Royal Navy School
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AshVX220 said:
hidetheelephants said:
There was a series about Army phase 1 a couple of years ago.
Bugger, missed that one.Edited by hidetheelephants on Wednesday 23 March 19:43
E24man said:
Another ex-Tiff here, D204...., 852 entry.
I warched with quiet bemusement at how relaxed everthing was.
The fatty GI was an embarassment to all Service personnel everywhere. The rest of the instructors seemed ok considering the TV crew were in their faces a fair amount. The Chief who tried to save the telephone prat has been mentioned as being a little more realistic, perhaps because he was a Submariner where there was traditionally more emphasis on technical professionalism than outright discipline.
I had been aware the RN was very short of all kinds of engineers; perhaps this is partly due to their ending of the Artificer Training in 2010.
I joined in 1985 with well over 600 other potential Tiffs, one of three similar entries every year. We were streamed fairly equally into Air, Weapon and Marine engineering apprenticeships. Of the over 200 who started at Sultan just over 60 finished their apprenticeships at all with just seven of us finishing on time in late 1989 (IIRC).
The attrition rate was so high simply because the standards were so high; as someone else mentioned it was pretty much an exam a week for three and a half years, three fails a term and you get back-classed (put back into the class four months behind you to repeat the term again), more than two back-classes and unless there were exceptional circumstances you were out of a job and a career for good. There was absolutely no option to apply ever again and no option for re-streaming to another trade or branch, just a ticket home and hand in your card and uniform before you go.
Artificers were pretty much universally resented by other RN Branches because of the rapid techincal based promotions but these were the reward for the skills and responsibility you held. There were bad apples in every barrel though, including the f
k-wits that set fire to a Submarine Switchboard, but in general Artificers upheld their reputation as the guys to go to when all else and others had failed but you still needed something fixing. I still prefer to fix than replace hence me having one E24 for over 18 years - just this morning I had the dash apart to fix a short just a few days after having it out to fix the speedo.
The Services have changed over the years, I got out a grainy VHS to DVD movie of my passing out Parade and evn my wife mentioned how much sharper the Guard drill was than the one we had just watched in this Series. My day was ex-RN as well and loved wheeling out the line that when he joined the ships were made of wood and the men were made of steel, not like these days .......
Ex weapons tiff here 823 D195****I warched with quiet bemusement at how relaxed everthing was.
The fatty GI was an embarassment to all Service personnel everywhere. The rest of the instructors seemed ok considering the TV crew were in their faces a fair amount. The Chief who tried to save the telephone prat has been mentioned as being a little more realistic, perhaps because he was a Submariner where there was traditionally more emphasis on technical professionalism than outright discipline.
I had been aware the RN was very short of all kinds of engineers; perhaps this is partly due to their ending of the Artificer Training in 2010.
I joined in 1985 with well over 600 other potential Tiffs, one of three similar entries every year. We were streamed fairly equally into Air, Weapon and Marine engineering apprenticeships. Of the over 200 who started at Sultan just over 60 finished their apprenticeships at all with just seven of us finishing on time in late 1989 (IIRC).
The attrition rate was so high simply because the standards were so high; as someone else mentioned it was pretty much an exam a week for three and a half years, three fails a term and you get back-classed (put back into the class four months behind you to repeat the term again), more than two back-classes and unless there were exceptional circumstances you were out of a job and a career for good. There was absolutely no option to apply ever again and no option for re-streaming to another trade or branch, just a ticket home and hand in your card and uniform before you go.
Artificers were pretty much universally resented by other RN Branches because of the rapid techincal based promotions but these were the reward for the skills and responsibility you held. There were bad apples in every barrel though, including the f
k-wits that set fire to a Submarine Switchboard, but in general Artificers upheld their reputation as the guys to go to when all else and others had failed but you still needed something fixing. I still prefer to fix than replace hence me having one E24 for over 18 years - just this morning I had the dash apart to fix a short just a few days after having it out to fix the speedo.The Services have changed over the years, I got out a grainy VHS to DVD movie of my passing out Parade and evn my wife mentioned how much sharper the Guard drill was than the one we had just watched in this Series. My day was ex-RN as well and loved wheeling out the line that when he joined the ships were made of wood and the men were made of steel, not like these days .......
We had a similar loss rate. Hundreds of us joined up on the same day, as with you when we finished our training there were just a few full classes.
Like you I can turn my hand to just about anything.
hidetheelephants said:
AshVX220 said:
hidetheelephants said:
There was a series about Army phase 1 a couple of years ago.
Bugger, missed that one.Edited by hidetheelephants on Wednesday 23 March 19:43
AshVX220 said:
98elise said:
Ex weapons tiff here 823 D195****
We had a similar loss rate. Hundreds of us joined up on the same day, as with you when we finished our training there were just a few full classes.
Like you I can turn my hand to just about anything.
Particularly sleeping, right? We had a similar loss rate. Hundreds of us joined up on the same day, as with you when we finished our training there were just a few full classes.
Like you I can turn my hand to just about anything.
AshVX220 said:
98elise said:
Ex weapons tiff here 823 D195****
We had a similar loss rate. Hundreds of us joined up on the same day, as with you when we finished our training there were just a few full classes.
Like you I can turn my hand to just about anything.
Particularly sleeping, right? We had a similar loss rate. Hundreds of us joined up on the same day, as with you when we finished our training there were just a few full classes.
Like you I can turn my hand to just about anything.
For those that want to know a little more about what its like to be in the RN, this is is good read. Makes me wonder why i left
http://www.arrse.co.uk/community/threads/pull-up-a...
AshVX220 said:
thismonkeyhere said:
Though not to WAFU standards...
Indeed, no-one can sleep like a fking WAFU! 
ds....lolEx ME Mech......Acc 30.... D210####
skirk said:
I remember watching the Wooos loading all the spares and tools onto the Lynx to fly ashore at Bari to do a rotor head change......golf clubs and clicky beds went on first......loafing bds....lol
Ex ME Mech......Acc 30.... D210####
Ha-ha, indeed. What were you down there on? I did Gloucester '92 and Battleaxe '95 in the Adriatic.ds....lolEx ME Mech......Acc 30.... D210####
skirk said:
AshVX220 said:
thismonkeyhere said:
Though not to WAFU standards...
Indeed, no-one can sleep like a fking WAFU! ds....lolEx ME Mech......Acc 30.... D210####
AshVX220 said:
skirk said:
I remember watching the Wooos loading all the spares and tools onto the Lynx to fly ashore at Bari to do a rotor head change......golf clubs and clicky beds went on first......loafing bds....lol
Ex ME Mech......Acc 30.... D210####
Ha-ha, indeed. What were you down there on? I did Gloucester '92 and Battleaxe '95 in the Adriatic.ds....lolEx ME Mech......Acc 30.... D210####
Edited by skirk on Thursday 24th March 15:55
Edited by skirk on Thursday 24th March 15:56
skirk said:
AshVX220 said:
skirk said:
I remember watching the Wooos loading all the spares and tools onto the Lynx to fly ashore at Bari to do a rotor head change......golf clubs and clicky beds went on first......loafing bds....lol
Ex ME Mech......Acc 30.... D210####
Ha-ha, indeed. What were you down there on? I did Gloucester '92 and Battleaxe '95 in the Adriatic.ds....lolEx ME Mech......Acc 30.... D210####
Edited by skirk on Thursday 24th March 15:55
Edited by skirk on Thursday 24th March 15:56
Whys that !mikal83 said:
In my 24 yrs never ever knew or heard of a Wafu transferring to be a fishead. Loads going the other way tho Whys that !
It's happening now. A good friend of mine (we served together in MASU) has just been offered a very attractive sum to cross over to marine engineering. Whys that !Deerfoot said:
mikal83 said:
In my 24 yrs never ever knew or heard of a Wafu transferring to be a fishead. Loads going the other way tho Whys that !
It's happening now. A good friend of mine (we served together in MASU) has just been offered a very attractive sum to cross over to marine engineering. Whys that !Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff