Wheeler dealers 2016.
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The Ruch brothers liked them, they raced them in the DTM in the 90s. https://youtu.be/sUa8PILWtwU?t=166
They were always at the back.
They were always at the back.
Edited by FourWheelDrift on Wednesday 1st June 12:07
Something isn't right. Far too much superfluous character building and story telling creeping in. Shame. The entertainment part of the show has always been nonsense but accepted long ago as the WD format and traditionally it never ventured further than...
So all very predictable and probably ready for a freshen up but why do they think we want different variations of the same WD format with added character development? Now I don't have the hatred for Mike Brewer as some but the lure of the show has always been primarily to see Ed working on cars. I'm half expecting things to develop as far as an actual fleshed out storyline for Ed leaving and handing over the baton or perhaps a dramatised falling out with Mike because he's pushed Ed too far this time (Ed seems to be playing the role of disgruntled mechanic this season). I wouldn't put it past them to create a kind of Mike (cos I can spanner too) vs Ed spin off or something daft.
- Mike (with his insider knowledge of the industry) making a deal with some leftover potential for profit.
- Ed is either excited or mildly annoyed by Mike's purchase with the usual "need to keep the cost down Ed with the oily bits but I'll make you a cuppa as you do work hard" banter.
- Half way through Mike pays Ed a visit and to his bemusement the car isn't finished. Despite Ed always coming through "what have you done Ed! it looks worse than before cor blimey, guv'nor!". Ed does his bit recapping and Mike is convinced it's all ok. Mike then needs to go get some parts "presents for Ed" or the wheels, seats etc need outsourcing for refurbishment.
- It all works out in the end with a quick road trip where everything feels and looks factory fresh to Mike as if he had just taken delivery from a dealership in 1970. Mike then does his final sit on the bonnet and "hold out yer hand" honest deal with the punter. This concludes in a profit for him and the big man or a loss which doesn't matter because it's all for the love of cars anyway.
So all very predictable and probably ready for a freshen up but why do they think we want different variations of the same WD format with added character development? Now I don't have the hatred for Mike Brewer as some but the lure of the show has always been primarily to see Ed working on cars. I'm half expecting things to develop as far as an actual fleshed out storyline for Ed leaving and handing over the baton or perhaps a dramatised falling out with Mike because he's pushed Ed too far this time (Ed seems to be playing the role of disgruntled mechanic this season). I wouldn't put it past them to create a kind of Mike (cos I can spanner too) vs Ed spin off or something daft.
Rob192 said:
The entertainment part of the show has always been nonsense but accepted long ago as the WD format and traditionally it never ventured further than...
- Mike (with his insider knowledge of the industry) making a deal with some leftover potential for profit.
- Ed is either excited or mildly annoyed by Mike's purchase with the usual "need to keep the cost down Ed with the oily bits but I'll make you a cuppa as you do work hard" banter.
- Half way through Mike pays Ed a visit and to his bemusement the car isn't finished. Despite Ed always coming through "what have you done Ed! it looks worse than before cor blimey, guv'nor!". Ed does his bit recapping and Mike is convinced it's all ok. Mike then needs to go get some parts "presents for Ed" or the wheels, seats etc need outsourcing for refurbishment.
- It all works out in the end with a quick road trip where everything feels and looks factory fresh to Mike as if he had just taken delivery from a dealership in 1970. Mike then does his final sit on the bonnet and "hold out yer hand" honest deal with the punter. This concludes in a profit for him and the big man or a loss which doesn't matter because it's all for the love of cars anyway.
This is so accurate. 
ClockworkCupcake said:
Rob192 said:
The entertainment part of the show has always been nonsense but accepted long ago as the WD format and traditionally it never ventured further than...
- Mike (with his insider knowledge of the industry) making a deal with some leftover potential for profit.
- Ed is either excited or mildly annoyed by Mike's purchase with the usual "need to keep the cost down Ed with the oily bits but I'll make you a cuppa as you do work hard" banter.
- Half way through Mike pays Ed a visit and to his bemusement the car isn't finished. Despite Ed always coming through "what have you done Ed! it looks worse than before cor blimey, guv'nor!". Ed does his bit recapping and Mike is convinced it's all ok. Mike then needs to go get some parts "presents for Ed" or the wheels, seats etc need outsourcing for refurbishment.
- It all works out inc the end with a quick road trip where everything feels and looks factory fresh to Mike as if he had just taken delivery from a dealership in 1970. Mike then does his final sit on the bonnet and "hold out yer hand" honest deal with the punter. This concludes in a profit for him and the big man or a loss which doesn't matter because it's all for the love of cars anyway.
This is so accurate. 
I am normally an auld crabbit, impatient intolerant bloke that doesn't like change.
However, I thought seeing Mike on the tools wasn't too bad. Even slightly amusing when he took the mick out of Ed's hair.
Bear in mind that Mike & Ed probably aren't going to be able to put an order in for a LaFerrari or a McLaren P1 with what they'll earn out of a series of WD. The production company (attaboy in the UK, dunno for the US version) are probably very budget-conscious too, and if Ed is suddenly unable to film at very short notice then what are they supposed to do? Continue to pay the film crew and location costs etc while they wait on him to become available again? This isn't Hollywood blockbuster movie budgets.
Ed could have had to return to the UK due to a family illness. Or perhaps he was ill or injured himself. Whatever the reason I am sure they would rather Ed does the spannering and Mike does the dealing. It was only minor spannering (removing a bumper, removing the bed etc then APPEARING to straighten out some metal - Ed did the main body bits) and they had Phil on hand in the background to supervise and advise Mike accordingly.
I do, however, agree that recent episodes have been poor compared to earlier UK ones. The hypermiler stuff during the Honda CVCC one was crap, selling the truck to the distillery mob was crap, fitting the daft gadgets to the CVCC was crap. Mike spannering isn't the problem, its the choice of vehicles, what work is done to them and other superfluous content.
However, I thought seeing Mike on the tools wasn't too bad. Even slightly amusing when he took the mick out of Ed's hair.
Bear in mind that Mike & Ed probably aren't going to be able to put an order in for a LaFerrari or a McLaren P1 with what they'll earn out of a series of WD. The production company (attaboy in the UK, dunno for the US version) are probably very budget-conscious too, and if Ed is suddenly unable to film at very short notice then what are they supposed to do? Continue to pay the film crew and location costs etc while they wait on him to become available again? This isn't Hollywood blockbuster movie budgets.
Ed could have had to return to the UK due to a family illness. Or perhaps he was ill or injured himself. Whatever the reason I am sure they would rather Ed does the spannering and Mike does the dealing. It was only minor spannering (removing a bumper, removing the bed etc then APPEARING to straighten out some metal - Ed did the main body bits) and they had Phil on hand in the background to supervise and advise Mike accordingly.
I do, however, agree that recent episodes have been poor compared to earlier UK ones. The hypermiler stuff during the Honda CVCC one was crap, selling the truck to the distillery mob was crap, fitting the daft gadgets to the CVCC was crap. Mike spannering isn't the problem, its the choice of vehicles, what work is done to them and other superfluous content.
Doofus said:
ClockworkCupcake said:
Rob192 said:
The entertainment part of the show has always been nonsense but accepted long ago as the WD format and traditionally it never ventured further than...
- Mike (with his insider knowledge of the industry) making a deal with some leftover potential for profit.
- Ed is either excited or mildly annoyed by Mike's purchase with the usual "need to keep the cost down Ed with the oily bits but I'll make you a cuppa as you do work hard" banter.
- Half way through Mike pays Ed a visit and to his bemusement the car isn't finished. Despite Ed always coming through "what have you done Ed! it looks worse than before cor blimey, guv'nor!". Ed does his bit recapping and Mike is convinced it's all ok. Mike then needs to go get some parts "presents for Ed" or the wheels, seats etc need outsourcing for refurbishment.
- It all works out inc the end with a quick road trip where everything feels and looks factory fresh to Mike as if he had just taken delivery from a dealership in 1970. Mike then does his final sit on the bonnet and "hold out yer hand" honest deal with the punter. This concludes in a profit for him and the big man or a loss which doesn't matter because it's all for the love of cars anyway.
This is so accurate. There are garages up and down the country with unfinished (and probably never to be finished) projects sitting in them collecting dust because they turned out to be somewhat more than the original two-weekends worth of work that the owner originally estimated when they bought it.
At least WD gives an indication of what you might be letting yourself in for, approximate cost and how much of a PITA some of the jobs can be so you may have to pay someone to do it for you.
Ed does seem to have every tool and gadget known to man plus a second pair of hands on 24-hour stand by in the shape of 'Paul' so that needs to be factored in as well.
It's also a good general DIY guide as although all cars are a bit different in design and build they are not that different - e.g. discs and callipers tend to be much the same and when you've seen one the others are much the same
That said I do like the earlier episodes as they have done an interesting range of vehicles - even the left-field stuff like the Mini-Moke and Bond Bug.
sandman77 said:
Smollet said:
Next week it's a 1988 Mustang. A real motoring icon 
Am I the only one who likes fox body Mustangs?
Edited by gowmonster on Sunday 5th June 09:38
Rob192 said:
Something isn't right. Far too much superfluous character building and story telling creeping in. Shame. The entertainment part of the show has always been nonsense but accepted long ago as the WD format and traditionally it never ventured further than...
So all very predictable and probably ready for a freshen up but why do they think we want different variations of the same WD format with added character development? Now I don't have the hatred for Mike Brewer as some but the lure of the show has always been primarily to see Ed working on cars. I'm half expecting things to develop as far as an actual fleshed out storyline for Ed leaving and handing over the baton or perhaps a dramatised falling out with Mike because he's pushed Ed too far this time (Ed seems to be playing the role of disgruntled mechanic this season). I wouldn't put it past them to create a kind of Mike (cos I can spanner too) vs Ed spin off or something daft.
With this in mind, my mates and I made our own version a couple of years ago when we were at the vauxhall Billing show. I played Ed Porcelain and my mate was Mike Distiller. We were undoubtedly hilarious, because we posted the link to Mike Brewer and he gave us a thumbs up and 'I'd watch them!' Comment- Mike (with his insider knowledge of the industry) making a deal with some leftover potential for profit.
- Ed is either excited or mildly annoyed by Mike's purchase with the usual "need to keep the cost down Ed with the oily bits but I'll make you a cuppa as you do work hard" banter.
- Half way through Mike pays Ed a visit and to his bemusement the car isn't finished. Despite Ed always coming through "what have you done Ed! it looks worse than before cor blimey, guv'nor!". Ed does his bit recapping and Mike is convinced it's all ok. Mike then needs to go get some parts "presents for Ed" or the wheels, seats etc need outsourcing for refurbishment.
- It all works out in the end with a quick road trip where everything feels and looks factory fresh to Mike as if he had just taken delivery from a dealership in 1970. Mike then does his final sit on the bonnet and "hold out yer hand" honest deal with the punter. This concludes in a profit for him and the big man or a loss which doesn't matter because it's all for the love of cars anyway.
So all very predictable and probably ready for a freshen up but why do they think we want different variations of the same WD format with added character development? Now I don't have the hatred for Mike Brewer as some but the lure of the show has always been primarily to see Ed working on cars. I'm half expecting things to develop as far as an actual fleshed out storyline for Ed leaving and handing over the baton or perhaps a dramatised falling out with Mike because he's pushed Ed too far this time (Ed seems to be playing the role of disgruntled mechanic this season). I wouldn't put it past them to create a kind of Mike (cos I can spanner too) vs Ed spin off or something daft.
sandman77 said:
Am I the only one who likes fox body Mustangs?
Yes godawful things, ugly and underpowered Just watched the Luv truck episode, as usual looking for pearl (Edd repairing oil leaks and interesting look at dent fixers) amongst swine (Mike in workshop, Mike having dumbass conversations at parts shop, Mike adding needless s
t to the car coz he think it's hipster, Mike doing pointless tasks to sell car).It's just about worth it with much use of fast forward
Edited by Adam B on Sunday 5th June 15:15
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