SAS Who Dares Wins. Ch4

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LordHaveMurci

12,042 posts

169 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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marcosgt said:
I don't suppose anyway really thinks it's like that for real, but it was an interesting insight.

Actually, thinking back, there was a similar (quite well done) thing on the French Foreign Legion some years ago...

M.
Was that the one with Bear Grylls?

marcosgt

11,019 posts

176 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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LordHaveMurci said:
Was that the one with Bear Grylls?
Might have been, I forget now.

Very similar format, though, get some guys in the desert with some former Legionnaires and put them through their induction course.

Every week someone bailed or was kicked out, although, it was less a 'selection process' than an indoctrination one, breaking them to get them to conform, which apparently is very important with the Legion as so many are dodgy characters (many on the run).

M.

Joratk

432 posts

110 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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V8mate said:
Did anyone happen to notice what make of boot the DS were wearing round the barracks? The only feature I could make out was a leather 'stirrup' detail (stitched, not literally a stirrup!) round the back of the heel.

Edited by V8mate on Monday 23 November 14:31
If you can post a photo I may be able to help you ID them.

Blaster72

10,838 posts

197 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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Joey Ramone said:
Blaster72 said:
Yep, why? I don't understand either.
Because they are profiting from a cheap, bdized, made-for-tv version of something the serving guys hold very dear, which is the 6 month slog known as 'selection'. Added to which, it showed nothing of the incredibly sophisticated aspects of that process. There was nothing except a bit of a physical beasting followed by an inaccurate glimpse into an RTI scenario. Ultimately it was completely unenlightening, (even allowing for the fact that it couldn't be revealing).

Just reporting back on what I was told, that's all.
Sounds like a horsest reason for getting upset to me. Plenty of ex forces people do similar courses.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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Joey Ramone said:
Blaster72 said:
Yep, why? I don't understand either.
Because they are profiting from a cheap, bdized, made-for-tv version of something the serving guys hold very dear, which is the 6 month slog known as 'selection'. Added to which, it showed nothing of the incredibly sophisticated aspects of that process. There was nothing except a bit of a physical beasting followed by an inaccurate glimpse into an RTI scenario. Ultimately it was completely unenlightening, (even allowing for the fact that it couldn't be revealing).

Just reporting back on what I was told, that's all.
Same could be said about any TV show about anything.

I would hope the SAS have better things to worry about than how they are portrayed on a TV show.

monthefish

20,443 posts

231 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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Joey Ramone said:
Blaster72 said:
Yep, why? I don't understand either.
Because they are profiting from a cheap, bdized, made-for-tv version of something the serving guys hold very dear, which is the 6 month slog known as 'selection'. Added to which, it showed nothing of the incredibly sophisticated aspects of that process. There was nothing except a bit of a physical beasting followed by an inaccurate glimpse into an RTI scenario. Ultimately it was completely unenlightening, (even allowing for the fact that it couldn't be revealing).

Just reporting back on what I was told, that's all.
Told by whom?
scratchchin

Did you attend the recent SF community coffee morning?

Halmyre

11,193 posts

139 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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marcosgt said:
LordHaveMurci said:
Was that the one with Bear Grylls?
Might have been, I forget now.

Very similar format, though, get some guys in the desert with some former Legionnaires and put them through their induction course.

Every week someone bailed or was kicked out, although, it was less a 'selection process' than an indoctrination one, breaking them to get them to conform, which apparently is very important with the Legion as so many are dodgy characters (many on the run).

M.
I remember one where the Legionnaires were getting singing lessons and kept getting sent out to do push-ups because the instructor didn't like their singing.


Joey Ramone

2,150 posts

125 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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monthefish said:
Told by whom?
scratchchin

Did you attend the recent SF community coffee morning?
Closer to the truth than you might imagine.

Joey Ramone

2,150 posts

125 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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Ayahuasca said:
Same could be said about any TV show about anything.

I would hope the SAS have better things to worry about than how they are portrayed on a TV show.
They're not worrying. It's simply that the guys doing the TV show have been 'gently' ostracized. I reiterate, this is simply what I've heard on the grapevine.

Blaster72

10,838 posts

197 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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Joey Ramone said:
monthefish said:
Told by whom?
scratchchin

Did you attend the recent SF community coffee morning?
Closer to the truth than you might imagine.
Does that mean you're now in the st for putting "the beef" all over the internet? Sounds very implausible that you serve your country at the highest level only to be shunned because you make a fking tv show. I call total bullst on this one

HarryW

15,150 posts

269 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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Joey Ramone said:
Ayahuasca said:
Same could be said about any TV show about anything.

I would hope the SAS have better things to worry about than how they are portrayed on a TV show.
They're not worrying. It's simply that the guys doing the TV show have been 'gently' ostracized. I reiterate, this is simply what I've heard on the grapevine.
What about the embedded mole, I thought he was a serving booty, probably looking to take selection?

0000

13,812 posts

191 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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Didn't work out too well for Snowden. I can well imagine they aren't impressed, even if they aren't particularly wound up about it.

Blaster72

10,838 posts

197 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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0000 said:
Didn't work out too well for Snowden. I can well imagine they aren't impressed, even if they aren't particularly wound up about it.
I can't believe you're comparing that traitor and his actions with these lads.

0000

13,812 posts

191 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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There aren't very many people who've left these communities and traded off it to choose from.

Edited by 0000 on Monday 23 November 19:02

0000

13,812 posts

191 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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How about Andy McNab for a better example?

Joey Ramone

2,150 posts

125 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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Blaster72 said:
I call total bullst on this one
Knock yourself out.

Blaster72

10,838 posts

197 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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Well, you have to admit it does all sound a tiny bit fanciful. Are they really that precious?

Joey Ramone

2,150 posts

125 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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Blaster72 said:
Well, you have to admit it does all sound a tiny bit fanciful. Are they really that precious?
It's not a question of being precious, I don't think. It's more a question of taking exception to something that they are very proprietorial about - the selection process - and seeing some former mates using a cheap 1 week long version to present an inaccurate image for TV, for profit. They've no problem with people making money out of an SF background as long as it isn't served up for public consumption

I'm not saying they're right to feel like that, and I'm sure most of them have other things to worry about, but they do genuinely take notice when ex-SF guys pop up into the limelight in this fashion. For their part, those guys are entitled to make a living in whichever way they want, as long as they break no rules.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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Not sure they can be that bothered about it - ex SAS types have been making a living with this kind of thing for years. Remember Dermot O Leary's show years ago with Eddie Stone? Same thing. One ex soldier has even set up his own assault course business thing literally next door to the SAS camp in Hereford.

daddy cool

4,001 posts

229 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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V8mate said:
Did anyone happen to notice what make of boot the DS were wearing round the barracks? The only feature I could make out was a leather 'stirrup' detail (stitched, not literally a stirrup!) round the back of the heel.
This season, Ant is wearing our new range, inspired by urban military uniforms that look great whether you are “off to work” or just “off duty”. From his functional trousers (with lots of useful pockets for his iphone and wallet) to his super-warm knitted balaclava, there something for everyone that wants a wardrobe that goes behind enemy lines.
We caught up with Ant and asked him what he thought: “I love it – its pretty casual for meeting my mates in Shoreditch, but its easy to add an accessory or two to really smarten it up. Maybe an ammo belt to accentuate my waistline, or a couple of flashbangs strapped to the front of my jacket to make a conversation starter”