The Apprentice - 2015

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moanthebairns

17,939 posts

198 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Gary https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-poulton-b81bba59

aka the postman, because he always gets the sack

Tesco it turns out is the huge retailer.

Blaster72

10,838 posts

197 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Challo

10,142 posts

155 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Blaster72 said:
Looks like 'Dick Woods' is local to me.

Phil74

153 posts

152 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Challo said:
Looks like 'Dick Woods' is local to me.
He's in Windlesham.

I don't watch the program but know this due to 96.4 Eagle FM having him on every Thurdsay morning, at around 08:50, at the end of the Peter Gordon breakfast show.

Bluedot

3,588 posts

107 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Phil74 said:
I don't watch the program but know this due to 96.4 Eagle FM having him on every Thurdsay morning, at around 08:50, at the end of the Peter Gordon breakfast show.
Sounds like he's made it big then.


Phil74

153 posts

152 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Bluedot said:
Sounds like he's made it big then.
Haha, regional radio station so...

No.

To be fair though, without having seen his edited TV persona, he seems like a decent enough bloke when he's on the radio, albeit only for 2 minutes at a time.

Bluedot

3,588 posts

107 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Phil74 said:
To be fair though, without having seen his edited TV persona, he seems like a decent enough bloke when he's on the radio, albeit only for 2 minutes at a time.
Yeah agreed, I've mentioned before when you get most of these contestants away from the spotlight of The Apprentice they don't come across half as bad.
The programme is obviously heavily edited for maximum viewer pleasure, one of the classic things they do (straight out of the Top Gear style of filming) is to show the contestants asking questions or making comments but then showing a clip of the people they're talking to that was clearly shot at another time when they all have blank expressions on their faces. I probably haven't explained that very well but hopefully you know what I mean laugh


Countdown

39,885 posts

196 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Kitchski said:
Who the fk pays thousands of pounds for a party for a kid?!
Some of my colleagues have. I get the impression that mummies play the "playground one-upmanship" game.

Hoofy

76,358 posts

282 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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moanthebairns said:
The bald guy - we got the party started by standing on one leg. I mean are you that far up your own arse. I cringe every time he opens his mouth.

The torn faced navy lass - ok we are going to run from here to there.

party bus - put your left leg in...... jesus, put music and drink then leave them to entertain themselves.

heres how I could do it with a two £2k budget if I got the boys.

Falkirk fc 1/3 pitch - 1 hour hire £35
local karting place - races, heats and final with pizza £180
inflatable assault course - £155
sumo suits - £50
kids rodeo bull - £150
venue - £150
extra food - £100
party bags and little extras £100

Total £920
Could probably do it for less than that and cut a lot of that out as it was only 90 minutes as I understand it.

Venue hire max £100
Hire of any sports entertainments company for 10 or so kids £200
Professional catering and cake £250
Party bags £100

They must have been forced into doing certain things to make it entertaining for the viewers. 1 person in his pants in his bedroom could have organised the entire thing without showing up.

moanthebairns

17,939 posts

198 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Hoofy said:
moanthebairns said:
The bald guy - we got the party started by standing on one leg. I mean are you that far up your own arse. I cringe every time he opens his mouth.

The torn faced navy lass - ok we are going to run from here to there.

party bus - put your left leg in...... jesus, put music and drink then leave them to entertain themselves.

heres how I could do it with a two £2k budget if I got the boys.

Falkirk fc 1/3 pitch - 1 hour hire £35
local karting place - races, heats and final with pizza £180
inflatable assault course - £155
sumo suits - £50
kids rodeo bull - £150
venue - £150
extra food - £100
party bags and little extras £100

Total £920
Could probably do it for less than that and cut a lot of that out as it was only 90 minutes as I understand it.

Venue hire max £100
Hire of any sports entertainments company for 10 or so kids £200
Professional catering and cake £250
Party bags £100

They must have been forced into doing certain things to make it entertaining for the viewers. 1 person in his pants in his bedroom could have organised the entire thing without showing up.
So it's an utter farce.

Thanks for clearing it up. But I'm sort of left thinking what's the point watching it if it's so badly edited and scripted. Top gear I can stand. That's a show.

This is meant to be a contest.

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39,885 posts

196 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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moanthebairns said:
So it's an utter farce.

Thanks for clearing it up. But I'm sort of left thinking what's the point watching it if it's so badly edited and scripted. Top gear I can stand. That's a show.

This is meant to be a contest.
It hasn't been a genuine contest for a while, ever since they changed the prize to a £250k investment. So it's a complete and utter farce as you suggest.

The entertainment value is from watching people behave arrogantly and then fall flat on their face. You can normally guess who's for the chop in any particular episode because they'll be giving it Bertie Bigbks at the start of the show and then shown to be (via clever editing) a complete and utter numpty.

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39,885 posts

196 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Hoofy said:
They must have been forced into doing certain things to make it entertaining for the viewers. 1 person in his pants in his bedroom could have organised the entire thing without showing up.
This, every time.

Take David for example - he spent ages addressing H&S issues (don't run/climb/walk/breath). Had he not done so I guarantee that Karen would have made a massive deal about him "ignoring basic H&S" "putting the kids lives at risk" (cut to "Mum and dad looking panicky").

They aren't stupid. The programme makes them look stupid. (In a way I suppose the ARE stupid for agreeing to go on a programme which is going to make them look stupid). Most of them come across as normal, decent people on TAYF.

Hoofy

76,358 posts

282 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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moanthebairns said:
So it's an utter farce.

Thanks for clearing it up. But I'm sort of left thinking what's the point watching it if it's so badly edited and scripted. Top gear I can stand. That's a show.

This is meant to be a contest.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I think that is the nature of these programmes, though, these days. They probably take a lot of it out of context, too, which doesn't help. Classic was "Are you all having fun?" then camera cuts to bored children looking silently at each other. You don't need to ask children if they are having fun if they're having fun - children are brutally honest. Another cringeworthy bit was every time they said "Let's get the party started!" after doing something that should have been a party activity.

FWIW, I work in the fitness industry (with kids and adults), and have organised parties in excess of £1k. And yes, I've sat here organising the entire thing in my scruffy clothing and not even turned up to the event (and many times not even met the parents) - all parents have given very positive feedback. That's how managers operate, rather than dressing up in silly clothing or trying to do the hokey cokey to entertain a bunch of 11 year olds because I'd rather pay someone else £40 to do that and get on with the business of running the business!

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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moanthebairns said:
Gary https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-poulton-b81bba59

aka the postman, because he always gets the sack

Tesco it turns out is the huge retailer.
So he's definitely not won then!

Edited by jammy_basturd on Thursday 26th November 13:05

Evangelion

7,727 posts

178 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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The idea being that if you give a bunch of people something they'd never ever have to do in the normal scheme of things (because as Hoofy suggested, they'd all pay someone else to do it) then every one of them is going to fail to some extent. Then you can fire whoever you like, to keep the favourite(s) in until the very end.

This is why the teams keep getting reshuffled. Spread the favourites around, and some of them are bound to end up on the winning team, therefore rendering them unfireable.

KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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jammy_basturd said:
So he's definitely not won then!

Edited by jammy_basturd on Thursday 26th November 13:05
New food experiences. What does that even mean? Probably about as much as walking around with a dustbin lid on your arse all day which is apparently what they do there.

Oakey

27,566 posts

216 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Evangelion said:
The idea being that if you give a bunch of people something they'd never ever have to do in the normal scheme of things (because as Hoofy suggested, they'd all pay someone else to do it) then every one of them is going to fail to some extent. Then you can fire whoever you like, to keep the favourite(s) in until the very end.

This is why the teams keep getting reshuffled. Spread the favourites around, and some of them are bound to end up on the winning team, therefore rendering them unfireable.
They're not even that subtle this year!

How many times this series have we seen the rules changed to suit Sugars agenda? Multiple firings in one episode, firing people 'just because', having her stay in the boardroom last night, again, just 'because'

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Oakey said:
They're not even that subtle this year!

How many times this series have we seen the rules changed to suit Sugars agenda? Multiple firings in one episode, firing people 'just because', having her stay in the boardroom last night, again, just 'because'
I think they're just trying to "mix it up" a bit because they realise how days and tired the format is becoming.

It's also a very fine line between making it hard for the candidates to test them under pressure, and making the whole thing feel contrived!

turboslippers

187 posts

247 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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I'm sure as well that the trailer last week showed someone being wheeled out on a stretcher?? Did I imagine that?

I spent the whole show waiting for that moment and got very excited at the prospect of a comedy poisoning drama...I felt robbed afterwards! Boooo

regards
Ben

Bluedot

3,588 posts

107 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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jammy_basturd said:
I think they're just trying to "mix it up" a bit because they realise how days and tired the format is becoming.
I find the same thing happening over on ITV with I'm A Celeb as well.