SAS Who Dares Wins. Ch4
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I have a feeling the 19 year old will go all the way, it was seriously impressive to see him carry the 18 stone bloke up the hill, sheer drive and determination. He also has "something" about him, you can see it in his eyes.
I hope they give Statham hell in the coming weeks, knock him down a peg or two
I hope they give Statham hell in the coming weeks, knock him down a peg or two
'Statham' does seem a prat when he talks, but I noticed a few times last night he was shouting encouragement, I think he's more of a team player than he likes to admit to the camera.
The student was certainly determined - You could see he was physically on the limits of what he could do, but he carried on and finished. I was surprised it was his partner who bailed when they said let's do it again.
I thought the voiceover said the exercise on the pipe was to see how quickly people escaped (just standing there was the WRONG thing to do).
Interesting programme - Obviously impossible to know how close it is to real selection, I'm sure I've read stuff that says that it can get quite violent and we've not seen any examples of that yet.
M.
The student was certainly determined - You could see he was physically on the limits of what he could do, but he carried on and finished. I was surprised it was his partner who bailed when they said let's do it again.
I thought the voiceover said the exercise on the pipe was to see how quickly people escaped (just standing there was the WRONG thing to do).
Interesting programme - Obviously impossible to know how close it is to real selection, I'm sure I've read stuff that says that it can get quite violent and we've not seen any examples of that yet.
M.
The only reason I see 'Statham' wanting to pass selection is to further add to his own heightened opinion of himself. I don't see him as a team player in any sense of the word. In the heat of the moment, under intense pressure, I imagine he'd do something on impulse and without thought that would harm his team - would you like him at your side in the battlefield? I certainly wouldn't.
That being said, a lot of what we've seen thus far could be down to some selective TV editing...
The 19 year old lad was impressive, true grit and determination to lug that guy up the hill. I'll be very surprised if he doesn't make it, he seems to be made of the right stuff.
That being said, a lot of what we've seen thus far could be down to some selective TV editing...
The 19 year old lad was impressive, true grit and determination to lug that guy up the hill. I'll be very surprised if he doesn't make it, he seems to be made of the right stuff.
dub16v said:
The only reason I see 'Statham' wanting to pass selection is to further add to his own heightened opinion of himself. I don't see him as a team player in any sense of the word. In the heat of the moment, under intense pressure, I imagine he'd do something on impulse and without thought that would harm his team - would you like him at your side in the battlefield? I certainly wouldn't.
No idea - I don't have any military experience to call on, so I can't judge. Lots of squadies have a high opinion of themselves and he certainly doesn't match the self-assured, but less brash, character of Marines I've met, but he's probably been bought up on a diet of s
t films and American SF documentaries, so he probably thinks that's how he's SUPPOSED to act. His encouragement of others on the exercises, surprised me and suggested that, deep down, he might actually be someone who would be solid under pressure.
Time will tell. It might just be a manifestation of his belief that he's the natural leader
M
The Stunman, they need to work him harder, a lot harder. The young lad carrying the 18st fella, that was amazing stuff, really impressive. They need to push Statham to that attitude level and beyond. I thought during the sickener he was going to finally get it, but he didn't. It's annoying, during the final interview he was starting to get there, he was slowly admitting why he was essentially a complete knob and fked up, or maybe he was just pandering. But that's why they need to break him.
Anyway, I actually like the show. I was expecting it to be all in your face with the tough guy shouty attitude stuff. But the staff seem to actually care, they're not just a screaming ball of anger.
Looking forward to the Fear episode next week.
ked up, or maybe he was just pandering. But that's why they need to break him. Anyway, I actually like the show. I was expecting it to be all in your face with the tough guy shouty attitude stuff. But the staff seem to actually care, they're not just a screaming ball of anger.
Looking forward to the Fear episode next week.
I think the young lad was very plucky. Good luck to him.
Statham is a knob, really, you'd probably get to the root of his problems and the core of his personality dah-dee-dah, but in the final analysis he'd have to radically change attitudes in the real world. Imagine him in the DS shoes....it'd be all that angry barking, showing off and missing the point stuff that Hollywood is so fond of.
Statham is a knob, really, you'd probably get to the root of his problems and the core of his personality dah-dee-dah, but in the final analysis he'd have to radically change attitudes in the real world. Imagine him in the DS shoes....it'd be all that angry barking, showing off and missing the point stuff that Hollywood is so fond of.
Mafffew said:
Anyway, I actually like the show. I was expecting it to be all in your face with the tough guy shouty attitude stuff. But the staff seem to actually care, they're not just a screaming ball of anger.
Not having watched the series, but think it sounds like it could be quite good, the SF selectors know it will be a waste of time being shouty and ranty, being as that all the selectees will have proved that they can survive 14 weeks of basic training being shouted at 18 hours a day After a while, it just washes over you. You know you have fked up big time when they act all calm and collected though!marcosgt said:
No idea - I don't have any military experience to call on, so I can't judge.
Lots of squadies have a high opinion of themselves and he certainly doesn't match the self-assured, but less brash, character of Marines I've met, but he's probably been bought up on a diet of st films and American SF documentaries, so he probably thinks that's how he's SUPPOSED to act.
His encouragement of others on the exercises, surprised me and suggested that, deep down, he might actually be someone who would be solid under pressure.
Time will tell. It might just be a manifestation of his belief that he's the natural leader
M
I too have no military experience but one can make a reasoned assumption. Whether it turns out to be correct is another matter entirely!Lots of squadies have a high opinion of themselves and he certainly doesn't match the self-assured, but less brash, character of Marines I've met, but he's probably been bought up on a diet of s
t films and American SF documentaries, so he probably thinks that's how he's SUPPOSED to act. His encouragement of others on the exercises, surprised me and suggested that, deep down, he might actually be someone who would be solid under pressure.
Time will tell. It might just be a manifestation of his belief that he's the natural leader
M
Good point re encouraging the others, I had forgotten that. I do hope that he comes good, the dialogue presented thus far seems to suggest that he might but that's perhaps some TV trickery.
Looking forward to next week's show.
Don't forget we only see the edited highlights.
Hats off to all of them, but yes the 19 year old did well.
As for 'Statham,' I got the impression it was his cack-handed way of inspiring his team mates, which is better than doing nothing at all.
Had to laugh at the lads refusing to speak to those that escaped their cable ties in the dark.
Hats off to all of them, but yes the 19 year old did well.
As for 'Statham,' I got the impression it was his cack-handed way of inspiring his team mates, which is better than doing nothing at all.
Had to laugh at the lads refusing to speak to those that escaped their cable ties in the dark.
I don't know if I am being ungenerous, but the thought that Statham might have a hint of aspergers or special needs crossed my mind. With the history he gave of his interests and the 'well everyone wants to be a ninja' line. Hmmmm, was he the sort of teenager who ran around with a huge knife thinking he was Rambo...and then still was doing that in his 20s?
Really enjoyable series.
Had to laugh at wannabe stunt-man, when he said ''they haven't given any thought to what it'll do asking who we think is the weakest''. He obviously has zero comprehension of what goes into the these exercises. That said, I actually think there's a nice guy in there somewhere. It's just well hidden under a total arse.
The 19 year old really has some grit about him. I imagine he has quite a military career ahead of him.
Had to laugh at wannabe stunt-man, when he said ''they haven't given any thought to what it'll do asking who we think is the weakest''. He obviously has zero comprehension of what goes into the these exercises. That said, I actually think there's a nice guy in there somewhere. It's just well hidden under a total arse.
The 19 year old really has some grit about him. I imagine he has quite a military career ahead of him.
Yeah didn't the young lad say he wanted to join the marines after and that there was a history of the military in his family.
They were making out he was lazy earlier on I don't think it was that though it was probably a combination of not being at full man strength yet and trying to conserve energy for future PT, he's probably 12st others are 15-16st thats a big difference when you're lugging a 35lb rucksack about
They were making out he was lazy earlier on I don't think it was that though it was probably a combination of not being at full man strength yet and trying to conserve energy for future PT, he's probably 12st others are 15-16st thats a big difference when you're lugging a 35lb rucksack about
In really enjoying this show too and I can only repeat what others are saying about the young lad and who you call Mr statham (I nicknamed him Hollywood)
This kind of thing really interests me, I would love to give it a go. if I had heard of it when channel 4 were asking for applicants, I would definitely have put my name down.
This kind of thing really interests me, I would love to give it a go. if I had heard of it when channel 4 were asking for applicants, I would definitely have put my name down.
callmedave said:
This kind of thing really interests me, I would love to give it a go. if I had heard of it when channel 4 were asking for applicants, I would definitely have put my name down.
Funny you say that.When my wife saw I'd recorded it she said "Why? Do you fancy doing it then?"
Given I'm 53, at best averagely fit and struggle to briskly walk 3 miles due to a dodgy knee, I think I'd be a pretty poor candidate, but it does make you think how you'd cope with the mental pressure, even if you know you couldn't cope physically.
Some things I think would be no problem, but others I think I'd struggle with, but I guess you never know unless you're subjected to things, sometimes people rise to the challenge and other things just overwhelm then.
M
marcosgt said:
Funny you say that.
When my wife saw I'd recorded it she said "Why? Do you fancy doing it then?"
Given I'm 53, at best averagely fit and struggle to briskly walk 3 miles due to a dodgy knee, I think I'd be a pretty poor candidate, but it does make you think how you'd cope with the mental pressure, even if you know you couldn't cope physically.
Some things I think would be no problem, but others I think I'd struggle with, but I guess you never know unless you're subjected to things, sometimes people rise to the challenge and other things just overwhelm then.
M
When I watch it I picture myself in that situation. I'm generally in good shape and I'm competative, but I would like to see how I would perform in that situation. I would like to find my limits given the motivation of wanting to finish. I'm gonna go to a local boot camp tonight!When my wife saw I'd recorded it she said "Why? Do you fancy doing it then?"
Given I'm 53, at best averagely fit and struggle to briskly walk 3 miles due to a dodgy knee, I think I'd be a pretty poor candidate, but it does make you think how you'd cope with the mental pressure, even if you know you couldn't cope physically.
Some things I think would be no problem, but others I think I'd struggle with, but I guess you never know unless you're subjected to things, sometimes people rise to the challenge and other things just overwhelm then.
M
I've just watched the first one so i have stopped reading this thread on page 2 , My father in law was in the WW2 equivalent of these guys & only once when we got him pissed up did he ever mentioned what he'd done at Arnhem.
He said once to me whilst we were watching Magnum PI that he'd been up in a plane 32 times but had never landed in one , The bones in his balls of his feet were all over the place as he couldn't see the ground when he parachuted in the dark ! Kind of brought home a reality of how brave these boys are & were, he was an amazing man sadly & missed.
Sorry to prattle on but i really enjoyed this first episode & i thought the main instructor bared a huge resemblance to Ronnie barker in Porridge , How fit was that Foxy fella....funk me
He said once to me whilst we were watching Magnum PI that he'd been up in a plane 32 times but had never landed in one , The bones in his balls of his feet were all over the place as he couldn't see the ground when he parachuted in the dark ! Kind of brought home a reality of how brave these boys are & were, he was an amazing man sadly & missed.
Sorry to prattle on but i really enjoyed this first episode & i thought the main instructor bared a huge resemblance to Ronnie barker in Porridge , How fit was that Foxy fella....funk me
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