Planning permission - turning a detahced into a semi

[oblio]

Mods: I'm not sure if this fits here or in Speed, Plod and the Law so please move if incorrectly placed....

All else being equal, could PP be granted on one detached property where the extension would in effect turn both it and the detached property next door into semi detached?

Out NDN mentioned they were considering applying for PP last summer to do just this (extend over their garage and put an extra bedroom on which would attach to our house).

Cheers

[mikebradford]

Think you may need to clarify

Your neighbor wants to extend such, that their structure would physically touch yours? Whereby it currently doesn't?
This implies that your structure is built upto the actual boundary?
so likely your outer facing material defines the boundary.

Might be worth posting a picture, or at least stating age of properties etc.

From your original comment it states your detatched, but then you state they want to build over their garage. in effect attaching to your house.
I take from this their garage already attaches to your house? if so your house isnt actually detatched

Planning guidance changed fairly recently, such that additional measures are required to prevent the terracing effect on situations similar to this

If above is correct theirs a whole world of issues with that, if your not happy to allow them to.

Edited by mikebradford on Friday 5th February 13:23

[weeboot]

Detached, or link detached?

[oblio]

Thanks both

yes link detached would be a better description - sorry

Their garage is attached to our house. The previous owners of ours (in fact the ones before that) extended our house so that we do have a bedroom above our garage. The neighbours want to do the same.

Whilst part of me would say that they should be afforded the same right as whoever owned our house at the time it was done to ours; the other part of me is concerned regarding values as this house represents a fair chunk of our retirement plan so equity in our property is needed!

[mikebradford]

Reality is the houses combined! would look less attractive.
And as such i imagine this would result in some loss of value.

The fact your built up to the boundary at first floor doesn't necessarily mean they can do the same. planning law evolves and as such guidance is such to prevent this exact scenario happening to the detriment of the street scene.

So encourage your neighbor to discus their proposals
If they are good neighbors im sure you'd rather have them stay than take the chance of idiots moving in.

Within the confines of the planning system i would like to think theirs a happy medium that will keep you both happy.

[Foliage]

Its highly unlikely this will get past planning or building control for numerous reasons, I wouldn't worry at this stage. If it does go to planning its a simple matter to officially object.

[oblio]

Thanks folks

That does reassure somewhat

[Equus]

oblio said:

All else being equal, could PP be granted on one detached property where the extension would in effect turn both it and the detached property next door into semi detached?

All else being equal, the short answer is yes.

Broadly speaking, PP has nothing to do with rights of ownership.

I could submit a Planning Application to demolish your house and replace with with a 150 foot statue of President Putin, and it would have to be considered on its merits under a fairly limited range of considerations that are 'material' in terms of Planning law (amongst which, effect on the value of a neighbouring property is not one, incidentally). You could object, but your objection would actually carry no more weight than that of any other member of the public.

You'll be pleased to know, however, that even if PP was granted, I couldn't then legally erect said statue of President Putin without your agreement as landowner, but that's a different matter.

If your house is 'zero plotted' (ie. there is no strip of land in your ownership between the side wall of your house and the boundary with your neighbour), then the most relevant bit of legislation that controls your neighbour's proposal is the Party Wall Act

[V8RX7]

Most councils policy is to avoid terracing and not let people build within 1m of their boundary.

Should be very simple to find of your Council's website.

[oblio]

Once again, thanks...I'll do some research

Putin, hmmm....

[ColinM50]

I sit on the planning committee of our town council and would have no hesitation in allowing it. In fact there's no reason to reject it, there's precedent in that your house has done it, so why would us planners say next door can't? Sorry OP, you've not got a leg to stand on.

[Jasandjules]

oblio said:

Their garage is attached to our house. The previous owners of ours (in fact the ones before that) extended our house so that we do have a bedroom above our garage. The neighbours want to do the same.

Ok, so you want to see if you can stop them having what you have?

I'd imagine they can fairly say there is precedent in the street to allow their planning.. There will need to be a party wall issue but apart from that I can't see why any application would be rejected.

[fuzzyyo]

Not sure about the original question but a lot of properties on my road have extended to just short of the boundary and now there are numerous houses with a couple of inches gap between them. Would look much better if they just terraced them imo.