The Apprentice - 2015

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moanthebairns

17,933 posts

198 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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Tonight just confirmed how contrived and scripted this is.

Who the fk buys a flat for a million without a floor plan. Who walks in and just buys a flat there and then.

The editing is quite incredible. Scott made an arse of it, but I can see why he's left. The constant back stabbing and bhing is pathetic.

That hairdresser owner, dear God she's so fking catty. As for the plumber, God father of business. Really. fk off. I guarantee half of them are like me. Own their own one man flyby night contracting firm. "ive grown my business. Blah blah blah it's huge" I bet you most couldn't even get a fking makcro card for theirs.

Same time next week?

mattyn1

5,744 posts

155 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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mattyn1 said:
Selina Waterman-Smith will win.
Shows what I know! She looks good in her pants anyway!

All I was thinking about was those that are in Million Dollar Listing New York, and how they supposedly sell property.

I did get a feeling the "customers" were actors though.

Zammy

557 posts

163 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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Selina not even making it the You're Fired show so they just got Scott on.... Hmmmmm

stevensdrs

3,210 posts

200 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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None of these "customers" would have been the real deal. Richard, the dark haired girl and the welsh girl will be the last 3 standing.

FourWheelDrift

88,486 posts

284 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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Zammy said:
Selina not even making it the You're Fired show so they just got Scott on.... Hmmmmm
I think she has been shouting her big mouth off claiming it's fixed. Which it is, but she's probably broken a contractual agreement with the producers.

AnotherClarkey

3,593 posts

189 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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Scott went full retard.

Dand E Lion

404 posts

106 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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If Super Mario doesn't get fired next week, I'll be getting ma gun...

moanthebairns

17,933 posts

198 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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FourWheelDrift said:
Zammy said:
Selina not even making it the You're Fired show so they just got Scott on.... Hmmmmm
I think she has been shouting her big mouth off claiming it's fixed. Which it is, but she's probably broken a contractual agreement with the producers.
Why do they fix it. It's so easy to do it correctly.

Who honestly sat there and thought yeah, they made 60K in one day, with no knowledge, first day in the job and no floor plan. Ridiculous

technodup

7,580 posts

130 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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moanthebairns said:
Who honestly sat there and thought yeah, they made 60K in one day, with no knowledge, first day in the job and no floor plan. Ridiculous
I might not have been paying attention but I'd assume the leads were provided so people were already in the market. From there, given it's London I don't doubt people do buy off plan without as much thought (or at least time) as you or I might give. Most will either be BTL or flipped before they're even completed, so hardly the same as your own home.

It's still manipulated for TV but I don't think it's as far away from reality as you might think.

moanthebairns

17,933 posts

198 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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technodup said:
moanthebairns said:
Who honestly sat there and thought yeah, they made 60K in one day, with no knowledge, first day in the job and no floor plan. Ridiculous
I might not have been paying attention but I'd assume the leads were provided so people were already in the market. From there, given it's London I don't doubt people do buy off plan without as much thought (or at least time) as you or I might give. Most will either be BTL or flipped before they're even completed, so hardly the same as your own home.

It's still manipulated for TV but I don't think it's as far away from reality as you might think.
They were selling them like teles or fridge freezers. I get what your saying though.

It really stood out how scripted it was with the reactions on Scott walking. No way on earth was that all he said. The three of their attitudes after was laughable. Oh we didn't want him anyway, oh pathetic, wasn't fit at all. Yet you let him progress through countless tasks.

Have a bit dignity say thank you and I wish you good luck.

Oh and someone call him fkinh Alan

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

136 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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Doesn't give a good impression when you read the stuff here:

http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/tv-radio/2015/...

which seems to be proving accurate.


If you're going to have a scripted show, have a scripted show. Don't mess people around and pretend otherwise and stitch things up in the background. Smacks of an amateur production team.

hungry_hog

2,226 posts

188 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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Well to call that a "team" task was stretching it - the level of interaction between the pairs was minimal.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, it does seem the series has slipped quite badly;

- Some of the contestants have lost all sense of protocol - stories being leaked to the press whilst the series is not completed, refusing to go on the after show. As a result, we all knew Scott and Selina's days were numbered.
- Producers running out of ideas - seems like most of the tasks are just "sell xyz". What happened to the advertising tasks of the past, treasure hunts in the souk in Marrakesh, tv shopping tasks, branding.
- The main requirement to get through seems to be sales and shouting ability. Anyone who has a more thoughtful or creative approach is usually patronised in the boardroom and then fired.
- Claude seems to bring nothing as an observer - Nick and Margaret were much more astute (and humorous to boot).

moanthebairns

17,933 posts

198 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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z4RRSchris said:
apparently Lord sugar didn't want to wear PPE
That really, really got on my tits. I am too big to wear PPE whilst on site, wtf are you saying. I am bigger than the safety of my staff and myself. Pathetic.

z4RRSchris

11,266 posts

179 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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it was actually green routed so you didn't need to wear PPE

Bluedot

3,581 posts

107 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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Agree with the other sentiments on here about the series going seriously downhill this time. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy it and watch it avidly but it does have the feel now of being scripted and set up.
Those arab guys buying the 1.4 million penthouse, really ? It looked like something out of Beadles About.
And the woman asking them what the average cost per square foot was for property in Stratford, apparently they were supposed to ask this question to the developer the day before as he 'had all the answers'. Absolutely ludicrous to expect someone with almost no experience in a particular trade to know what questions they are supposed to be asking.
Scott lost the plot a few weeks back, you knew it was last night he was going to walk (I knew he was going to but didnt know the exact episode) right from the beginning as the camera lingered on his face constantly. I think he was quite a genuine bloke that couldn't hack the bhing and general nastiness.
Yep, same time next week as a previous poster wrote smile

moanthebairns

17,933 posts

198 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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z4RRSchris said:
it was actually green routed so you didn't need to wear PPE
I'll take your word for it, I never noticed the signage.

Northbloke

643 posts

219 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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Bluedot said:
Those arab guys buying the 1.4 million penthouse, really ? It looked like something out of Beadles About.
Good one!

Well I've been an avid watcher of this for years and even got the kids interested using the Reality TV Trojan horse to expose them to something vaguely business related and "educational".

But they've wrung it and squeezed it so dry now that it no longer remotely resembles "business" (Ok it's always been a tenuous link!) and certainly not what I want my offspring to emulate. Cheat, lie, shout and undermine colleagues...OK Lord Shug.

In doing so it's lost all entertainment value too, I find myself just snoozing through it not caring what happens just waiting with morbid curiousity to see who gets booted out. As such I'll follow this series to the end now but unless they seriously refresh it I can't see me bothering again.




Ken Sington

3,959 posts

238 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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You are never going to win a sales instruction from a developer by telling him how much commission you want to earn either. Or pitching your fee proposal at over twice the going rate!

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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Jonesy23 said:
If you're going to have a scripted show, have a scripted show. Don't mess people around and pretend otherwise and stitch things up in the background. Smacks of an amateur production team.
The BBC seems to do this with all their most popular shows. Top Gear was/is the same, became more and more scripted and contrived with every series.

Puggit

48,426 posts

248 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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moanthebairns said:
z4RRSchris said:
apparently Lord sugar didn't want to wear PPE
That really, really got on my tits. I am too big to wear PPE whilst on site, wtf are you saying. I am bigger than the safety of my staff and myself. Pathetic.
Claude and Karren both donned the protective kit when they actually went inside, so presumably it wasn't that necessary on the platform for the intro.