Motors tv. Where has it gone?

[marshalla]

r11co said:

marshalla said:

It's no longer a broadcast channel - they've closed the channel 71 broadcast (but left the EPG data in place - bds!) and left the channel 240 streaming service which requires a stream-capable decoder with an Internet connection.

It was never a broadcast channel on Freeview. It was internet streamed from day 1 of launch.

And then they took over a bit of the HD bandwidth and offered a SD version of it via a HD mux - on channel 71.

http://www.a516digital.com/2014/10/motors-tv-widen...

and now they've closed that down, losing all the viewers who could receive the broadcast but not the stream.

(awaits pedantic response that that still means it wasn't on Freeview, but Freeview HD

[Paul_M3]

r11co said:

marshalla said:

It's no longer a broadcast channel - they've closed the channel 71 broadcast (but left the EPG data in place - bds!) and left the channel 240 streaming service which requires a stream-capable decoder with an Internet connection.

It was never a broadcast channel on Freeview. It was internet streamed from day 1 of launch.

Paul_M3 said:

So in essence I was correct when I said it had also been removed from Freeview then?

No.

So it wasn't on Channel 71 if you had a Freeview HD box/TV then? Everyone has just imagined that have they?

Ok, it was only Freeview HD tuners, but that's not streaming and it's not Sky.

[Magic919]

It was an odd set-up as they used DVB-T2 for an SD channel. Meant that an HD Freeview box was required, in effect.

There are plenty of USB and PCI or PCI-E cards that will pick it up now. You could record from those if you really wanted to.

[r11co]

Paul_M3 said:

Ok, it was only Freeview HD tuners, but that's not streaming and it's not Sky.

It irritates me how so many people accredit channels that have nothing to with Sky to them just because the satellite receiver they paid seriously over the odds for is built to a Sky design, and they also happen to pay money to Sky TV to provide them with a load of encrypted channels - one of which isn't Motors TV. Clearly it irritated the owners of Motors TV too.

Sky satellite broadcasting has been operating against the Conditional Access rules of European broadcasting since day 1 of their digital transmissions, but many attempts to tackle them over it failed (for all sorts of underhand reasons) and now hardly anyone bothers to take a stand against it, so credit to Motors TV for raising the issue once more.

PS. The Freeview HD broadcast channel for Motors TV was only available in a few transmission areas and was not officially part of the national Freeview network (meaning most of the country couldn't actually receive it that way) hence its withdrawal without warning. The official distribution method for the nation was the streaming service.

There is loads of cheap, easy to use equipment capable of receiving, recording and distributing Motors TV and other FTA satellite channels around your home. It just doesn't come supplied by Sky. Sky is not the beginning and end of satellite TV.

Edited by r11co on Friday 26th February 17:29

[marshalla]

r11co said:

PS. The Freeview HD broadcast channel for Motors TV was only available in a few transmission areas and was not officially part of the national Freeview network, hence its withdrawal without warning. The official distribution method for the nation was the streaming service.

Yet Freeview continue to promote it as one of their channels : http://www.freeview.co.uk/whats-on/channels/catego...

[r11co]

marshalla said:

Yet Freeview continue to promote it as one of their channels : http://www.freeview.co.uk/whats-on/channels/catego...

They are slow at updating their website.

A lot of the major Freeview transmitters never ever carried the broadcast signal.

Edited by r11co on Friday 26th February 17:34

[Paul_M3]

r11co said:

Paul_M3 said:

Ok, it was only Freeview HD tuners, but that's not streaming and it's not Sky.

It irritates me how so many people accredit channels that have nothing to with Sky ...blah blah

Nobody is accrediting channels to Sky at all. Who on earth said they were?

My very simple point was that you said it was only ever available as a Stream. That was clearly incorrect, as Freeview were keen on promoting it as one of their channels. (Even if not every single person in the country could get it)

[blueST]

Motors seemed to have been trying to operate a free to air model, why didn't/don't they just offer on line stream from their website?

[r11co]

Paul_M3 said:

My very simple point was that you said it was only ever available as a Stream. That was clearly incorrect, as Freeview were keen on promoting it as one of their channels. (Even if not every single person in the country could get it)

For the majority of the country it was only ever available as a stream.

Paul_M3 said:

So in essence I was correct when I said it had also been removed from Freeview then?

The answer is still no.

[Ex X Power]

So how can I record motors now? Im obviously going to see if the situation resolves but if not I want to be able to record the coverage

Yes, Sky isnt the be all and end all but its convinient, ie Plug and play.... I havent the faintest idea how I would go about recording the channel now.....

[FourWheelDrift]

Ex X Power said:

So how can I record motors now? Im obviously going to see if the situation resolves but if not I want to be able to record the coverage

Yes, Sky isnt the be all and end all but its convinient, ie Plug and play.... I havent the faintest idea how I would go about recording the channel now.....

Add it as an extra channel and manual record.

MagicBoyUK said:

For the moment it can be added manually via the Services, Options, Add Channels menu with the following details : 11.082 H, 22.000, 5/6, DVB-S, QPSK.

[Ex X Power]

Thanks for that... but what about if Im not in the house.. ie programing to record as it were

[FourWheelDrift]

Don't think it can't be done because it adds the channel to the "other channels" section in services and it has no channel number.

[zebedee]

MagicBoyUK said:

First Freeview channel 71, now this. At the risk of 2+2=5 I get the feeling they might not be paying on time...

For the moment it can be added manually via the Services, Options, Add Channels menu with the following details : 11.082 H, 22.000, 5/6, DVB-S, QPSK.

How do you change the first number 11.082

[FredericRobinson]

Type in with the number buttons

[cailean]

Also can't get the TV guide when its added manually, that I can see.

So who can actually watch it, apart from Virgin cable people without having to rig up some contraption?

I have a 1.5 year old HD Sony TV and can't see how to get Freeview HD thingy on it...

Oh blah

[Roo]

Well I'm one of the people who used to watch it on freeview and now can't, which is a bit of a pain.

[dursleyman]

Read all the stuff above and tried to manually add the channel on Sky but that doesn't work either. Luckily I have an old BT Youview HD box from an old subscription and have managed to get it to work on that.

Go to channel 240, wait for the RED button to appear and then when you press it you get a streamed version via your broadband connection - BUT you can no longer record it and I don't know how to get a programme guide.

[MagicBoyUK]

Having manually updated the firmware on my TV, Channel 240 is now working for me.

Also managed to find a way to record it. Old school DVD/HDD recorder linked up via SCART with Q-Link. Set the recording via the Freeview EPG on the TV - TV streams it while in standby, wakes up the recorder and sends it down the SCART cable. Used it record the BSR programme this afternoon.

[Paul_M3]

r11co said:

Paul_M3 said:

My very simple point was that you said it was only ever available as a Stream. That was clearly incorrect, as Freeview were keen on promoting it as one of their channels. (Even if not every single person in the country could get it)

For the majority of the country it was only ever available as a stream.

Paul_M3 said:

So in essence I was correct when I said it had also been removed from Freeview then?

The answer is still no.

I think your intense hatred of Sky TV has impaired your ability to perform rational thought.

You've even contradicted yourself in your own post. If you state that for the majority of the country it was only available as a stream, by definition you are stating that it was available for a huge number of people as a freeview channel. This freeview channel has now been removed.

It was actually available to anyone who could receive 5* (now called 5 STAR). If somebody says that 5* is available as a Freeview channel, would you argue that it wasn't???

You only have to Google "Motors TV Freeview" to get a huge amount of hits confirming it as a Freeview channel which ceased on 1st February 2016. (Including their own Twitter feed with people complaining and asking where it had gone). There are even people on this thread who are annoyed they've lost their Freeview access.

To be honest, I can't really understand how you could possibly be arguing otherwise.