SAS Who Dares Wins. Ch4

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chilistrucker

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151 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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Anyone?
Just watched the first episode, really enjoyed it and think the series should be worth following.

Shaw Tarse

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203 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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Watching on +1

AndyWoodall

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259 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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I wasn't going to watch as I expected it to be pretty much what we've seen before from this sort of thing.

However I found it quite refreshing. Especially loved the interview situations, the different angles those two staffers were taking when they had them in for a bit of light interrogation was particularly interesting.

Like one of them said at the prayer meeting, I also wouldn't have dropped Mr Jason Statham as I want to watch him break. smile


Edited by AndyWoodall on Monday 19th October 23:21

JJ55

651 posts

115 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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Really enjoyed this tonight it's on series link now. Hope more than one or two make it to the end.

chilistrucker

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4,541 posts

151 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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Mr Statham was very confident smile
Be interesting to see how they all develop, got it series linked also.

griffin dai

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149 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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I enjoyed that! Pretty good.

They're gonna fking melt Statham!!! hehe

lemmingjames

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204 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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Trouble is, i cant take the main instructor seriously as he just looks like a butch Rylan (once youve seen it, you wont forget laugh)



ok not the best picture but;



Also bit ironic that they call it SAS when the instructors are all former SBS

PBDirector

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130 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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I wanted to hate this on principle.
...but if you set principle aside, it was great telly.

Focussing on the personalities and motivations buys you into the story. The instructors are obviously decent guys, and I'm a sucker for an underdog turned good. Looking forward to the rest.

Only thing I wonder is - when you're doing selection for real, you've got that to hang your mental framework on. Can you REALLY do the same thing knowing it's just a TV programme?

Nezquick

1,461 posts

126 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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I really enjoyed it last night - very interesting. I reckon the Statham bloke will actually do quite well. He seemed to have the right attitude in the interview section - like they're never going to get under his skin.

It'll be good to watch them try though!

PH5121

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213 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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I watched it and thought it was good entertainment.

I have just read the Bear Grylls biography 'Mud, Sweat and Tears' (bought for me by my son who is a big fan of his)in which he recounts the special forces selection process he went through. What they encountered on last nights episode reflected some aspects of this.

It seemed easier than his description, but it wouldn't have made a good tv series to lose all the candidates in the first episode (and BG may have 'spiced' it up for the reader in his book - only someone who has done it would know how accurate it is).

I will be watching the other episodes to see how they get on.

marcosgt

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176 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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PBDirector said:
Only thing I wonder is - when you're doing selection for real, you've got that to hang your mental framework on. Can you REALLY do the same thing knowing it's just a TV programme?
I'd have thought the desire to do something was the same, really.

If someone's mentality is 'oh, it's only TV', they're probably the kind of person who gives up learning to swim the first time they get water in their eyes biggrin

Whether these people (I've not watched it yet) are the kind of people who would really be up for selection has to be questionable of course (maybe that wouldn't make such good TV?), but I suspect people who would be would want to succeed at whatever they do.

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PBDirector

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130 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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marcosgt said:
Whether these people (I've not watched it yet) are the kind of people who would really be up for selection has to be questionable of course
Well quite. It's not just knowing that the process has a real worthwile outcome for your life, it's being surrounded with other people that have the same (or better) mentality than you. If they've chosen a proportion of the candidates in the same way as "the apprentice" chooses business candidates, then it'll help the programme, but perhaps not the contestants.

With regards to Jason Statham, I think he's being set up for a "boy has plot, boy loses plot, boy gets plot again" story line...

CalNaughtonJnr

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161 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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I also picked up on the fact most of the staff seemed to be ex SBS - Is the selection process any different to the SAS?

They didn't seem to show much back story to the recruits but it would appear that they are more or less ordinary guys rather than the OCR/Triathlete types in Ultimate Hell Week

PBDirector

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130 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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CalNaughtonJnr said:
I also picked up on the fact most of the staff seemed to be ex SBS - Is the selection process any different to the SAS?
wetter and less falling-thru-the-air-y, I would imagine(?)

ETA non-facetious-content: I'm guessing all selections are about finding where your limit is, and what happens when you get there. Can you do what's required. Can you be trusted.

Edited by PBDirector on Tuesday 20th October 10:25

lemmingjames

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204 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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Theres a few SBS books out there, Duncan Falconer(?) wrote about his training if you want to read up more. But i think with the swimmming involved, its lot more physically involving

According to C4 website, i think 3/5 of the staff are SAS

audidoody

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256 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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Great entertainment. Like "Big Brother" on steroids.

I don't kid myself that this is authentic. Everything on TV is directed, edited, scripted and shot to entertain.

I doubt any of these candidates will be put in a life-threatening situation. C4's insurance wouldn't cover a couple of them dying from multiple organ failure.

Jasandjules

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229 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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audidoody said:
C4's insurance wouldn't cover a couple of them dying from multiple organ failure.
Reasonably sure that most deaths in training for special forces are by drowning - especially river crossing during jungle training....


audidoody

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256 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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Rick_1138

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178 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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I only saw a few minutes of this last night, but i saw when they seemed to be doing interviews of the lads, they all seemed glazed over, were they being denied sleep?

The staff instructed them to only answer when he asked them to, then one nugget put his hand up, the staff's response was priceless.

I may give the rest of this a watch as i thought it was another 'are you hard enough' type programs.

audidoody

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256 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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I watched the BBC Special Forces series that just finished. It's interesting comparing the SAS training style with the US Navy Seal methods.

The SAS instructors are relatively soft-spoken with the trainees while the Seals' style is to relentlessly scream in the candidates' faces.