The Night Manager? Anyone?

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Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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K12beano said:
Bluedot said:
I finally remembered last night who Roper's right hand man, the short guy with the real dark edge to him reminded me of:
Tom Hollander yes

What's more disconcerting is his best roles always seem to have been "The Blithering Idiot" - there's a fantastic feature length "Thick of It" about a dossier relating to going to war. He just cracks me up in that every time he's on screen!!
Not seen this yet, but TH plays a great baddie in Pirates of the Caribbean, and plays the mithered vicar in Rev.
He is an actor I admire.

p1stonhead

25,570 posts

168 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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K12beano said:
Bluedot said:
I finally remembered last night who Roper's right hand man, the short guy with the real dark edge to him reminded me of:
Tom Hollander yes

What's more disconcerting is his best roles always seem to have been "The Blithering Idiot" - there's a fantastic feature length "Thick of It" about a dossier relating to going to war. He just cracks me up in that every time he's on screen!!
He is quite menacing in Hanna. Good film too.



Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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I don't get why this will get him into Roper's trusted circle.

"you know what? I've wanted a new best mate for ages. Ideally a hotel worker/chef who's wanted by the police for petty theft and is also a failed drug dealer who gets beaten up so badly he has to spend weeks in my spare room"

And why did he murder the bearded man who brought him the passport?

Halmyre

11,214 posts

140 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Jimmy Recard said:
I don't get why this will get him into Roper's trusted circle.

"you know what? I've wanted a new best mate for ages. Ideally a hotel worker/chef who's wanted by the police for petty theft and is also a failed drug dealer who gets beaten up so badly he has to spend weeks in my spare room"

And why did he murder the bearded man who brought him the passport?
He didn't murder him (despite Beardie's joke about a proper funeral), just beat him up to make it look good.

I think Roper just wants him around to find out who he is and what he knows.

Mr_Yogi

3,279 posts

256 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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I really enjoyed both episodes so far. Sure if you analyse it to the nth degree you might find some holes, but there could well be details left out which explain things? Just sit back and enjoy it smile


"Rev" is great, I remember him in Ambassadors as Prince Andrew hehe

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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I started watching this yesterday. I have to admit, it is very good - a near-perfect thriller!

boyse7en

6,738 posts

166 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Jimmy Recard said:
I don't get why this will get him into Roper's trusted circle.

"you know what? I've wanted a new best mate for ages. Ideally a hotel worker/chef who's wanted by the police for petty theft and is also a failed drug dealer who gets beaten up so badly he has to spend weeks in my spare room"

And why did he murder the bearded man who brought him the passport?
I'm with you on the first part. Why would a billionaire arms dealer be interested in a petty thief hotel worker?

The second point. The idea is that beardy guy came back to murder him so that that identity "died" and he could go on to become Quince. I think. Actually, the more i think about it, the less sure I've become. It took Rev about 2 minutes to find out the three identities that he was using (one real, two false). Don't get why he needs the new identity at all if Roper et al know who is is anyway.


The Devon cottage he stayed at is not far from me, I go running along the coast path there occasionally. It is as remote as it looks. You certainly would have to be keen to cycle there for a shag smile

Bluedot

3,596 posts

108 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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boyse7en said:
I'm with you on the first part. Why would a billionaire arms dealer be interested in a petty thief hotel worker?
I think because of the huge coincidence of him meeting at the hotel and then randomly appearing to 'save' his kid 4 years later.
What's that saying - "Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer" ?

hedgefinder

3,418 posts

171 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Excellent first episode but I'm afraid the massive jump from reality/realism in the second episode spoilt it for me. Trying to be too clever (I did say trying as it really wasnt all that clever) in getting him to being on the inside just didnt work for me, very much a leap too far.

vxr8mate

1,655 posts

190 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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He did say he liked him when he met him outside at the hotel: 'Most men would have thrown that cigarette when a paying customer walked up' I think he said. Then meeting him again after he saved his kid would be enough to at least stoke some curiosity.

If Roper gives him the keys to his castle then yes, that's a step too far, but Roper may see him as desperate now he's on the run from the law and that could make him an asset.

The next episode could make or break this show.

Antony Moxey

8,090 posts

220 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Enjoying it so far despite it jumping all over the place making it confusing at times to work out what's going on. Did think the Devon bit weak though - follows some lad he'd caught shagging in his cottage to discover him buying drugs so gets all badass on the drug dealer and that's enough to make him look like a player? In the middle of nowhere? I was half expecting PC Penhale from Doc Martin to appear.

Rest of it's been OK though, just thought that section poor and not up to the standard of the rest of it so far.

RichB

51,604 posts

285 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Antony Moxey said:
...half expecting PC Penhale from Doc Martin to appear..
biglaugh

The Don of Croy

6,002 posts

160 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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If nothing else it's a damn good travelogue - I want to visit Zermatt, Mallorca and Devon (again) asap!

Does anyone else 'do' insouciance as well as Tom Hollander at the moment? Great to watch.

Trevatanus

11,125 posts

151 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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Halmyre said:
Jimmy Recard said:
I don't get why this will get him into Roper's trusted circle.

"you know what? I've wanted a new best mate for ages. Ideally a hotel worker/chef who's wanted by the police for petty theft and is also a failed drug dealer who gets beaten up so badly he has to spend weeks in my spare room"

And why did he murder the bearded man who brought him the passport?
He didn't murder him (despite Beardie's joke about a proper funeral), just beat him up to make it look good.

I think Roper just wants him around to find out who he is and what he knows.
I thought the "official" story was that he DID kill him, to add weight to the story?

V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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Trevatanus said:
Halmyre said:
Jimmy Recard said:
I don't get why this will get him into Roper's trusted circle.

"you know what? I've wanted a new best mate for ages. Ideally a hotel worker/chef who's wanted by the police for petty theft and is also a failed drug dealer who gets beaten up so badly he has to spend weeks in my spare room"

And why did he murder the bearded man who brought him the passport?
He didn't murder him (despite Beardie's joke about a proper funeral), just beat him up to make it look good.

I think Roper just wants him around to find out who he is and what he knows.
I thought the "official" story was that he DID kill him, to add weight to the story?
Exactly. That's why an international arrest warrant for murder was issued by UK security services.

RichB

51,604 posts

285 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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There's clearly people on this thread who have read the book (I have not yet) so can I ask that you don't give away the plot by posting spoilers. smile

boyse7en

6,738 posts

166 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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The Don of Croy said:
If nothing else it's a damn good travelogue - I want to visit Zermatt, Mallorca and Devon (again) asap!

Does anyone else 'do' insouciance as well as Tom Hollander at the moment? Great to watch.
You can rent the Devon House off of Lady Stucley.
It remote though, even by Devon standards.
But the scenery along that bit of the coast is just stunning.


marcosgt

11,021 posts

177 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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Really? People are finding some nits to pick here as it seems pretty straightforward (and credible, as far the programme running time permits) to me.

Roper liked him in Zermatt (Cigarette scene) and is now grateful to him for saving his son, but still wary of him and his true intentions.

The multiple identities are to lend him an air of credibility of someone living outside the law, rather than the upright, law abiding character we saw in the first episode. The 'murder' is obviously to remain unsolved (because it never happened, one presumes) but again lends him the air of someone who isn't phased by 'dirty deeds' as is the theft.

Not as good a second episode, but still very good, imo.

M

PS I haven't read the book, so no spoilers (aside from anything gleaned from the programme) here.

Edited by marcosgt on Wednesday 2nd March 08:57

iandc

3,718 posts

207 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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RichB said:
There's clearly people on this thread who have read the book (I have not yet) so can I ask that you don't give away the plot by posting spoilers. smile
It was Colonel Mustard in the drawing room with the candlestick so no need to watch until the end now.

RichB

51,604 posts

285 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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iandc said:
RichB said:
There's clearly people on this thread who have read the book (I have not yet) so can I ask that you don't give away the plot by posting spoilers. smile
It was Colonel Mustard in the drawing room with the candlestick so no need to watch until the end now.
Thank you, I'll read the book now smile