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[monthefish]

Adam B said:

sandman77 said:

Am I the only one who likes fox body Mustangs?

Yes godawful things, ugly and underpowered

225bhp from a 5.0 V8.

[r11co]

monthefish said:

225bhp from a 5.0 V8.

With the potential to double that for not much outlay. Plus, a CLK Mercedes with a 5.0 V8 was only breaking 300BHP 15 years later.

Edited by r11co on Thursday 16th June 19:24

[Crafty_]

Faust66 said:

Thought the air con install section was a bit weak - I'd have loved to have seen a bit more info about it as I have considered such an upgrade for my Amazon, but given the amount of time you really need it in this country, it hardly seems worth it for the expense and hassle… unless my six numbers match one week.

I can understand why they installed the unit in front of the passenger seat: the PV has a very, very long gearstick (about a meter in length and I'm not joking). Brewer/China did mention clearance issues during the show to be fair to them.

They picked a system really meant for an old truck or full size car, not exactly discreet, vintage air sell some small units, or even ones that fit in the boot (sorry, trunk..) http://www.vintageair.com/2015%20Catalog/2015%20Vi...

[ooo000ooo]

gazzarose said:

I've been enjoying the series, if only because its a welcome break from all the 'reality' shows the wife watches. Ed has been acting a bit wierd and it does seem a bit strange Mike doing things. I'm wondering if Ed has got a secret project that is going to revealed later in the series. He was working on a V8 at the start of last nights episode, which unless they've actually opened a 'shop' in Cali and it was a customers engine, so its either just acting or its for a different project. Also in the first episode I think it was, as Mike walks into the workshop Ed disappears with no real explanation carrying a box of bits so possibly for a secret project? But maybe I just like conspiracy theories?

.

Also the Geiger counter last week? Are they building an electric car powered by a diy nuclear reactor made from a V8?

[ClockworkCupcake]

ooo000ooo said:

Also the Geiger counter last week? Are they building an electric car powered by a diy nuclear reactor made from a V8?

Could be a Mad Max car.

[monthefish]

r11co said:

monthefish said:

225bhp from a 5.0 V8.

With the potential to double that for not much outlay.

The WD boys released 30bhp for $1500 (not inlcuding labour). Including labour would be at least $2000.

Pro rata, to double the power would be $15,000.......but pro-rata doesn't work with tuning, and the law of diminishing returns applies, so in reality to double the power would cost A LOT more.

[LuS1fer]

monthefish said:

225bhp from a 5.0 V8.

Par for the time

300lb ft of torque @ 3200rpm
0-60 in 6.7 seconds
0-100 in 18.8 seconds
Top speed 148mph

Sierra Cosworth RS500
224bhp
0-60 6.1 seconds
0-100 16.2
Top Speed 154mph

[ClockworkCupcake]

monthefish said:

225bhp from a 5.0 V8.

The 5L Rover V8 in the TVR Griffith 500 and Chimaera 500, which was heavily reworked by TVR Power with most of the tuning tricks in the book, made around 260bhp in the 1990s (although TVR claimed 340bhp but that was frankly donkey poop). So it's not as laughable as you make out. Especially as a Federalised USA engine would have had to contend with far more stringent emissions regulations.

Edited by ClockworkCupcake on Friday 17th June 17:36

[sandman77]

monthefish said:

225bhp from a 5.0 V8.

Agreed, it seems like a pitiful amount for a 5.0 V8 but it has the same power as an escort cosworth (which was availability at the same time as this mustang) and not many people complained that they were underpowered.

[r11co]

monthefish said:

The WD boys released 30bhp for $1500 (not inlcuding labour). Including labour would be at least $2000.

Pro rata, to double the power would be $15,000.......but pro-rata doesn't work with tuning, and the law of diminishing returns applies, so in reality to double the power would cost A LOT more.

Not if you supercharge. Forced induction doesn't play by those rules. The engine is understressed and can handle a lot more boost that most of the time.

[LuS1fer]

r11co said:

monthefish said:

The WD boys released 30bhp for $1500 (not inlcuding labour). Including labour would be at least $2000.

Pro rata, to double the power would be $15,000.......but pro-rata doesn't work with tuning, and the law of diminishing returns applies, so in reality to double the power would cost A LOT more.

Not if you supercharge. Forced induction doesn't play by those rules. The engine is understressed and can handle a lot more boost that most of the time.

About 345 hp for cheap as chips prices although a suspension and brake upgrade would probably be needed.
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/page.php?id=30...

[DoctorX]

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory again. Looks st with that sanding job.

[Dr Doofenshmirtz]

What a shame - rat look just makes it look awful.

[greygoose]

An interesting idea but the end result just looked rubbish with that finish.

[sandman77]

Get rid of the solar panel, the water filter and pump system then paint it properly and you would have a very nice land rover there.

[tedman]

Not too bad and interesting ideas, but I fell asleep about 3/4 of the way through...

[rohrl]

And yet again Edd's st taste ruins a car.

Will they ever learn?

[chris watton]

Almost a great project, only for Ed, as usual when left to his own thoughts on finishing, to ruin it at the last hurdle. Just, why!

I must admit, as much as I love WD, I am finding this latest series very heavy going. I hope the UK part of the season is better.

[ClockworkCupcake]

chris watton said:

Almost a great project, only for Ed, as usual when left to his own thoughts on finishing, to ruin it at the last hurdle. Just, why!

Do you honestly believe that Edd has full editorial control of the programme and that they just point a few cameras at him, bung him some dosh, and let him get on with it?

[Adam B]

LuS1fer said:

monthefish said:

225bhp from a 5.0 V8.

Par for the time

Sierra Cosworth RS500
224bhp
0-60 6.1 seconds
0-100 16.2
Top Speed 154mph

surely the point is getting 225bhp from a 5.0L V8 is laughably inefficient, as you clearly demonstrate with your example of a European car which achieves the similar outputs and better perfromance from a 2.0L 4 cylinder