SAS Who Dares Wins. Ch4
Discussion
Rick_1138 said:
I only saw a few minutes of this last night, but i saw when they seemed to be doing interviews of the lads, they all seemed glazed over, were they being denied sleep?
The staff instructed them to only answer when he asked them to, then one nugget put his hand up, the staff's response was priceless.
I may give the rest of this a watch as i thought it was another 'are you hard enough' type programs.
I think they said 4 hours sleep in 40. Still, if they are doing this to escape a newborn they are doing well. The staff instructed them to only answer when he asked them to, then one nugget put his hand up, the staff's response was priceless.
I may give the rest of this a watch as i thought it was another 'are you hard enough' type programs.
Anyone can have a crack at joining the sas as long as your armed forces, and sbs only recruit from the marines I believe.
CalNaughtonJnr said:
I also picked up on the fact most of the staff seemed to be ex SBS - Is the selection process any different to the SAS?
They didn't seem to show much back story to the recruits but it would appear that they are more or less ordinary guys rather than the OCR/Triathlete types in Ultimate Hell Week
They didn't seem to show much back story to the recruits but it would appear that they are more or less ordinary guys rather than the OCR/Triathlete types in Ultimate Hell Week
CalNaughtonJnr said:
I also picked up on the fact most of the staff seemed to be ex SBS - Is the selection process any different to the SAS?
They didn't seem to show much back story to the recruits but it would appear that they are more or less ordinary guys rather than the OCR/Triathlete types in Ultimate Hell Week
All selection for UKSF is joint these days, in the sense that SAS and SBS go through precisely the same process together except for certain peculiarities (officer candidates for SAS selection have to do the critical officers's week. That doesn't apply to the SBS). Candidates for the SRR run a different selection process.They didn't seem to show much back story to the recruits but it would appear that they are more or less ordinary guys rather than the OCR/Triathlete types in Ultimate Hell Week
The SBS is of course predominantly recruited from the Royal Marines, and the odd Royal Navy matelot that scrapes through, but there are Marines in the SAS, and SAS officers are often seconded to the SBS, particularly as Squadron Commanders. The relationship between the two organisations is close, but not without its tensions.
The SRR are a genuinely interesting bunch. Lots more 'real world' type stuff, less balconies and oil rigs.
I've just caught up on this and enjoyed it. Not too 'showy'.
Someone commented that the 'staff' are much more softly spoken than the 'hoo-haa' American counterparts.
I don't know anyone from the SAS/SBS (knowingly), but my experience with Marines (who I used to know a few of) is similar - They're often quite stocky and averagely tall and don't feel the need to throw their weight around in any way. They exude a quiet confidence, rather than telling the world hard eff-ing hard they are...
Like some of them, I'm hoping the stuntman takes a big fall, but I can't see the appeal of the MMA dad to some of them, personally...
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Someone commented that the 'staff' are much more softly spoken than the 'hoo-haa' American counterparts.
I don't know anyone from the SAS/SBS (knowingly), but my experience with Marines (who I used to know a few of) is similar - They're often quite stocky and averagely tall and don't feel the need to throw their weight around in any way. They exude a quiet confidence, rather than telling the world hard eff-ing hard they are...
Like some of them, I'm hoping the stuntman takes a big fall, but I can't see the appeal of the MMA dad to some of them, personally...
M
marcosgt said:
I've just caught up on this and enjoyed it. Not too 'showy'.
Someone commented that the 'staff' are much more softly spoken than the 'hoo-haa' American counterparts.
I don't know anyone from the SAS/SBS (knowingly), but my experience with Marines (who I used to know a few of) is similar - They're often quite stocky and averagely tall and don't feel the need to throw their weight around in any way. They exude a quiet confidence, rather than telling the world hard eff-ing hard they are...
Like some of them, I'm hoping the stuntman takes a big fall, but I can't see the appeal of the MMA dad to some of them, personally...
M
Just caught up with it myself.Someone commented that the 'staff' are much more softly spoken than the 'hoo-haa' American counterparts.
I don't know anyone from the SAS/SBS (knowingly), but my experience with Marines (who I used to know a few of) is similar - They're often quite stocky and averagely tall and don't feel the need to throw their weight around in any way. They exude a quiet confidence, rather than telling the world hard eff-ing hard they are...
Like some of them, I'm hoping the stuntman takes a big fall, but I can't see the appeal of the MMA dad to some of them, personally...
M
The stuntman would be hated by everyone if he were in the forces. As one of the staff said, its all about team work, and a lot of that comes down to mentality not physical strength. I thought it was great that he didn't finish the fan dance and "lesser" people did. Even then he wanted to make sure every one new he had got back to the peak.
The MMA guy touched a nerve as he's a bad guy trying to better himself. There area lot of people in the forces who would have gone off the rails if they hadn't joined up. It gives them the friendship, discipline and support structure they need in their lives. That said he's not making the grade and the Staff should not be giving him a break because they like him.
I'm ex-forces myself and have spend a few weeks in the Brecon Beacons doing similar stuff, including Pen-y-fan (not in the same time though!). I've also done the same PT stuff at that abandoned station. I suspect a lot of ex-forces will have walked/run those routes
Halb said:
I like them showing the relationship between the SAS peeps as well as the recruits.
'We shall eat till we are sick!'
It's also nice to see a few of the staff doing their little pieces to camera (plus of course it endears them to you so that you'll watch the whole series even if your favourite recruit is booted off).'We shall eat till we are sick!'
Spiffing said:
The moment when the alarm went off and they had to scarper made me smile. I think they underestimated some of the recruits
I enjoyed that too, that young lad has impressed me especially after lugging that massive bloke up the hill on his back. A lot of determination and seems smart and switched on too. A few of the others have been quietly slogging away in the background, look promising too.It's reminding me a smidge of the Bear Grylls tv program where he put some people though parts of the French Foreign Legion training. Only thing is I can't remember if that show was crap or good.
Surprisingly, I'm enjoying this series so far.
Spiffing said:
With the bit when 2 of them escaped and 2 refused to move, it didn't make it clear (or I got distracted and missed it) which was the correct choice. Can anyone shed light on this, or was it a personality test?
It ended that particular ex for that group, suggesting it was the right move. As with anything in selection though, there isn't really a 'right' choice. Its all about revealing your real character and whether its suitable for the core values of the SF world - just look at the big lad, hes proven he can do pretty much whatever they throw at him both physically and mentally, but now theyre seeing his true character he's treading the line of being unsuitable. Fortunately he seems to know exactly what to say in the TQ sessions. They know that his arrogance will either make him an excellent soldier or a terrible one - a big risk to take when you're part of a small team.I dare say if the four of them hadnt moved it probably wouldnt have had an adverse effect on their outcome. It stops the recruits from having downtime/rest while giving the DS staff the chance to have something to eat - something which caught them off-guard when two of them figured it out! The less downtime they have, the more restless they become and the more their guard drops. Everything is designed to show your true character.
Rogue86 said:
Spiffing said:
With the bit when 2 of them escaped and 2 refused to move, it didn't make it clear (or I got distracted and missed it) which was the correct choice. Can anyone shed light on this, or was it a personality test?
It ended that particular ex for that group, suggesting it was the right move. As with anything in selection though, there isn't really a 'right' choice. Its all about revealing your real character and whether its suitable for the core values of the SF world - just look at the big lad, hes proven he can do pretty much whatever they throw at him both physically and mentally, but now theyre seeing his true character he's treading the line of being unsuitable. Fortunately he seems to know exactly what to say in the TQ sessions. They know that his arrogance will either make him an excellent soldier or a terrible one - a big risk to take when you're part of a small team.I dare say if the four of them hadnt moved it probably wouldnt have had an adverse effect on their outcome. It stops the recruits from having downtime/rest while giving the DS staff the chance to have something to eat - something which caught them off-guard when two of them figured it out! The less downtime they have, the more restless they become and the more their guard drops. Everything is designed to show your true character.
He's basically a d
head with a massively high opinion of himself. He's only reason for wanting to pass "selection" would be to brag about it. Professionalism and teamwork is the last thing on his mind.chilistrucker said:
He certainly is an arrogant sod, I'm just wondering if they are interested in seeing if they can steer him in the right direction.
I was impressed with the 19 year old not giving up on the fire mans carry up the hill.
I doubt it. I was impressed with the 19 year old not giving up on the fire mans carry up the hill.
The aim of basic training is to strip you of your civilian habits, and build a military mindset. That's why so many fail in the early stages (I mean normal military basic training).
SF Selection on the other hand is not there to train you, its there to pick the best for a particular job. You will hear them keep going on about trust, mentality, teamwork etc. You must already have the right skills.
They would be more interested in someone who was always pushing and helping the rest of the team.
I agree with the 19 year old. that was way more impressive than anything the stuntman has done.
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