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MiniMan64 said:
I'm intrguied as to how far people reckon this is staged? Especially in relation to the Doctors capture?
same here !must be tricky when chasers are close to a capture and to get any filming crew out of sight so as not to give the game away
one of the detectives was on Saturday Live this morning talking about some of it (havn't listened to it yet!)
Only just watched the latest episode. It seems to be getting more and more staged. One give away was when Emily and Lauren split up, there was 1 cameraman for the pair, now there's 1 each. Surely it would be pointless having 2 cameramen right from the start just incase they did split up.
I think Allen gave up, or it adds to the staged theory. He was incredibly determined in hiding his tracks and creating false trails for 2 weeks but then heads to a place he knows will be full of cameras and stands around right in front of one at Glasgow station. I suppose he didn't know they would have tabs on his mates Astra, but he went to great lengths in the highlands, he would know better than to throw it away. He saw the 'wanted' poster in the newspaper, why would he go to a populated area where potentially lots of people will read the newspaper. He also knew how thorough the hunters were, as his mate tells him about the fake text. Also, he has driven potentially over a thousand miles in the Peugeot, but suddenly gets a lift to Glasgow, he doesn't know they have the CCTV of the ATM, why switch now? Especially into a car that was also at an ATM!
I think Allen gave up, or it adds to the staged theory. He was incredibly determined in hiding his tracks and creating false trails for 2 weeks but then heads to a place he knows will be full of cameras and stands around right in front of one at Glasgow station. I suppose he didn't know they would have tabs on his mates Astra, but he went to great lengths in the highlands, he would know better than to throw it away. He saw the 'wanted' poster in the newspaper, why would he go to a populated area where potentially lots of people will read the newspaper. He also knew how thorough the hunters were, as his mate tells him about the fake text. Also, he has driven potentially over a thousand miles in the Peugeot, but suddenly gets a lift to Glasgow, he doesn't know they have the CCTV of the ATM, why switch now? Especially into a car that was also at an ATM!
Of course its staged, no one can hide from the state. Thats the whole point of this, it's a political piece about big brother, with some people thrown in so it doesn't look so preachy.
I'll be honestly surprised if they let anyone win. The two asian lads were completely off the radar in a safehouse for example, they could have sat there and won. They instead "chose" to hide in a friends shop.
I'll be honestly surprised if they let anyone win. The two asian lads were completely off the radar in a safehouse for example, they could have sat there and won. They instead "chose" to hide in a friends shop.
Edited by Lazadude on Tuesday 29th September 16:22
Only one left watching ?
Anyhoo.....The hunters nearly boobed yesterday by overtaking a target coach,coach stops,they're now miles in front of it.
They go back but almost miss it but tthey catch it in Birmingham and "the only gay in the village" gets caught.
The kid was also a prepper as is his father.....
Still very little on mad Emily and Lauren...
Anyhoo.....The hunters nearly boobed yesterday by overtaking a target coach,coach stops,they're now miles in front of it.
They go back but almost miss it but tthey catch it in Birmingham and "the only gay in the village" gets caught.
The kid was also a prepper as is his father.....
Still very little on mad Emily and Lauren...
By the sounds of it it's obviously nonesense. There'll be an element of only picking idiots for the show and then telling them what to do. But they'll also have cut out anyone that does a half decent job of it as they'd be crap TV.
Most things can be traced, but how are you going to trace a Skype call if you don't know I'm using Skype in the first place? The authorities can't just check every piece of data because there's far too much of it. How do you know which CCTV to look at and when?
If you gave me an hour to disappear for 28 days, I'd jump on my bike and set off with a pocket full of cash and a bivi bag. You'd have a tiny chance of catching me on day 1, but after that I could be anywhere and nothing in my internet search history is going to help.
So long as they don't check my Strava account though…..
Most things can be traced, but how are you going to trace a Skype call if you don't know I'm using Skype in the first place? The authorities can't just check every piece of data because there's far too much of it. How do you know which CCTV to look at and when?
If you gave me an hour to disappear for 28 days, I'd jump on my bike and set off with a pocket full of cash and a bivi bag. You'd have a tiny chance of catching me on day 1, but after that I could be anywhere and nothing in my internet search history is going to help.
So long as they don't check my Strava account though…..
paulrockliffe said:
Most things can be traced, but how are you going to trace a Skype call if you don't know I'm using Skype in the first place? The authorities can't just check every piece of data because there's far too much of it. How do you know which CCTV to look at and when?
I recall a message at the start that says something about replicating "powers of the state" such as CCTV and ANPR for authenticity - because they can't obviously be watching live feeds just for the sake of a TV show.In terms of watching data, it depends who's after you really
This is an interesting read - https://theintercept.com/2015/09/25/gchq-radio-por...paulrockliffe said:
If you gave me an hour to disappear for 28 days, I'd jump on my bike and set off with a pocket full of cash and a bivi bag. You'd have a tiny chance of catching me on day 1, but after that I could be anywhere and nothing in my internet search history is going to help.
That's pretty much what those guys on the bikes did, but have seemingly made the fatal assumption of assuming the hunters would have no way to find out about their paulrockliffe said:
By the sounds of it it's obviously nonesense. There'll be an element of only picking idiots for the show and then telling them what to do. But they'll also have cut out anyone that does a half decent job of it as they'd be crap TV.
Emily and Lauren got themselves into a holiday camp, was fantastic setup, would never have been found, but then one of them goes & uses the phone 
my suspicion is that the production team told them it wouldn't make good TV and they had to move on, hence the phone-call (?)
still looking forward to next week ...
Sonic said:
paulrockliffe said:
Most things can be traced, but how are you going to trace a Skype call if you don't know I'm using Skype in the first place? The authorities can't just check every piece of data because there's far too much of it. How do you know which CCTV to look at and when?
I recall a message at the start that says something about replicating "powers of the state" such as CCTV and ANPR for authenticity - because they can't obviously be watching live feeds just for the sake of a TV show.In terms of watching data, it depends who's after you really
This is an interesting read - https://theintercept.com/2015/09/25/gchq-radio-por...paulrockliffe said:
If you gave me an hour to disappear for 28 days, I'd jump on my bike and set off with a pocket full of cash and a bivi bag. You'd have a tiny chance of catching me on day 1, but after that I could be anywhere and nothing in my internet search history is going to help.
That's pretty much what those guys on the bikes did, but have seemingly made the fatal assumption of assuming the hunters would have no way to find out about their That's your 1st destination.
Sounds as if I haven't made a mistake by not watching this. I was intending to, I have an idea it clashed with something. But then there was another similar program (less of a game show, more of a documentary) called "Erasing David", I watched that but it wasn't as good as I'd hoped it would be. Although it didn't help that he kept getting interviewed and publishing the interviews, giving his pursuers clues.
Article in the paper today suggests most people have the wrong ideas about how to go off-radar - talks about using a bike, sticking to quite highly-populated areas where another unfamiliar face isn't noticed.
Article in the paper today suggests most people have the wrong ideas about how to go off-radar - talks about using a bike, sticking to quite highly-populated areas where another unfamiliar face isn't noticed.
paulrockliffe said:
Most things can be traced, but how are you going to trace a Skype call if you don't know I'm using Skype in the first place? The authorities can't just check every piece of data because there's far too much of it. How do you know which CCTV to look at and when?
Or make it impossible to track even if they were watching the feed. TOR (Orbot if on Android) etc = Have fun chasing the IP around the globe. Lazadude said:
paulrockliffe said:
Most things can be traced, but how are you going to trace a Skype call if you don't know I'm using Skype in the first place? The authorities can't just check every piece of data because there's far too much of it. How do you know which CCTV to look at and when?
Or make it impossible to track even if they were watching the feed. TOR (Orbot if on Android) etc = Have fun chasing the IP around the globe. Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff