[KingNothing]

Adam B said:

they don't explain the rules of play

Edited by Adam B on Tuesday 15th September 08:39

This, without knowing the actual terms we can only guess what you're allowed to do. Think the only thing explained was that they had £450 each to use.

For example if I was selected for the show I don't think they'd appreciate me purging my old hard drives and either taking them with me or stashing them somewhere where they'd never find, and replacing them with new ones which I encrypted to the hilt while creating a new notepad document saying "hahahahaha, good luck catching me" underneath all the encryption, same goes for shredding and burning all documents I think could give them a helping hand beforehand.

[Sonic]

KingNothing said:

Adam B said:

they don't explain the rules of play

Edited by Adam B on Tuesday 15th September 08:39

This, without knowing the actual terms we can only guess what you're allowed to do. Think the only thing explained was that they had £450 each to use.

For example if I was selected for the show I don't think they'd appreciate me purging my old hard drives and either taking them with me or stashing them somewhere where they'd never find, and replacing them with new ones which I encrypted to the hilt while creating a new notepad document saying "hahahahaha, good luck catching me" underneath all the encryption, same goes for shredding and burning all documents I think could give them a helping hand beforehand.

I thought this was all covered at the beginning of the program - they each have a card with £450 on it to last them and that's it. They received a phone call at the same time the chasers were informed about them, giving them approx 1 hour to get their stuff together and make a run for it. Hardly enough time to start purging hard-drives, although sure you could have prepared something before-hand but that seems to go against the spirit of suddenly being in the situation where you have to run.

I'm not sure i'd fancy burning all my personal documents just for a game-show either

[KingNothing]

Sonic said:

I thought this was all covered at the beginning of the program - they each have a card with £450 on it to last them and that's it. They received a phone call at the same time the chasers were informed about them, giving them approx 1 hour to get their stuff together and make a run for it. Hardly enough time to start purging hard-drives, although sure you could have prepared something before-hand but that seems to go against the spirit of suddenly being in the situation where you have to run.

I'm not sure i'd fancy burning all my personal documents just for a game-show either

Doubt many people could afford to drop their working lives for 28 days, I'm sure their bosses wouldn't appreciate it, so they've obviously had longer than an hour to plan for it, the running round like a headless chicken trying to pack maps, and the woman packing her wig in a flurry was obviously put on, so they must have been told not to plan for it in certain ways, unless they were so dim that they applied for and were accepted for a chase type show and chose not to create a grab bag.

[raceboy]

Sonic said:

I'm not sure i'd fancy burning all my personal documents just for a game-show either

And thats why it's just not realistic enough, Iit should have given the 'contestants' the option to 'pretend' to do various things like destroy all computers, and other things like fit false plates to their cars, it appears that the runners aren't allowed to break the law but if you are running from 'the law' thats going to be the least of your worries.